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I have noticed that the damage on my iberserker seems to do about 50% less damage. I’m hitting the dummies and the difference between all the hits is roughly ~2k(now) and over 4k before the patch.

Intentional or bug?

Yeah, me too.

Why were you hiding information about this change?
The only answer is, it MUST be a bug, so you didn’t know.
That’s fine :-), just change it back and we may overcome the fact that with every patch you nerf the mesmer into the ground. (I am speaking for PVE)

it must be BUG… i hope they fix soon

This is what I’ve just found out too in my recent testing after the patch. The initial first strike by Phantasmal Berserker does NOT do its full damage or it could be the number of hits for its first strike is reduced or the damage output for the first strike is reduced. This has to be bugged as the damage reduction is just game breaking. This further ties with the general survival ability issues with phantasms that rarely lives through its second attack, so that means our phantasm’s first strike is usually our measure for our overall DPS. The damage reduction is by as much as roughly ~50% and it’s very noticeable. My attack is 3k and with 25 stacks of superior sigil of bloodlust that brings up to about 3.3k attack. My crit chance is 60% and +crit damage is 40% and the first attack by Phantasmal Berserker on CRIT does 1400~2000 and without crit it hit just slightly over 1k. It’s a major disappointment to realize that my auto attack does the SAME damage as my Berserker. It feels really lackluster to kill things with GS now and our DPS using GS went down significantly after this patch.

Edit: I also noticed the average number of hits by Berserker is reduced down to just 2-3 hits per each of its swirl. That’s the result from what I just tested at HotM. My pvp mesmer stats has 2.7k attack, 58% crit chance and +37% crit dmg. Against stationary heavy golem, the initial attack by Berserker only does roughly 500~1k and my auto attack can sometimes hit more than that. It’s just absurd how our phantasm is behaving right now. This is too much of a hit for me that I find myself unmotivated to do anything and even lost my interest in the upcoming new event.

yup a lot less damage.

Tested out berserker on lions arch dummies after the patch. EVERY other phantasm is doing significantly more damage than the zerker.

/voted, Iberserker definitely loose a lot of damage because if this update…

Very annoying…

yeah i was just saying this in game… if this is a nerf then…… ADD NEW WEAPONS FOR US TO WIELD because i have no 2nd weapon worth taking for condition builds (before some1 bring the usual nabby comment “lol GS for condition builds” spatial surge clones stack tones of bleeding/berserker hits hard even in a condtion build and stacks aoe bleed and mirror blade for aoe confusion so yeah, GS soooo bad for condtion builds lolz). If its a bug, fix this **** quick!

I have 3k attack, 45% crit rate and 20% additional crit damage – and Berserker is spewing out 500-900 CRIT on its first strike. That’s more than 50% less damage than it did pre-patch. Also, it feels like the crit rate has been reduced even with Phantasmal Fury traited – but I’m not sure if that’s my imagination or whether others have noticed it.

Can we have an official answer already? Bug or is this the worst nerf mesmers got since launch?

It’s saddening, bezerker seems weaker than auto attack now

Seren.6850:

It’s saddening, bezerker seems weaker than auto attack now

That’s because it is…

I really, really hope that this is a bug and will be resolved swiftly. My damage whilst using the ability is down by approximately 2k, and I’m not even built as a glass cannon.

really hope this gets fixed very soon

Confirmed. I’ve ALWAYS noted my mesmer does PATHETIC damage in PVE , but this makes iberzerker useless. I may as well use the GS auto attack and get more damage out of the same GCD.

Further analysis of this from the mesmer forums indicates this only applies to the first whirl, but the first whirl is usually the only whirl

Metaform.4120:

I’m 99.5% sure it’s a bug and not one related to damage but when and where the initial “bladetrail” starts.

As a fresh 80 Mesmer with a cruddy 1700 power my first “bladetrail” did something like 600 damage to a random Cursed Shore Risen. It used to do around 2,000 damage or so.

First reaction was OMG WHAT DID THEY DO. Then I decided to let my iBerserker do all the work. Every “bladetrail” after the first did the normal ~2k it’s always done.

My best guess? The first several attacks miss due to where it spawns, afterward it’s position is better and the all land.

*All of the above done on stationary Cursed Shore Risen attacking NPC’s so the iBerserker doesn’t die instantly.

The issue is definitely that iBerskerer isn’t hitting as consistently as it used to. Additional whirls are just as random as the first (getting 0 to 3 possible hits). So it is not just the first whirl. Overall, this is a huge nerf to that phantasm, making it significantly weaker in damage output than any other phantasm (possibly excluding iMage and the utility ones) and unreliable in whether it will even hit or not.

I’m glad I didn’t get an exotic greatsword as I was planning this week, because now it is simply not an effective weapon to use.

Barely dealing 1/3 of my Original :|

Mystiq Angelic.8193:

This has to be bugged as the damage reduction is just game breaking. This further ties with the general survival ability issues with phantasms that rarely lives through its second attack, so that means our phantasm’s first strike is usually our measure for our overall DPS. The damage reduction is by as much as roughly ~50% and it’s very noticeable….. It’s a major disappointment to realize that my auto attack does the SAME damage as my Berserker. It feels really lackluster to kill things with GS now and our DPS using GS went down significantly after this patch.

Edit: I also noticed the average number of hits by Berserker is reduced down to just 2-3 hits per each of its swirl. That’s the result from what I just tested at HotM. My pvp mesmer stats has 2.7k attack, 58% crit chance and +37% crit dmg. Against stationary heavy golem, the initial attack by Berserker only does roughly 500~1k and my auto attack can sometimes hit more than that. It’s just absurd how our phantasm is behaving right now. This is too much of a hit for me that I find myself unmotivated to do anything and even lost my interest in the upcoming new event.

Ditto for me.. What pisses me off is I just dropped what little gold I had on white dye for my mesmer to complete the transmute, and now I guess I burn time on my elementalist while I wait this out.

In Orr, at Shelter Waypoint, there are 3 mobs that spawn about every 3 mins. I send my izerker in on those 3 and it goes in.. hits once for 1k damage to ONE MOB…and then dies. This is even with the trait “Persisting Images” (20% more health) & Signet of Illusions (50% more health). I have 2300 power so thats not the problem.
Ive run this spec prior to todays patch and the zerker has lived through the first twirl easily!
There’s definately a bug with the trait/signet

Soo frustrating and nothing has been even addressed by the devs :/

It appears berserker damage has been decreased by about 60%. There is not a thing in the patch notes about this.

Problem is, with how slow they are to address these issues, it will probably be weeks before a problem is even acknowledged…let alone a fix being worked on. I give up.

It would be nice if you could provide as much information as possible into that thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/mesmer/Overview-of-mesmer-bugs-after-patch/first#post751916

yay, the scepter is useless, the torch more than the scepter, the focus only used for the run-bump skill, now we can delete the GS since the berserker is bad as hell.

Alright. left, staff – sword – pistol. Awesome…. -_-"

I love GW2 and his freedom…

I am experiencing this as well

deapee.7516:

It appears berserker damage has been decreased by about 60%. There is not a thing in the patch notes about this.

Problem is, with how slow they are to address these issues, it will probably be weeks before a problem is even acknowledged…let alone a fix being worked on. I give up.

Yes, very slow.. non existant. Although it must be nice to come to the boards as a Ranger and get a response in no time flat
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/MASSIVE-Ranger-trap-BUG/first#post751104 7th post down, around that anyway

I’m definitely getting far fewer hits per swirl on the berserker, and each of the hits do seem to be hitting for less. I was easily hitting 3-4k per swirl per mob of the berserker, and now it often hits for 1-1.5k, which is really unacceptable.

Can you guys please at least acknowledge this issue or tell us if it was a ninja nerf?

I believe the iDuelist also does less damage, probably due to the same bug. Can’t comment on the iMage as I don’t use that. 10 minutes on a practise dummy, the most I could get out of iBerserker is 2.25k (i just let it hit it continually without recasting). This is down considerably where I would often get 5k+ in full exotic berserker gear.

The fact that a mesmer can’t hit the walls to break in, means the LOS is more of an issue now and basically made sieges pointless for us. LOS is a tad silly as I can clearly see what I’m trying to hit but …..

A run around the WvW zones after the patch I found it hard pressed to see another mesmer.

Berserker/phantasm’s are now missing initial hits, this needs fixing it’s a HUGE issue.

If you are changing the phantasms to be like direct damage damage abilities then there should be only one Hit/Avoid check. Either have it when cast or when it uses it’s abilities, not both.

There is no other skill ingame that when you target someone and use it can be avoided twice, they either hit or they miss they do not hit or miss then hit or miss again.

This needs to be fixed quickly, some acknowledgement of it would be a start.

Do they not test this kitten before releasing it?

Dear Anet:

Could a class balance representative please just respond to this post one way or another? Having no idea if this is intended or a bug is far more frustrating than the change itself.

Is this an undocumented change, or is this an unintended change that will be fixed? I have seen other class bug posts responded to – could someone please respond to us?

Fellow Mesmers,

I checked many threads and many forum posts for the IBerserker issue. The most frustrating about all the discussion we have is that ANET does not seem to react on it, neither give us any answer/feedback/sticky on the subject. As you (ANET) can see, we are quite annoyed by this fact. Can you show any support to your community by simply calming us down or notifying us that you follow these posts and that our bug reports are not in vein.

After all, we are customers and we want to be treated as such.

Just so you know , no they wont comment on this.
Yes its a ninja nerf which they probably did because they know it would piss of a lot of players.
They probably just did this because according to them the damage on the berserker was still to high.
And nerfing a skill twise in a row is just to much to post in the patch notes.

So either they are going to “fix” this later on by a little bit of a damage increase however still less then before this patch.

And before you use the customer excuse to arenanet, they dont care that much.
Its not a subscription based game and you already bought their game.

Daisai.5879:

Just so you know , no they wont comment on this.
Yes its a ninja nerf which they probably did because they know it would piss of a lot of players.
They probably just did this because according to them the damage on the berserker was still to high.
And nerfing a skill twise in a row is just to much to post in the patch notes.

So either they are going to “fix” this later on by a little bit of a damage increase however still less then before this patch.

And before you use the customer excuse to arenanet, they dont care that much.
Its not a subscription based game and you already bought their game.

The saddest thing is that you’re right.

It’s definately a targeting issue.

The farther away a iBerzeker starts its spin, the more likely it will do its correct damage/hits. The problem is that it gets summoned in melee range, and is lucky to land more than 1 hit on its first pass.

Arena.net this needs to be fixed, as iBerzeker is one of the mesmer mainsources of reliable AoE damage.

The class is heavily crippled now in PVE.

Still waiting on official response…

Kinda cool btw, fully exotic “glass cannon” doing 2k crits…..
Oh well, they just end up making blizzard their work easier.

it’s totally bugged, sometimes it no longer gets in position to attack and just attacks from where it is, missing almost every attack. please rework this.

also, it seems like illusionary duelist is firing less bullets sometimes.

respond to all the bug post sin this forum get them bumpe dget some attention get a response

We really need a response here, it’s not that hard… this is just frustrating

I can confirm this as well. My iBerserker is consistently doing 1/3 of it’s pre-patch damage… ONE THIRD. My autoattack does more damage now – this damage nerf really makes the greatsword pointless.

hunters get instant response mesmers get crap 2 people balancing the pvp game is kitten. get ur game straight anet.

Can we get a dev response on this game-breaking issue for mesmers? Even a “we’re looking into it” would be great.

Rangers got a fix instantly. Mesmer forum hasn’t had a dev post in months.

just keep bumping mesmer posts it should get some response

Arenanet dev " kitten #8230; what do i do now boss ? " kitten #8230;

“shut up nimsy”

I tested and verified this again in heart of the mists against the target dummies. It’s is very noticeable – it is not just a small reduction.

The Phantasmal Berserker seems to be doing significantly less damage than before and is rather pathetic of an ability to use at this point. I’m not sure what the logic was behind this, but an official response as to this issue is necessary.

I agree with the posters above.

Wow… they had a response to the asura ears but not this? Such excellent priorities…

I totally agree Aberrant…

this is bs and piss poor from anet to their community

Lol, yeah agreed Aberrant. You’ve got to be kidding me.

Kinda hoping we get a response to this issue…

It seems that asura ears take higher priority.