Upgrading Hero's to Mistforged Hero's

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Posted by: Fatallion.5389

Fatallion.5389

Hello!

Is the mechanic of upgrading meant to be the way it works now? For example I bought 6 Hero’s weapons after first tournament because I wanted to get more of those Hero’s skins vs getting only two Mistforged skins. Now during/after this current tournament I would like to be able to upgrade few of the Hero’s skins to Mistforged skins but it requires me to have the original Hero’s weapons. Which I don’t have currently. Why? Back when I bought the Hero’s weapons I did it to unlock those skins (and I assume that everyone bought them for skins, not for the weapons itself). When I got them unlocked I salvaged the items, like I usually do with any skin that I unlock, because we have the wardrobe to move skins to equipped gear which are better statwise. I couldn’t have imagined that I would have to save those 6 useless items wasting space in bank or somewhere else, waiting the precious day when I happen to find more tournament tickets and finally be able to upgrade the item.

So is this intended? And does this mean that I (and others with same problem) can’t upgrade the Hero’s skins to Mistforged Hero’s skins anymore without wasting exessive tickets?

TL;DR Upgrading Hero’s weapons to Mistforged Hero’s weapons should have some better mechanic.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

In order to upgrade an item, you have to actually have the item to upgrade. The skin in your wardrobe isn’t the item. You’re kind of SOL, unless you want to request a rollback, which probably wouldn’t be the best decision here.

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Posted by: Fatallion.5389

Fatallion.5389

I am more trying to question the logic behind this. Everyone bought those weapons, either Mistforged or Hero, only to unlock the skins. I bet that nobody bought for example double daggers just because he runs d/d ele. He bought one dagger to unlock skin and transmuted it to both daggers through wardrobe. So why to have those items as actual weapons, why not a skin that unlocks and the vendor could sell trophy item or something that comes avalaible when you first unlock the skin, and that could go into forge when upgrading. Them being weapons is pointless to majority of people.

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

Not sure why you think/thought that way. Seemed pretty evident that to upgrade the weapon, you would actually need the weapon to upgrade. Pretty sure you will need to purchase the weapons again, if you want to upgrade them. It’s pretty easy to get tickets this tournament, so there’s that.

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Posted by: Illconceived Was Na.9781

Illconceived Was Na.9781

@Fatallion: it can’t hurt to make a request to support. I agree with Inculpatus that it was probably designed to require the actual Hero weapon.

However, things have changed since:

  • The skins were introduced as part of Spring Tournament 2014, which began in March 2014.
  • The wardrobe system was added 15 April 2014.

So, perhaps Customer Support will be sympathetic to your situation and help figure something out with you.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

If skins worked that way you could buy a Khrysaor and use it to make Sunrise …

As for rollback they have mentioned several times that they only provide those for compromised accounts.

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Posted by: Fatallion.5389

Fatallion.5389

@Fatallion: it can’t hurt to make a request to support. I agree with Inculpatus that it was probably designed to require the actual Hero weapon.

That’s true, they might have originally designed it to go that way, but with the wardrobe update, which still came before the first tickets were earned, there should have been some kind of modifications to it.

If skins worked that way you could buy a Khrysaor and use it to make Sunrise …

If I recall right I was only talking about hero’s and mistforged hero’s skins which are avalaible only from wvw tournaments and there are no duplicate skins that you could acquire from somewhere else. So this comment was …. yeah.

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Posted by: RoseofGilead.8907

RoseofGilead.8907

@Fatallion: it can’t hurt to make a request to support. I agree with Inculpatus that it was probably designed to require the actual Hero weapon.

However, things have changed since:

  • The skins were introduced as part of Spring Tournament 2014, which began in March 2014.
  • The wardrobe system was added 15 April 2014.

So, perhaps Customer Support will be sympathetic to your situation and help figure something out with you.

The rewards weren’t released until about a month after the wardrobe was put in. If Anet had intended for the Hero weapons to somehow act differently from every other weapon in the game, they probably would have changed it or addressed it by now.

I don’t see why (or how) they would make a Wardrobe-locked skin become able to be forged. For example: You can’t go into your Wardrobe, take out your Dawn skin, and then reforge it to make a new Sunrise legendary. Once you delete the item, it’s gone.

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Posted by: Fatallion.5389

Fatallion.5389

I don’t see why (or how) they would make a Wardrobe-locked skin become able to be forged. For example: You can’t go into your Wardrobe, take out your Dawn skin, and then reforge it to make a new Sunrise legendary. Once you delete the item, it’s gone.

I don’t get why you guys keep comparing precursor skins with these wvw exclusive skins. You can’t buy precursors from any vendor, you get them as rare drop from mystic forge or from mobs. These wvw skins doesn’t drop, you can’t sell them, you can’t buy them from TP, you only acquire them to yourself with tournament tickets, which happen to be pretty rare.

Regarding on latest feature patch Anet fixed many things that was confusing to new players. I think that the current way of upgrading these weapons is very confusing. If you want to do the upgrade (which is only making sense if you do it because you can’t buy mistforged weapon straight up) you are forced to keep the rare weapon(s) safe in somewhere wasting space, waiting months until you claim more tickets and upgrade it. Why not for example let the vendor sell you Hero’s skins which unlock to account wardrobe, then if you want to upgrade the preowned Hero’s skins to Mistforged ones, bring all the new stuff that is needed to npc and he’ll upgrade it. Why to even involve the mystic forge at all?

And just to remind you, after first tournament there was +3 months waiting before the current one started. Only reason why you bought Hero’s weapons instead of getting Mistforged Hero’s weapons straight, was that you either wanted more of those Hero’s skins OR you didn’t have enough tickets to claim Mistforged skins. There was 3 months waiting time before you could acquire more tickets and upgrade them. If you only think this situation with this new type of tournament where you get rewards every week it doesn’t seem that big of a problem. But after this tournament ends, there will again be a long long waiting (probably) before the next tournament kicks in. And that waiting time is mainly why I don’t see any good reason to keep the upgrading working as it currently is.

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Posted by: Tman.6349

Tman.6349

So you used tickets for Hero skins instead of Mistforged out of greed and now you like them to accommodate you by undoing your mistake so you can make them all Mistforged anyway b/c shortcuts and ‘I didn’t know’?

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Posted by: Inculpatus cedo.9234

Inculpatus cedo.9234

The Devs may take your suggestion (not a bug) under advisement, and implement it some day. In the meantime, as stated, you will need to purchase any weapons you wish to upgrade, …again.

Good luck.

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Posted by: Fatallion.5389

Fatallion.5389

So you used tickets for Hero skins instead of Mistforged out of greed and now you like them to accommodate you by undoing your mistake so you can make them all Mistforged anyway b/c shortcuts and ‘I didn’t know’?

I’d be happy if it was greed, sadly its perfectness. But kind of yes, I didn’t know and I’m hugely surprised if I really was the only one that this happened to.

The Devs may take your suggestion (not a bug) under advisement, and implement it some day. In the meantime, as stated, you will need to purchase any weapons you wish to upgrade, …again.

Good luck.

Thanks!