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Posted by: CursedShaitan.9720

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My main concern with this thread is making sure people who are living with substandard performance are aware they may have the potential to get a lot more than they are currently and not let you be dissuaded by posts telling you an upgrade is the only viable option.

Suddenly a miracle has happened and i’m getting amazing fps at Maximum settings to boot. I’m posting primarily because a lot of people are being told their FX, I5, or even I7 is insufficient to play this game at decent settings because of general optimization issues that would require a complete recode of the game to correct. The fact that my phenom II is now proving capable of these feats and knowing they didn’t up and recode the entire game over night goes to show that perhaps something else is more specific (bug related maybe?) than overall lack of optimization(i’m not suggesting the game is highly optimized) is at play here on systems experiencing such issues.

Today, for the first time since owning GW2 I played with decent frame and I’m not sure whats happened but after being told and accepting that “it isn’t possible and the game isn’t optimized for amd CPU’s” i’m thoroughly shocked. This is my 3rd reformat since i’ve owned the game and my performance after a fresh install/download has never been anywhere close to this smooth(in fact the best I could get was roughly a 3rd of what i’m getting now)
Today though after a power failure that forced me to do a clean install of 8.1 and the same beta drivers I had been using and now i’m getting 100 fps with super sampling on and everything maxed. and in world events i’m only dipping as low at 34 fps keeping above 40fps in zergs.

Yesterday I could hope for 15-40 tops with the graphics cranked down to best performance. Not even spinning around during a world events getting me close to the slide show i was getting before.

I’m not sure whats happened. The drivers are the same. The OS is the same, the overclocks the same, the install disk is the same. I followed the same procedure i did the last 2 times as well down to the order in which i installed all my software. I see nothing in the change log to explain this except for some server side optimizations that were released days ago and did nothing at the time for my frame rates?

Is anyone else suddenly having any major improvements?

i’m running a phenom II x4 965 at 4.3ghz w/2.6gh cpu/nb.
8gb 1333mhz, M4A79T Deluxe Motherboard, 7770+7750 in crossfire
1terabyte HDD.

If you are using an Phenom II or FX processor and getting the sudden change i am chime in. If you are still getting lousy performance maybe we can look deeper and figure out the issue because I know a lot of you had given up any hope under the impression that lack of optimization made playable frame rates impossible but the fact that my Phenom II is pulling it off likely means your much new proc can too

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Posted by: scootshoot.6583

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Per recent patch notes

•Introduced further server-side optimizations, with significant improvements during heavy combat scenarios.

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Posted by: CursedShaitan.9720

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As I mentioned I downloaded that patch and played on it before this happened. No performance increase resulted from the patch. this wasn’t until after that patch came out. Secondly their have been many posts since the patch and even since this post that have superior systems to mine getting inferior results. Even today i saw someone get told their FX-8100 couldn’t cut it and thats why they are getting sub 20fps in game. Another instance today suggested someones i7 might need overclocking. I see it as unlikely server optimizations would give me such a massive 3x increase in fps and not do the same for others with newer systems.

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my current settings
Animation: High
AA:None (fxxa makes a pretty game ugly)
Environment:High
LOD Distance: Ultra
Reflections:(usually on All but some zones take much bigger hits for it so i turn it off in those instances
Textures: High
Render Sampling: Super Sample
Shadows: Ultra
Shaders: High
Post Processing: High
Number of Character Model: Highest
Character Model Quality: Highest

Everything ticked except best texture filtering(strange 20fps hit with that one)

A general before and after (before with medium settings after with near max)

Solo PVE (33-58 before) (70-130,after 200 if on native sampling)
Dungeons(15-30 before) (38-70)
Large Zerg(10-20)(40-50)
World Event/WvW(5-12)(34-50)

All 4 of my cores are being utilized 100% and my GPU is actually get utilized over 30% .

This is huge for me. It was difference between quitting and playing for many more years. Once again I’m asking for people with good fps and AMD or older Intel chips to come forward and share their specs along with those who don’t and see if we can find a commonality that divides us. I’m really excited to be able to finally play this game as intended and I’d hate to think their are a bunch of people settling for way way way less than they need to because they think its their only choice.

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Posted by: sobe.4157

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Glad it’s working better for you

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Posted by: DarkHigh.2516

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Not inclined to believe a phenom with a 7770 can achieve this. screen shot or it didn’t happen. Fairly fluent in hardware and it leads me to believe you are simply trolling.

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Posted by: CursedShaitan.9720

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Not inclined to believe a phenom with a 7770 can achieve this. screen shot or it didn’t happen. Fairly fluent in hardware and it leads me to believe you are simply trolling.

crossfireX

screenie coming up.

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Posted by: CursedShaitan.9720

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Ended up having to change model settings to high to keep above 40 in all situations but the point remains. I couldn’t stay above 30fps even on lowest settings before.

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would normally be at sub 25 fps just standing here.

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Posted by: DarkHigh.2516

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Thank you for taking the time to provide proof. I sincerely apologize for my disbelief. I will spread this information as far as I can.

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Posted by: CursedShaitan.9720

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Some Solo Play, waiting for a world event to start somewhere. I don’t blame you for your disbelief. I didn’t believe it when it happened and i was witnessing it with my own eyes. Like I said my main concern with this thread is making sure people who are living with substandard performance are aware they may have potential to get a lot more than they are currently and speculate how this has happened(i sure as hell don’t know).

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Posted by: Don.6510

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i have notices a big difference with my amd fx 8320, asus m5a97 r2.0, 32gb ram and crossfire radon hd 6770 i will say about 20 fps across the board

amd fx 8320 @4.0ghz, nvidia geforce gts 250, 32 gb ram 1tb hard drive, m5a97 r2.0

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Posted by: Alex.5283

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Your fps are higher than mines in max settings in zergs and I run an i5-4670k at 4.2 ghz and gtx 760 o.o

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Posted by: CursedShaitan.9720

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Think it might be a combination of both cpu and crossfire optimization? I wonder if we can find any instances of intel with dual card setups improving or Single Card AMD set ups.

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Posted by: Don.6510

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wvw i get 30 in big groups on max setting including the checks at the bottom are on
open world 40 to 60 depending on where i am at
dont really pvp
i will will post a screenshot later

amd fx 8320 @4.0ghz, nvidia geforce gts 250, 32 gb ram 1tb hard drive, m5a97 r2.0

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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I’m going to upload a screenshot at Queensdale from the boar with people waiting at the same settings. Will post specs too.

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Okay so I took two screenshots, one at 1600×900 and the other at 1920×1080. No difference in FPS on my system specs.

Even without vertical sync, I still had much lower FPS.

My specs are,
AMD FX-8350 running 4.1 turboing
16 GB DDR3 1600 CL9
Radeon HD 7970 crossfire (CFX disabled for GW2)
Biostar TA990FXE

Makes me really curious how you get such fps like that.

[Off topic, darn; I forgot to have my genesis in screenie because I like it a lot more than my gs :P]

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Posted by: manupa.6829

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I have a phenom II x6 at 3.5Ghz and a 7970 Ghz and only in queensdale my fps drop as low as 35. Running windows 7 Sp1 64 bits and 6 gb ram

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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I forgot to disable crossfire on this scene I uploaded a screenshot of. I did just now and got a whopping TWO whole frames more. Yay me.

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Posted by: SolarNova.1052

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OP.

Go to LA, jump to the north waypoint. Run over the bridge and just before the steps going down to the MYsticForge. Zoom out as far as u can and take a screenshot with FPS and settings shown. Thats usualy a godo place that every1 can get to and hav e simular load on screen as LA is usualy constantly busy during normal play times.

Unlike WvW which can be a pain to find a sizable zerg and each zerg can be vastley different in size.

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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^ I’ve had the worst results doing that with the Black Gate Lion’s Arch all the time.