Guild Wars 2

Hello, I got a 29 inch 4k monitor and the game looks amazing but even on largest interface size it is way too tiny and hard to see so because of interface in WvW I need to downsize my resolution…

Wondering if there’s plans to give us a larger interface size as more people are moving to 4k res… even just a larger/easier to see mouse cursor, in a big fight at that resolution it goes practically invisible which is a shame cause all the animations and whatnot are sharper and easier to see and the game looks so great otherwise.

Well the Steam Hardware survey shows all of 0.02% have 4K res screens. Even if you toss in “unknown” it’s less than 2% with monitors over 1920 wide and most of those are the 2560×1440 ones. We are still talking $500 plus and all those pixels likely also means a beefier video card setup which then needs a beefier PSU to power it and better cooling to keep it running a peak speed rather than Chernobyling your box.

Sure not as much a lot of uber video horsepower for GW2 but if you are blowing $500 and up on a monitor of that resolution and size, you aren’t just playing MMOs.

Monitor was 699, bought the video card a year ago its worth about 400 now(gtx770), game looks amazing at max resolution, smooth in wvw large fights with pretty high quality settings, 60hz displayport, looks great.

Won’t be too long before people have higher res monitors/better video cards, largest interface is very small at 4k 30 inch.. I think the game should support the upgrade better since the game looks so good at 4k res.

Behellagh.1468:

Well the Steam Hardware survey shows all of 0.02% have 4K res screens. Even if you toss in “unknown” it’s less than 2% with monitors over 1920 wide and most of those are the 2560×1440 ones. We are still talking $500 plus and all those pixels likely also means a beefier video card setup which then needs a beefier PSU to power it and better cooling to keep it running a peak speed rather than Chernobyling your box.

Sure not as much a lot of uber video horsepower for GW2 but if you are blowing $500 and up on a monitor of that resolution and size, you aren’t just playing MMOs.

Honestly the hardcore gamer will have it but most won’t have more than HDTV level resolution for the next two years at least. As you pointed out, your monitor and video card together is over $1000. I think that you’ve been breathing the rarefied air of hardcore gamer for so long that you think that kind of investment is mainstream.

Top resolutions on the current Steam survey over 5%

1920×1080 – 33.31%
1366×768 – 25.96%
1600×900 – 7.68%
1280×1024 – 6.21%
1680×1050 – 5.64%
1440×900 – 5.54%

Sure there’s a lot of upward growth since just about everyone is at 2K res or less but it’s not coming soon. 2560×1440 I can believe but not the 4K 3840×2160 monitors.

Well thats your prediction, either way it’s inevitable so might as well be on the list of things to do, i’d be just happy with the larger mouse cursor, it doesn’t seem like some massive programming project does it? For people who have 4k monitors? Whom there are more and more of every day.. there are 4 sizes of interface, i’m just asking for a 5th one for 4k or that range.

Also what are you talking about saying I think 4k is mainstream, obviously its not even remotely anywhere near close to mainstream, i’m asking for a larger mouse cursor basically, don’t need to get into all these statistics, some people can afford 4k monitors, simple as that, I didn’t realize it would look so great or I would have got one earlier.

I guess it depends on your definition of more from your OP, “as more people are moving to 4k res”. If more isn’t a lot, then the time laying out an XXL size wouldn’t be justified from a scheduling PoV. And since a 4K setup can easily run at 2K without the associated problems with monitor based scaling ruining the image it’s probably even less of a priority. They only have a limited amount of manpower so you apply it where it helps the most people for QoL issues.

My opinion of course.

4k is not all that unaffordable now.

4k@30hz 28" $428

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1026864-REG/dell_p2815q_28_ultra_hd.html

And anything that is a 280x/770 will run a game ‘like GW2’ at 4k with moderately high settings.

So, sooner or later, 4K support in gaming is going to have to be standard. Esp. when the cost gets in the 250~ range for the 60hz displays.

However, I probably wont buy into 4K until 120hz is available and the next gen cards are released (Better then GTX980), so I am thinking 2016-2017 is when I’ll upgrade to 4k.

Ya, so there’s plenty of time and therefore not a priority to get a double XL version of the UI done. The only reason it would get done sooner than later is if the UI devs are using 4K screens on their workstations and is done as a lunch project.

dpi scaling for high res screens will always be an issue in pc games and software in general until an basic intel integrated graphics chip can drive a 4k monitor fairly well. or until the 4k tv drops below the 1000 usd price point, at which point console games must adapt as well.

This is the point where a resolution becomes truly “mainstream”. As gamers we are so accustomed to high end hardware that we forget that even having a discrete graphics card is a luxury to many people who play.

As the steam hardware shows 1080p is barely a standard. Many desktop units/aios are still shipping with 900p and the standard 500usd laptop monitor is still 768p as intel hd4xxx units still cant drive even casual games at 1080p with playable frame rates.

Behellagh.1468:

Well the Steam Hardware survey shows all of 0.02% have 4K res screens. Even if you toss in “unknown” it’s less than 2% with monitors over 1920 wide and most of those are the 2560×1440 ones. We are still talking $500 plus and all those pixels likely also means a beefier video card setup which then needs a beefier PSU to power it and better cooling to keep it running a peak speed rather than Chernobyling your box.

Sure not as much a lot of uber video horsepower for GW2 but if you are blowing $500 and up on a monitor of that resolution and size, you aren’t just playing MMOs.

I love how you just ignored his question and threw some numbers at him. Everything you said my friend is irrelevant, I’m here researching this because I also have a 4k setup. I would like to see GW2 offer more support for those gamers that do invest in 4k. We want things bigger and better and it can make gamers leave their beloved games when they spend upwards of $500 on a monitor, or over $3000 to build a beast only to find that one of their favorite games doesn’t support it reasonably.

Your contribution to this article makes me shale my head, because I see someone who can’t afford UHD 4k and had to go out if his way to type a silly response that did nothing at all.

Behellagh.1468:

Honestly the hardcore gamer will have it but most won’t have more than HDTV level resolution for the next two years at least. As you pointed out, your monitor and video card together is over $1000. I think that you’ve been breathing the rarefied air of hardcore gamer for so long that you think that kind of investment is mainstream.

Top resolutions on the current Steam survey over 5%

1920×1080 – 33.31%
1366×768 – 25.96%
1600×900 – 7.68%
1280×1024 – 6.21%
1680×1050 – 5.64%
1440×900 – 5.54%

Sure there’s a lot of upward growth since just about everyone is at 2K res or less but it’s not coming soon. 2560×1440 I can believe but not the 4K 3840×2160 monitors.

And again…. you make me think about how silly you are. Who cares if 4k is a minority. Just because you’re broke and can’t afford high end gaming equipment, stop throwing out your stupid statistics to attempt to justify the game not supporting 4k. If it supported 4k it wouldn’t effect your mainstream economy class settings.

Just because you have money doesn’t mean ANet needs to assign someone to work on something that affects a minority of players. You assign resources to work that affects the most players first.

And since I’m not ANet, like most people posting in the forum, of course I couldn’t answer his question. But what I could do is explain how in software development resources are assigned when you have a large user base.

These 4k Resolution UI topics never go well.

The OP’s always have an incredible sense of entitlement…I wonder why.

Besides.

Absolutely nothing you have, Darkened.7015, will play this game at a decent FPS in 4k with better than mediocre graphics settings.

Search the forums. This has been beat to death for many months.

Bellelaugh does have an incessant need to poke at apparently every single 4k forum post.
She or he also pretends to have Anet’s protocols for programming delegation in demand.
Question to Behellagh :
Which Anet protocol claims they or any other MMO revises itself based upon some quasi /steam / hardware review ?
Long live 4k dreams and 64bit clients!

Maze.3825:

Bellelaugh does have an incessant need to poke at apparently every single 4k forum post.
She or he also pretends to have Anet’s protocols for programming delegation in demand.
Question to Behellagh :
Which Anet protocol claims they or any other MMO revises itself based upon some quasi /steam / hardware review ?
Long live 4k dreams and 64bit clients!

Behellagh responds to posts..Almost every post made in the techsupport section. Not just those dealing with 4k.

Belhellagh also responds with a manner that is appropriate in regards to all the dev interaction we’ve seen about 4k UI, which is none as far as I can remember. Though im not searching the forums for this worn out topic at the moment.

There are very few knowledgeable people who frequent the techsupport section, you’re insulting one of them.

It’s okay to not comment or just say " i don’t know"

Maze.3825:

It’s okay to not comment or just say " i don’t know"

So then the techsupport section would be filled with no answers and no useful information at all?

Ok.

At least with his/her replies, you’re getting some information from a person who has been a regular in this section since (before?) launch.

No. The information we shared would be less speculative. That’s all I meant.

Surveys of the massive amount of steam users is not speculation. It a market demographic. Anet is in that market.

Anet is not in the habit to catering to the <1%

End of story.

When we regulars get new information regarding this topic, we will inform randoms who come through the techsupport section of it.

Until then, this is the best info we have. From the only sources willing to comment on it(Not Devs).

Edit: The last time this topic was brought up and aggressively bumped/threatened anet salaries can be seen here and the user(thedog.7543) I’ve quoted in this post was one who aggressively bumped and threatened to “stop paying” anet…as you can see, he’s banned.

Now I know my monitor only does 1080p, but I’d love to play with some higher resolutions, because a higher resolution will always beat any anti-aliasing hands down. But with the crappy support for interface sizes, ignoring the fact that the interface is garbage in comparison to other titles, what can we do?

Your 1080p monitor should be able to output at least 1440p with Nvidia DSR. 1440p starts to get small though.

That being said, I’m not in disagreement with the need for larger interface. I’m in total disagreement with the way the request have been presented.

Highest DSR resolution I can go before text is too small is 2880×1620. Looks great but there should be an option to increase UI size as much as you want.

Cmon Anet….this is such an easy fix.

I do hope that GW2 will get optimised for Ultra HD and 4K resolutions to attract more players, provide better interface etc.

But honestly I don’t think I will upgrade to 4K anytime soon.
24" display with 1920×1080
or 26" with 1920×1200 is more then enough for me.
And like someone else pointed out fact about upgrading PC to run on 4K.

Most gamers have PC rig worth below 1000$, and I don’t think you can run GW2 on 4K with high/ultra settings at 60 FPS.

ShinyDay.5349:

I do hope that GW2 will get optimised for Ultra HD and 4K resolutions to attract more players, provide better interface etc.

But honestly I don’t think I will upgrade to 4K anytime soon.
24" display with 1920×1080
or 26" with 1920×1200 is more then enough for me.
And like someone else pointed out fact about upgrading PC to run on 4K.

Most gamers have PC rig worth below 1000$, and I don’t think you can run GW2 on 4K with high/ultra settings at 60 FPS.

GW2 @ high/ultra settings at 4K resolution with 60FPS is easily achievable with 980Ti, TITAN X, etc.

ShinyDay.5349:

And like someone else pointed out fact about upgrading PC to run on 4K.

Most gamers have PC rig worth below 1000$, and I don’t think you can run GW2 on 4K with high/ultra settings at 60 FPS.

God Of Fissures.8627:

GW2 @ high/ultra settings at 4K resolution with 60FPS is easily achievable with 980Ti, TITAN X, etc.

The Titan X is a $1000 GPU and the cheapest 980 Ti is $570. Put that together with a CPU that wont bottleneck the crap out of the video card and create a bottleneck on the thread handling Draw Calls and you’re getting very close to a +$1000 PC already.

They will adjust for the 4k HUB before to long, its just very very low on their priority list. Cause as mentioned before, 4k is very small in terms of exposure. Not very many players actually have that kind of setup. Let alone the GPU to drive games at that resolution.

God Of Fissures.8627:

GW2 @ high/ultra settings at 4K resolution with 60FPS is easily achievable with 980Ti, TITAN X, etc.

Its also achievable with a single 290, 290x, 390, 390x, 295×2 and the Fury, FuryX, Fury NANO all cheaper then the 980Ti/TitanX.

sirsquishy.8531:

God Of Fissures.8627:

GW2 @ high/ultra settings at 4K resolution with 60FPS is easily achievable with 980Ti, TITAN X, etc.

Its also achievable with a single 290, 290x, 390, 390x, 295×2 and the Fury, FuryX, Fury NANO all cheaper then the 980Ti/TitanX.

So basically what you’re trying to say is, Nvidia is ripping off it’s customers. I actually have to agree there.

Loli Ruri.8307:

sirsquishy.8531:

God Of Fissures.8627:

GW2 @ high/ultra settings at 4K resolution with 60FPS is easily achievable with 980Ti, TITAN X, etc.

Its also achievable with a single 290, 290x, 390, 390x, 295×2 and the Fury, FuryX, Fury NANO all cheaper then the 980Ti/TitanX.

So basically what you’re trying to say is, Nvidia is ripping off it’s customers. I actually have to agree there.

its not Nvidia’s fault, its the press’s fault. But Benchmarks pretty much tell the story

The issue with GW2 over all is its still DX9 based. So no matter what GPU you buy, the CPU is always going to be the limiting factor.

IMHO, for 4k there is no real point to buy anything more then a Fury, 390x, or 980 right now(Sub 500~ Range). Or just wait for Pascal to release and see what new features come from HBM 2.0.

My monitor is only 1080 but I’m still frustrated the UI can’t be changed/moved at all.

Luvok.5697:

My monitor is only 1080 but I’m still frustrated the UI can’t be changed/moved at all.

Yes! It’s certainly too rigid for my tastes too.