Transmute items to chars that can't use them

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Posted by: Issun.6498

Issun.6498

Im reporting this as a bug since it clearly cant be intended.

If you accidently transmute 2 Items on the wrong character, like in my case a crafted zojja longbow by and engineer and a fractal long bow, you end up with a soulbound longbow even if your current class cannot use it -.-

Unlike when you soulbind an item there is no additional checkbox for soulbinding or a note that your class cannot use the item!

My advice is to make it impossible for a class to soulbind armor or weapons that it cannot use. Further i sugest that the combined item is only soulbound when one of he used items was soulbound. These changes give players no advantages in the handling of souldbond items but make it actually harder to screw up.

In my case the bow now serves as a personal reminder of what poor game design can do until i get into the mood to craft another bow.

If you ask the customer support they will tell you that they cannot unbind items, but like in my case may offer you to replace at least 1 of the transmuted items. So in the end i kept the fractal skin and thus lost only a newly crafted zojja bow … with a few misclicks.

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Posted by: Zeivu.3615

Zeivu.3615

So, you want them to try idiot-proof this? It’s not a glitch and is working as intended.
Maybe it’s because I have had access to HOM from the beginning and know how transmutation works, but I have never had an idea to transmute an item on a toon that it wasn’t intended for. Buy a splitter and learn from your mistakes.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

It pretty much is already ‘idiot-proof’ as it clearly states “Transmuting an item will make it soulbound” on every window whilst transmuting.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Transmutation_Stone_Example.jpg

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Posted by: Zeivu.3615

Zeivu.3615

People who can read typically aren’t idiots. So, no, it isn’t. :p

It pretty much is already ‘idiot-proof’ as it clearly states “Transmuting an item will make it soulbound” on every window whilst transmuting.

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/File:Transmutation_Stone_Example.jpg

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Posted by: Issun.6498

Issun.6498

Well i tranmuted a lot of items and in most cases one of the used items is already soulbound .. so no chance to fail here. However once trasmuting items gets common for you one tends to ignore the rather small red notice in the the transmutation window .. and that what happend to me…

Also Zeivu a splitter will give you 2 soulbound items so it does not realy help at all.

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Posted by: ExTribble.7108

ExTribble.7108

No guarantee this will work , but I’m thinking you can work around this with 2 splitters and a 3 Transmutation Crystals:

1) Use the first splitter on the current transmuted weapon, you should get a fractal longbow skin, and the ascended longbow (both soulbound)
2) Use a Transmutation crystal to put white stats onto the ascended longbow (keep the ascended item’s skin) to make it account bound.
3) Transfer to the desired character, and use the second splitter to get the ascended longbow (with the correct ascended stats) back. It will now be soulbound to the correct character.
4) The skin should come back as an item without stats, needing a transmute, so use a Transmutation Crystal to put white stats on it. Transfer it over to the desired char since it will now be account bound.
5) Use one more Transmutation Crystal to merge the fractal skin on the white item with the ascended stats of the other weapon.

I haven’t personally used the splitters to retrieve pure skins like the fractal ones, but if the wiki’s description of it is right (and if I interpreted it right), this should work. It’s similar to how you transfer legendaries between characters. Again, no guarantees.

As others stated, there’s that fancy warning message saying it’ll be soulbound when you transmute, so I doubt support would bail you out at their own expense when you were warned. Building redundancy upon redundancy with added checkboxes and messages just annoys the heck out of the people who take note of the warnings and don’t faceplant rushing through menus. They’re there for a reason.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

I used a splitter on a mace that was the Dragon Jade skin put onto a Guild mace. Both stayed soulbound, but I was able to transmute the skin onto a white and turn it account bound. So, it does work (or at least did when I did it).

But yeah, the warning message is there. Not really anyone’s fault but the user.

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Posted by: Issun.6498

Issun.6498

As far as i see it there is no way to move an acended stats item to another character. Yes you can move the skin with a transmutation stone but that still does not give me my acended bow back. Maybe the next patch will resolve the issure till then ill keep the bow.

Still the question stands why not prevent users to transmute items that their class cannot use. From a developers perspective you have to be aware that some people like me will occational (or hopefully exactly once) will screw things up.
These people are definatly not happy and will call the support witch means more work for you Anet!

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Posted by: ExTribble.7108

ExTribble.7108

As far as i see it there is no way to move an acended stats item to another character. Yes you can move the skin with a transmutation stone but that still does not give me my acended bow back. Maybe the next patch will resolve the issure till then ill keep the bow.

Reread step 3 on my last post. The transmutation splitter will give back the original items used for the current skin and stats. With my example you’d get the ascended longbow (used for the skin during transmute) back with its stats and a trash longbow (used for stats) which you can just trash.

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Posted by: Equilibriator.8741

Equilibriator.8741

or now you can just wait for ascended egar to become account bound and you will probably be able to transfer it. assuming ascended transmuted gear is still tradeable wit the April 15th patch

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Posted by: Brother Grimm.5176

Brother Grimm.5176

People who can read typically aren’t idiots. So, no, it isn’t. :p

The irony of this statement just drips off the words and runs down my monitor…..effin’ AWESOMENESS!!!

Seriously, the warning is there in whatever language you have chosen to display. Ignoring the warnings is a USER error. I’m still in awe of how this could actually happen….is the OP stating he did not realize he was logged in as the wrong character or that he was unaware what weapons are usable by what class? In either case, this is not an actual game bug and should not be discussed as if ANet needs to fix something in their code. If you think they should add something additional to protect the not-so-bright, that’s another discussion.

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Fate is just the weight of circumstances
That’s the way that lady luck dances

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

Bug or not, it’s moot now. On the 15th, the OP will be able to apply the fractal skin to whatever weapon (of the same type) that they choose.

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