Guild Wars 2

Not sure if this has been reported yet, but I didn’t see it so here we go.

Occasionally while running dungeons immediately after getting out of combat I will take a utility and swap it with another skill to prepare for the next part. However on some occasions while one of my other utility skills is still on cool down, the skill I swap in will adopt the cool down of the one that is still going on. Having to wait until its up to do anything with, even if the skill I brought in has a lower cool down than the one displayed.

Ex) Near the end of a fight I use ‘Save Yourselves’ (60 second cooldown). 10 seconds later I am out of combat and I swap ‘Wall of Reflection’ which is available for ‘Stand Your Ground’. However the moment ‘Stand Your Ground’ is on my bar, it has a 50 second cool down which is in sync with ‘Save Yourselves’. despite the fact that ‘Stand your Ground’ has a 30 second cool down naturally.

I’ve had it happen with several skills of no particular type and on my warrior as well as my guardian.

Utility bars on land and underwater are linked together. Let’s say you have Frenzy, Endure Pain and Balanced Stance on land bar and Signet of Might, Signet of Fury and Signet of Stamina on underwater bar.

Now if you use any skill on land that slot also goes cooldown underwater. If you use Frenzy on land bar then Signet of Might gets same cooldown on underwater bar. You can verify this by going underwater (but not needed!). Now both skills Frenzy and Signet of Might are on cooldown. You can verify this by equipping Signet of Might (which is what this bug is all about).

This is most obvious to me (as a mesmer) when equipping feedback after using portal. IIRC, portal has 72 second cooldown and feedback has 32 second cooldown when traited.

Example:

- Start with utilities blink, portal and mirror images.
– Use the portal (goes on 72 second cooldown)
– Swap out mirror images for feedback
– Now both portal and feedback are on the same 72 second cooldown.

I think this happens every time for this particular set of utilities but I haven’t extensively tested it. Maybe related to the fact that portal and feedback are both glamour skills.

Oh, I misunderstood Wethospu. I see now, the problem is that I have feedback equipped underwater.

Workaround, then, is to equip 3 useless utilities underwater.

This issue is often tied to elixer skills on Engineer, too.

This has nothing to do with underwater skills being on cooldown (or am I misunderstanding his mail?). I have experienced, and reported it ingame with /bug. The bug was introduced recently. The bug appears to ONLY occur in dungeons.

How I reproduced it:

1) Warrior with For great justice ( skill 7 ), On my mark ( skill 8 ) and Banner of discipline ( skill 9 ).

2) Wait 10 minutes to make sure no skills are on cooldown. Go to plains of ashford and enter the Ascalonian Catacombs dungeon

3) Dunno if this step is necessary, but I activate the first cut scene.

4) Activate banner of discipline (skill 9 ).

5) Swap On My Mark to Balanced Stance (skill 8 ).

6) Result: Balanced Stance ( skill 8 ) AND the banner ( skill 9 ) are now on the same cooldown, even though only skill 9 was activated. Skill 8 was NEVER activated. AND the toon was never in the water – no underwater skills were on cooldown or in use nor used.

This bug occurs often while I run dungeons, when I swap skill 8 to stability, because I need to use it, but alas, I can’t because the game is bugged. I run dungeons with my friends, and we haven’t been near any water for hours when this occurs.

sorenrye.7238:

This has nothing to do with underwater skills being on cooldown (or am I misunderstanding his mail?). I have experienced, and reported it ingame with /bug. The bug was introduced recently. The bug appears to ONLY occur in dungeons.

How I reproduced it:

1) Warrior with For great justice ( skill 7 ), On my mark ( skill 8 ) and Banner of discipline ( skill 9 ).

2) Wait 10 minutes to make sure no skills are on cooldown. Go to plains of ashford and enter the Ascalonian Catacombs dungeon

3) Dunno if this step is necessary, but I activate the first cut scene.

4) Activate banner of discipline (skill 9 ).

5) Swap On My Mark to Balanced Stance (skill 8 ).

6) Result: Balanced Stance ( skill 8 ) AND the banner ( skill 9 ) are now on the same cooldown, even though only skill 9 was activated. Skill 8 was NEVER activated. AND the toon was never in the water – no underwater skills were on cooldown or in use nor used.

You have Balanced Stance in your underwater skill 9. When you used banner (skill 9) on land it also put the underwater skill 9 (Balanced Stance) on cooldown.

Wethospu.6437:

You have Balanced Stance in your underwater skill 9. When you used banner (skill 9) on land it also put the underwater skill 9 (Balanced Stance) on cooldown.

At the point of testing I had these underwater skills on my warrior:

skill 7: Balanced stance
skill 8: For great justice
skill 9: On my mark

The bug that you explain, is reproducible. And so is the bug I am describing – but it only occurs occasionally. The bug you describe can be reproduced 100%, not so with the bug I am describing. Fx, I could not reproduce the bug outside of the dungeon. The bug needs to be fixed. When the party runs from one combat to the next, and swap to balanced stance to stay alive, it should not be on 100+ secs cool down.

How can you have same skill on different underwater slot?
If I have OMM! on underwater slot 9 and equip OMM! to land slot 7 then also OMM! will go to slot 7 on underwater.

As I wrote above. This is not the same bug. If it was the same bug, it should only happen once when you only swap skill 8 back and fourth between OMM and BS (because the underwater skill swaps position when you swap it the first time, and hence will/should not occur again because it is now effectively swapped), and not twice or more, while running multiple dungeons that does not involve ANY underwater activities of any kind.

Bear in mind that both are bugs. And I don’t understand why you want to make it appear to not be a bug.

You claim you have:
For great justice ( skill 7 ), On my mark ( skill 8 ) and Banner of discipline ( skill 9 ) on land.
skill 7: Balanced stance skill 8: For great justice skill 9: On my mark on underwater.

All I’m asking how were you able to get your skills like that. If I equip OMM! on slot 8 on land it will also move underwater OOM! to slot 8.

draconx.3102:

This is most obvious to me (as a mesmer) when equipping feedback after using portal. IIRC, portal has 72 second cooldown and feedback has 32 second cooldown when traited.

Example:

- Start with utilities blink, portal and mirror images.
– Use the portal (goes on 72 second cooldown)
– Swap out mirror images for feedback
– Now both portal and feedback are on the same 72 second cooldown.

I think this happens every time for this particular set of utilities but I haven’t extensively tested it. Maybe related to the fact that portal and feedback are both glamour skills.

I have reported this bug months ago and ANet is ignoring it. Here’s the video I attached to the report showing the bug on my mesmer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00eErlZAlAk

Wethospu.6437:

You claim you have:
For great justice ( skill 7 ), On my mark ( skill 8 ) and Banner of discipline ( skill 9 ) on land.
skill 7: Balanced stance skill 8: For great justice skill 9: On my mark on underwater.

All I’m asking how were you able to get your skills like that. If I equip OMM! on slot 8 on land it will also move underwater OOM! to slot 8.

I done some more testing, and I think you are right. I forgot to take into consideration, that every time I swap skills, they swap underwater too. I initially thought the underwater skills stayed in the same position. Sigh ….. anet, anet, anet.

Well anyways. As usual all these bugs that should be fixable in 10 minutes each … are here forever.