kitten not coughing up Chest

kitten not coughing up Chest

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Posted by: notebene.3190

notebene.3190

I’ve posted about this before, and have been told it has to do with diminishing returns, and not ‘moving’ enough in between events. And yes, I can consistently walk to the zone, zone, zone back, log out, and be ready for the next time. That works.

The issue is kitten not always coughing up the chest and bonus reward as it should, or registering that I completed the event. Yes, I do enough damage, which is whole other topic of disgust which I’ll save for another post. Other’s have said it’s the DR code kicking in, and the only way to ensure it counts each time is to zone (sadly, a quick trip to WvW doesn’t count) in and out and that clears it. That method works for me, but is completely silly.

My problem is twofold if this is intentional.

First, it really has nothing to do with anything. I can see why it exists for farming the same normal mobs in an area, diminishing returns, love it or hate it, it has a purpose, and I guess it makes sense. But if they were ‘really’ looking at the activity of my character, it’s kitten. That’s it, for that character. It’s the character’s job. kitten. If their program looks at the activity, they’d see the character login, maybe chop some trees, log a few things, kill a mob or two over by the fort to the west, then run over and stand on the rocks and wait. Help kill kitten, run down to get the chest, immediately log out to login the character to do Jungle Wurm. Log back in after Jungle Wurm to run the warrior to town, sell, salvage, logout ready for next time. Hardly farming mobs over and over again for a specific type of loot that would warrant diminishing returns. Once a day.

Second, it’s applied totally inconsistently. I have characters that ‘sit’ near other places, just as close, in the case of Jungle Wurm, much closer.

kitten Route – this is the one that has problems, where I don’t get the chest every time, and yes, the daily reset has occurred. I do it usually at 6am my time every morning, or try to when it doesn’t stiff me. And yes, same amount of damage every time, yada yada yada.

Jungle Wurm Route – far closer, never have an issue with it not coughing up a reward.

If it were consistent, it would stiff me at SB after so many rounds, Jungle Wurm, maybe even Maw, though I ‘think’ that character runs far enough away (town to the SW) that it would count that as leaving the immediate vicinity.

So … yeah, this is, has been, hopefully not ever shall be, a real pain. Not shaking my fist at DR philosophically, but it’s picking up a type of behavior, apparently, that makes no sense to punish under DR.

Edit: ‘kitten’ is Shaterrerererer, but I didn’t feel like typing that out, and that’s also just plain silly.

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Posted by: Bomber.3872

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If I understand you right, the problem is that you won’t get the chest + bonus chest every day?

Because I’m doing exactly the same as you with some char (one at shatterer too) and I get each day the big chest an the bonus chest. I don’t move that far away as you and I don’t log in other zones.

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Posted by: notebene.3190

notebene.3190

If I understand you right, the problem is that you won’t get the chest + bonus chest every day?

Because I’m doing exactly the same as you with some char (one at shatterer too) and I get each day the big chest an the bonus chest. I don’t move that far away as you and I don’t log in other zones.

Yeah, that’s the problem. Only seems to happen there, but it ‘might’ have happened once at SB.

I was told by a few people that it had to do with the Diminishing Returns code, which on the one hand is supposed to prevent botting, but it’s probably realistically more about artificially controlling the economy.

That is, if you stand in one place and kill mobs over and over again, they will stop dropping the nice goodies, unless you move for a little bit and go kill some mobs in another area, then come back and it resets. Not sure what all the mechanics are behind it.

If that’s true, and it is what is affecting my experience at Shatterer, then that’s just plain silly. The character logs in once a day to do nothing but that, so based on time, it should reset. It’s not like I’m killing him over and over again, every 5 minutes, for hours at a time. Once a day.

And, if it were true, then I’m saying it’s completely inconsistent, since it doesn’t happen at Jungle Wurm, where my character logs off at that Heart vendor every day, and pops in to just do the wurm. And that is much closer.

And it doesn’t happen all the time with Shatterer. It seems like it will go along just fine, then all the sudden ‘hit’, and the only way to clear it is to zone to the next zone to the west, and come back. If I do that, it clears it and it starts working again.

It’s annoying, and a bug.

If it’s ‘not’ a bug, and their intention is to ‘really’ have all the bosses behave that way, with DR rules annoying us, then it’s inconsistent, and they need to fix all the other bosses to force us to move.

Which…would be horrifying and silly, it’s got to be a bug.

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Posted by: Khisanth.2948

Khisanth.2948

Doing other events in between also works. I used to have one of my eles parked near Shadow Behemoth. Never ran into any issue but I always did at least one of the pre-events.

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Posted by: Sariel V.7024

Sariel V.7024

I’ve seen something similar happen with JP chests, namely the one in Not So Secret. If you tried to get it by logging in daily, it would usually require more than 24 hours for the chest to reset, unless you changed your server. Doing that would cause it to appear.

That won’t help you get a reward for an event that you’ve already finished, since the chests are tied to the server you finish them on. But making sure you’re on a different server ( /ip ) before you start might help insure that the credit from the previous day’s encounter gets wiped.

BTW, it should only take about 15-30 minutes of playing elsewhere to get rid of DR.

(edited by Sariel V.7024)

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Posted by: notebene.3190

notebene.3190

BTW, it should only take about 15-30 minutes of playing elsewhere to get rid of DR.

But that’s just it, it shouldn’t affect something like this at all.

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Posted by: Sariel V.7024

Sariel V.7024

You may have a point there. At any rate, you’re already aware that sitting in one place doing the same one event isn’t helping, so break the pattern.

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Posted by: notebene.3190

notebene.3190

You may have a point there. At any rate, you’re already aware that sitting in one place doing the same one event isn’t helping, so break the pattern.

That’s why I said in my post (and I know, it’s long, but that’s all I know, verbosity) that I was aware what would fix it for that place, but me posting about it in the bug forum wasn’t to ask how to possibly get around the problem.

It was to be grumpy about the fact that it’s a bug and, just as Generalissimo Francisco Franco still being dead, is still a bug.

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Posted by: notebene.3190

notebene.3190

Today, I logged in where I had logged out the day before, at the chest (I usually get the big chest after the event, leave the bonus chest unopened, and log out quickly to login the character at either Maw or Wurm, depending on the time), about 5 minutes before the event.

Like usual, there were lots of people waiting. I flipped my horn in, ran to the place to the NW to sell, and then ran out the zone portal into Iron Marches to the West of that, just in case, zoned back in, and ran to get ‘on station’ for kitten.

Did kitten, usual rotations, yada yada.

No event completion.
No bonus chest.
No visible big chest to loot (though the icon is on the mini map).

This is clearly some kind of bug, and it’s annoying. I don’t have this problem logging out characters near a world boss and logging them in once a day to do a world boss, just this place.