Guild Wars 2

where is money ? only watchwork sprockets in resplendent watchwork boxes…

I was wondering the same, still have couple of boxes left. Was saving em so i could open them all at once but i notice its not giving our hard earned silver now. Pls update, Thank you.

No reason to do the gauntlet anymore then

In other words, ANet somehow thinks it’s OK to nerf rewards players had already earned legitimately if the player hadn’t opened the bags by the time the patch went live, meanwhile not documenting the change in the patch notes.

The issue is not the rewards going forward. The issue is the rewards that were already earned that ANet simply removed from the game.

I understand the need for the reward change, and most people saw it coming, but it should’ve taken effect on NEW bags, not ones people had already spent considerable time (and money, if the tickets were purchased) farming.

Josh Davis.6015:

Boxes dropped from Queen’s Gauntlet no longer contain coin. However, the first time you kill each boss each day will grant more coin than it did before.

Killing each boss once per day will be more profitable than it was previously.

Instead of earning upwards of 50g/day you will now earn a pitiful amount and be required to fight each of these gimmicky gladiators once UND ONLY VONCE per day, in keeping with the spirit of time gating.

It is a very bad idea to change rewards after players had already earned those bags.

So what am i supposed to do with the stack of tickets i bought this morning? Thanks for taking gold out of my pocket Anet.

How is it fair that I still have 1305 unopened bag just so I can save space instead of spocket piling up that I get penalties for it later.

Josh Davis.6015:

Boxes dropped from Queen’s Gauntlet no longer contain coin. However, the first time you kill each boss each day will grant more coin than it did before.

Killing each boss once per day will be more profitable than it was previously.

It better be A LOT more, because those tickets are quite expensive.

pavilion don’t work until 3 september, but reward was nerfed :-) lol

Will gambit affect the coin amounts?

Josh Davis.6015:

Boxes dropped from Queen’s Gauntlet no longer contain coin. However, the first time you kill each boss each day will grant more coin than it did before.

Killing each boss once per day will be more profitable than it was previously.

And now no one will farm gambits anymore. Thanks a lot /s. Players want to farm gold, that is what we want. Stop taking away all the good farms.

LostInSmoke.2590:

Josh Davis.6015:

Boxes dropped from Queen’s Gauntlet no longer contain coin. However, the first time you kill each boss each day will grant more coin than it did before.

Killing each boss once per day will be more profitable than it was previously.

And now no one will farm gambits anymore. Thanks a lot /s. Players want to farm gold, that is what we want. Stop taking away all the good farms.

The main point actually is so that people do not feel like one part of the game trumps everything else in terms of rewards. So, yes, their ideal actually is that there are not “good farms.” Everything of relatively similar difficulty is supposed to be relatively similar in terms of rewards.

The caveat is that obviously some rewards are meant to only be available from certain parts of the game. Clearly, gold does not fall under that category.

ColinJohanson.2394:

This is totally our fault, we dropped the ball on this plain and simple. We planned to have this messaged ahead of time to be fair to everyone, communication broke down between those who knew it was supposed to be messaged, and those who were supposed to message it and it simply didn’t happen.

As game director this is ultimately my fault first and foremost, and I’m sorry for those who potentially lost some karma as a result. It is our policy to message these kind of changes ahead of time with lots of warning, I’ll do everything possible to make sure this doesn’t happen in the future.

I’d recommend not using your karma consumables yet, give us a day or two to try and see what options we have available to help mitigate the issue.

Looks like another case of broken communication. Are we gonna get option on clockwork box as well.

LostInSmoke.2590:

And now no one will farm gambits anymore. Thanks a lot /s. Players want to farm gold, that is what we want. Stop taking away all the good farms.

Speak for yourself. Some of us enjoy the content for what it is.

The farming narrative is getting very old.

Blumoon.5437:

LostInSmoke.2590:

And now no one will farm gambits anymore. Thanks a lot /s. Players want to farm gold, that is what we want. Stop taking away all the good farms.

Speak for yourself. Some of us enjoy the content for what it is.

The farming narrative is getting very old.

Believe it or not many hold it true

Some people will be disappointed by losing this farm option, and others won’t be. The farming part of it is not the point of this thread, though.

The fact is that ANet removed rewards that players had already earned through playing legitimate content, which is an abysmally bad decision.

Josh Davis.6015:

Boxes dropped from Queen’s Gauntlet no longer contain coin. However, the first time you kill each boss each day will grant more coin than it did before.

Killing each boss once per day will be more profitable than it was previously.

Josh, we love you and your team and their work on Super Adventure Box.

But why more DAILY content? T_T

I wouldn’t care if deadeye doesn’t drop bag anymore. But nerfing earned bags?

Please stop whining. Everyone knew nerfs were coming, especially to a content so destructive as Deadeye farming. Opening all the bags and stopping buying tickets were the very basics things to be safe against these.

On a side note, I really like the new reward system, as promotes variety and gives a reason to re-fight bosses.

Darkever.9732:

Please stop whining. Everyone knew nerfs were coming, especially to a content so destructive as Deadeye farming. Opening all the bags and stopping buying tickets were the very basics things to be safe against these.

Absolutely. That’s the reason I made sure to open every single box as I kept getting them, even as sprockets piled up. It wouldn’t be the first time that a patch modifies an item.
People that didn’t open the boxes or that bought piles of tickets when they knew a patch was around the corner lacked forethought.

DontThrowEggsPls.4235:

Darkever.9732:

Please stop whining. Everyone knew nerfs were coming, especially to a content so destructive as Deadeye farming. Opening all the bags and stopping buying tickets were the very basics things to be safe against these.

Absolutely. That’s the reason I made sure to open every single box as I kept getting them, even as sprockets piled up. It wouldn’t be the first time that a patch modifies an item.
People that didn’t open the boxes or that bought piles of tickets when they knew a patch was around the corner lacked forethought.

or maybe the patch interrupted their farming so that anet could reach in and rip gold out of our pockets

Woah, Grouch in Anet… Now I understand why we didn’t have SOTG recently :P

Maybe now the farmers will stop whining at me to go to another dome to challenge Liadri because it’s “messing up their farm”. Guess what, fellas, ALL the domes have farmers! :P

I honestly did not expect something like this to happen. I’ve always been a very hardcore fan of GW2 and have recommended it to people at all times, but this event has completely changed my way of looking at the game

Today I logged in after being away for 3 days, and found that the bags I worked hard for no longer contain anything of value. Not by bug, not by mistake, but intentionally

I have no real words for this. After being on the gauntlet I have a good, tangible amount of gold. I have never been in a better position to enjoy the game; and now, knowing things like this can happen, I never felt less inclined to continue playing it

It’s not how much I lost, really. It amounted to around 20 gold, which isn’t much at all. It’s knowing that the developers WILL take away the players’ rightful rewards for no reason other than “because”

I won’t have much free time in the foreseeable future, and will have to choose where to spend it more carefully. Playing a game that will punish me for playing it… It’s not even a real option, to be honest

I’ll continue to keep an eye in case something about this changes, but I’m not actually expecting anything to change anymore

There is no exception to the following statement:

If you left boxes unopened or bought a load of stacks just before today came around, legitimately thinking this farm would go unnerfed on the big patch, you are a complete and utter idiot.

Not a single one of you deserves any form of compensation.

Auesis.7301:

There is no exception to the following statement:

If you left boxes unopened or bought a load of stacks just before today came around, legitimately thinking this farm would go unnerfed on the big patch, you are a complete and utter idiot.

Not a single one of you deserves any form of compensation.

I guess opening bags as you get them is too mainstream for some people.

The Meat Wagon.7194:

No reason to do the gauntlet anymore then

Yeah because the entire reason anyone would ever do the gauntlet is for the grinding. :P

Vick.6805:

The issue is not the rewards going forward. The issue is the rewards that were already earned that ANet simply removed from the game.

I totally agree, should’ve taken effect on NEW BAGS. Removing the rewards on the already earned bags is so rude.

Kirika.7136:

I won’t have much free time in the foreseeable future, and will have to choose where to spend it more carefully. Playing a game that will punish me for playing it… It’s not even a real option, to be honest

Look, you’re angry, we get it.
But how is not opening boxes “playing the game”, versus opening them? How is the game punishing you for “playing it”?

If you play a MMORPG, and you don’t constantly expect the things above average to be nerfed, you’re probably on your first MMORPG. It’s how balancing works, and last I checked everyone wanted balance.

Anyone know if lodestones still have a chance of dropping from the bags? Even doing all the bosses once daily I wont use up the whole stack of tickets I have left over plus this new event is dropping them like mad. Id still 4 gambit farm the rest of my stack at the off chance of getting a lodestone or two, its better than it sitting in the bank.

Yeap got a charged lodestone off some of mine that I had left over.

Carighan.6758:

Look, you’re angry, we get it.
But how is not opening boxes “playing the game”, versus opening them? How is the game punishing you for “playing it”?

If you play a MMORPG, and you don’t constantly expect the things above average to be nerfed, you’re probably on your first MMORPG. It’s how balancing works, and last I checked everyone wanted balance.

I’m not angry. I am heavily disappointed. Whichever collective “you” you were referring to did not get it

“But how is not opening boxes “playing the game”, versus opening them?" – You know what else I have that I didn’t use? A good amount of express trader items, revive orbs, repair canisters. I have 14 charged quartz crystals in the bank, up to until a month ago I had around 12 PvP reward chests in my bank. And yet, even though I didn’t instantly use everything I got the moment I got it, it’s still considered playing the game, somehow. So there’s your answer to that

Also, in case you’re genuinely wondering, I wasn’t able to use my computer until yesterday. I would have the bags opened if I did

“How is the game punishing you for “playing it”?" – It very literally is

I had bought 500 tickets, which cost 100×20 silver for a total of 20 gold (plus sprockets, but I don’t even need to factor those in). I used 215 of them, or at least had 215 bags left unopened

So let’s assume I didn’t die any times, and have used only 215 of those tickets. The unused tickets they have provided a use for in the future , so I won’t even count them. In the end, 215 tickets is 43×20 silver, for a total of 8 gold and 60 silver, again ignoring the sprockets

Before, this would result in around 21 gold and 50 silver from those bags. After this patch, the bags no longer drop currency. So we’re left with the sprockets they drop

Now let’s assume each bag drops around 5 sprockets, which is a very, very generous estimate. And let’s also assume the sprockets also still go for 10 copper each on the trading post (which I’d be willing to bet they don’t, since very few people will be buying them now). And now let’s even ignore the 15% money loss that occurs when one sells something through the trading post

This will mean that I would have 5×215 sprockets after opening these bags, amounting to 1075. Selling each for 10 copper, I’d end up with 1 gold, 7 silver, and 50 copper. 8 gold and 60 silver for 1 gold, 7 silver and 50 copper

Which leads us to the finale. Even not factoring the time I used getting those bags (i.e. assuming buying 5 tickets would instantly yield a guaranteed 5 bags), every time I bought 5 tickets I would be exchanging 20 silver for 2 silver 50 copper

This is without factoring the sprocket cost on buying the tickets, which would lower that 2.5 silver to 1 silver, without factoring the 15% tax on the trading post which would lower it further to 85 copper, without taking into account that bags don’t even drop an average of 5 sprockets, without taking into account the price drop that most likely occurred in sprocket trading, and without taking into account the time needed to get the bags

So, in a more realistic perspective, that is losing time to effectively exchange 20 silver into around 65 copper, at most, for a grand total of exchanging 8 gold and 60 silver for 27 silver and 95 copper. You can even throw a lucky Charged Lodestone in there to make things less grim, if you want to

And so I ask: how does this, in any way, not seem like punishment to you?

Well if it makes anyone feel a little bit better knowing someone out there lost more than you check attatchment. 4,750 bags….guess this is what I get for being an idiot and trying to fill and entire bank slot with these things lol. Anyways, nerf was expected just didn’t think the bags would turn near completely useless.