Guild Wars 2

I got a question regarding AMD, I got a gift from my parents about 6 months ago which was an AMD FX 6300 and GTX 750 TI

I know that the game is not optimize for AMD, I dont know why, and is there something A-Net can do, or would it require them to…idk unbound the whole program which might take years?

By the way, for people that might request me to buy a new system:
Kind of living in a ghetto, it was literally games or going out with “friends” I chose gaming, and I wanted gaming, and this is my first real setup after like 10+ years of gaming on bad computers, mostly just watched other game on youtube because it felt like the same. It is really not a new story and a lot of gamers out there have the same problem……All in all, I wont get a new setup for quiet a while, just want to know if there will be done something about it or if I will have to play with some lagg for a while

well neither cpu or that gpu greatest in the world I’m not sure if my 8 core trick will work on your 6 core you could try it wont hurt nothing if it helps you’ll see noticeable fps increase if it dosnt it will stay the same or drop.

But i pass info to ya anyways. Ok once in game pull up your task manager ctrl alt delete go to gw2.exe right click goto affinity uncheck cores 3 and 6 make sure others are checked I know may be like aint 6 core better than 4? for games least amd cpus noooooo because of how it threads. games only use 1 or 2 threads why intel does better what this tweak does is lets amd cpus give better performance to single threads
I am on 8 core I turn off cores 2 4 6 8 (in task manager it be 1 3 5 7 just in case another amd 8 core user tries this) I gain massive fps in gw2 and gtav i gained 30 fps in gatav with this trick about 15 in gw2 also the fps stays more stable.
I have one game does better with 5 cores rather than 8 or 4 that was shadow of mordor and in mafia 2 game benchmarks better under 8 core than 4 or 5 cores (by bout 2-3 fps) i know wild stuff half time i dont even know why I just know what works best and what doesn’t.
Also turn off vsync and use frame limiter i gain more stable slightly higher fps with vsync off in gw2 now you never stated screen res thats going effect things to also your settings alot you didnt state so until you do i can’t offer up any more tweaks or advice.

Anyways if what i did give you didnt help just go back in task manage recheck the unchecked or restart game either way same outcome.

You also could try using high priority ive been using all my games on that for about a year now i see some noticeable fps increase from it and stability dont use real time may cause serious wear n tear on your hardware and or cause other issues.

There is no “optimized for AMD”, that’s an often repeated myth. People say that when they are asking for a game to be better multi-threaded for CPUs that have lots of cores, such as AMD FX 6 and 8 core* models.

AMD with the FX series tried to provide performance for highly threaded tasks by throwing more slower cores at it versus Intel’s fewer faster cores. Fine for highly threaded tasks, lousy when a task only uses a few.

That FX cpu is 5 years old and they already had lower multithread performance than equally old i5 series (along with crippled singlethread). There is nothing Anet can do to make it faster, sorry.

TEKnowledgy.1760:

well neither cpu or that gpu greatest in the world I’m not sure if my 8 core trick will work on your 6 core you could try it wont hurt nothing if it helps you’ll see noticeable fps increase if it dosnt it will stay the same or drop.

But i pass info to ya anyways. Ok once in game pull up your task manager ctrl alt delete go to gw2.exe right click goto affinity uncheck cores 3 and 6 make sure others are checked I know may be like aint 6 core better than 4? for games least amd cpus noooooo because of how it threads. games only use 1 or 2 threads why intel does better what this tweak does is lets amd cpus give better performance to single threads
I am on 8 core I turn off cores 2 4 6 8 (in task manager it be 1 3 5 7 just in case another amd 8 core user tries this) I gain massive fps in gw2 and gtav i gained 30 fps in gatav with this trick about 15 in gw2 also the fps stays more stable.
I have one game does better with 5 cores rather than 8 or 4 that was shadow of mordor and in mafia 2 game benchmarks better under 8 core than 4 or 5 cores (by bout 2-3 fps) i know wild stuff half time i dont even know why I just know what works best and what doesn’t.
Also turn off vsync and use frame limiter i gain more stable slightly higher fps with vsync off in gw2 now you never stated screen res thats going effect things to also your settings alot you didnt state so until you do i can’t offer up any more tweaks or advice.

Anyways if what i did give you didnt help just go back in task manage recheck the unchecked or restart game either way same outcome.

You also could try using high priority ive been using all my games on that for about a year now i see some noticeable fps increase from it and stability dont use real time may cause serious wear n tear on your hardware and or cause other issues.

Thank you, It actually boosted it up a couple of fps, but I am using a 1680×1050 screen

and thank you everyone else for explanation, a shame that I can not run it on a good setting, but thats how it is

zengara.8301:

Thank you, It actually boosted it up a couple of fps, but I am using a 1680×1050 screen

Awesome glad it help thank you for letting me know it did because I had been curious about this tweak on 6 cores but never had a chance to personally test it might help me help others with this tweak in the future.

Now you can always mess round them affinities try different set ups might find one works better than even what i suggested.

I’d tell you drop screen res but I used that res on my old pc dual core amd and a old rump radeon 4670HD back in early gw2 days and lowering res never really helped much but you could try if you are willing also game settings some things in there that are big fps stealers.

Heres a post I gave to a guy nearly on same system setup as me shows settings max and then tweaked for best performance that doesn’t kill quality to much and still looks pretty good might could try few these combos and increase a bit more. Screen shots at bottom my post compare them tell don’t degrade much at all.
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/support/18-25-FPS-Non-Crowded-Towns/first#post6485021

Other wise really isn’t a whole lot us amd users can do just how its been since 6-8 cores came out up until bulldozer architecture amd rocked intels socks off lmao. Under most apps non-game related 6 and 8 core amds owns intel except for some i7 cpu configurations.

How it goes i reckon i hear the new AMD Ryzens (aka zen tech) that came out recently got nice boost for gaming but that might just be hype never tested myself so can’t say for certain.

But as those other fellaz said not really much anet can do really just way they designed the game engine it’s more cpu bound relies heavy on single thread operations and amds cpus are 1 thread per core where correct me if im wrong intels are like more cores per thread. So makes them run single threads alot better and faster.

Just out of curiosity, what do you people think about buying a cooler on the thing and overclocking? Cooler wouldn’t be too expensive though I guess we’d need a good PSU too.

A better cooler would be like $20 (212 Evo, which is what I use. 4.5GHz@1.32V with good temps, ~70-72 tops in games). Overclocking would definitely help, and is the cheapest way to get better performance, but the end result still won’t be great. Just a bit better

Fermi.2409:

A better cooler would be like $20 (212 Evo, which is what I use. 4.5GHz@1.32V with good temps, ~70-72 tops in games). Overclocking would definitely help, and is the cheapest way to get better performance, but the end result still won’t be great. Just a bit better

thats bad temps for amd lol for intel i can not say

ArchonWing.9480:

Just out of curiosity, what do you people think about buying a cooler on the thing and overclocking? Cooler wouldn’t be too expensive though I guess we’d need a good PSU too.

that really wouldnt help his 6 core much on gw2 but turning off turbo and putting at max always, does help it. Keeps it from turboing and de-turboing in game. This is why i did that with mine. It would throttle up and my fps would increase then it throttle down and cause massive fps loss.
So i disabled my turbo, OC’ed it with multiplyer of 20 (no higher than turbo took it so safe OC) left it 4ghz always.
Also overclocking has alot to do with the silicon RNG some overclock good some don’t. Not sure if thats an amd thing only or both intel and amd silicon RNG.
I use rng term so peiople would understand its a gamble on it a random factor in play with OCing.
proper phrasing in the OC world is silicon lottery

TEKnowledgy.1760:

Fermi.2409:

A better cooler would be like $20 (212 Evo, which is what I use. 4.5GHz@1.32V with good temps, ~70-72 tops in games). Overclocking would definitely help, and is the cheapest way to get better performance, but the end result still won’t be great. Just a bit better

thats bad temps for amd lol for intel i can not say

Meh. “Good” might be overstating it a bit but it’s not at a point where it’s worrisome/a problem

Fermi.2409:

TEKnowledgy.1760:

Fermi.2409:

A better cooler would be like $20 (212 Evo, which is what I use. 4.5GHz@1.32V with good temps, ~70-72 tops in games). Overclocking would definitely help, and is the cheapest way to get better performance, but the end result still won’t be great. Just a bit better

thats bad temps for amd lol for intel i can not say

Meh. “Good” might be overstating it a bit but it’s not at a point where it’s worrisome/a problem

Guessing you’ve never done much research into the safe operating temps of an amd fx cpu be it 6 or 8. Belive me 70c is worry some it wont live very long for you at temps like that sounds like you need to be going water if you are hitting them temps. But do what ya wish your hardware not mine.

TEKnowledgy.1760:

Fermi.2409:

TEKnowledgy.1760:

Fermi.2409:

A better cooler would be like $20 (212 Evo, which is what I use. 4.5GHz@1.32V with good temps, ~70-72 tops in games). Overclocking would definitely help, and is the cheapest way to get better performance, but the end result still won’t be great. Just a bit better

thats bad temps for amd lol for intel i can not say

Meh. “Good” might be overstating it a bit but it’s not at a point where it’s worrisome/a problem

Guessing you’ve never done much research into the safe operating temps of an amd fx cpu be it 6 or 8. Belive me 70c is worry some it wont live very long for you at temps like that sounds like you need to be going water if you are hitting them temps. But do what ya wish your hardware not mine.

Do you have a reference for that, tek? As far as I can tell, AMD don’t publish any official specification of temperature ranges for their FX class CPUs.

https://community.amd.com/message/2656451#comment-2656451

Though there is quite the diffrence between peak tempature and always staying at it

ArchonWing.9480:

https://community.amd.com/message/2656451#comment-2656451

Though there is quite the diffrence between peak tempature and always staying at it

Perfect, thanks! That’s super useful to know, and says that we should try and stay at or below 60 degrees C for sustained use.

6 core is bit higher 70c ceiling max anything after not advised 8 core is 62c most prefer to keep 5c from max im bout same way I prefer bout 10c from max as if i did blow it up i be kinda screwed as I dont make enough money in RL to really buy another (least not at moment) so I prefer to be careful. now on amd cpus there is package temps and then there is socket temps.

With 8 core on socket max advised is 70c and on package 62c amd fx series doesn’t actually have a thermal sensor, they have an algorithm that calculates temps so its most likely 5c-20c off actual temp, you see this alot with 8 core im not sure about a 6 core fx as i don’t own one.

When the temps are idle, mine will state 10c on package we all know that is impossible on air as it can’t drop lower than room temp. But once it gets under load it starts becoming more accurate reading, usually once hits round 30c starts calculating more accurately. The temp one must pay most attention to is package as thats your cores themselves and socket is the whole cpu its important but least of the worry.

Now ask for references all day long but experience has alot to also do with it I’ve been using amd cpus since 2003 i know a great deal about them. every PC i’ve owned built by hand myself. I have delved deep into research on these fx series as I built my current pc around it.
So not trying be a know it all just trying help people out with what i do know. wasn’t a forum guideline share your knowledge? That’s all I’m trying to do. i was actually going to give some links this morning but it slipped my old mind as i had lotta stuff to do this morning. So i apologize for that.

ArchonWing.9480:

https://community.amd.com/message/2656451#comment-2656451

Though there is quite the diffrence between peak tempature and always staying at it

thanks for least putting up a link to back my statement.
You correct there is a difference but if you read what he said while gaming he is hitting 70-72. He doesn’t state for how long but if he is in game then I am going to automaticly assume it is staying above safe temps. he never mentioned if it’s socket or package though either socket is lil more forgiving but if its that package that high and he keeps abusing it like that just killing it off little quicker than a non-overclocker or someone with safer temps.

But in end of the day it’s his hardware he fries the poor thing that be on him can’t say nobody gave him heads up on it now lol. Its always wise to research max safe temps before you overclock, be it cpu or gpu.

Personally, i don’t recommend OP to OC for primary reason he states he don’t have the money to build a new rig.
If he don’t know what he doing bye bye pc ya know? So I never recommend OCing as a solution. Really wouldn’t help as much as you think it would not on this game 500mhz might get him 10 fps maybe 20 but is it worth it when you can’t replace it? i don’t think it is I’d rather lag-along then burn out the only PC I had or could afford wouldn’t you?
Also his mobo has to support OCing before he even could anyways. Some motherboards don’t even support it. Pretty common with prebuilt pc but most of us custom builders have a board that supports it.

Anyways I’m gonna bow out of this thread as we are going some what off topic really not much more I can offer OP to safely help his PC run GW2 better. Only OC I’d rec would be no turbo and set it to turbo speed always least thats not passing its normal functionality. Would be stable and safe most likely, but like I said mobo don’t support it then not helping him anyways. take care & happy gaming

In terms of burning out the chip 70 is nowhere near the limit. Voltage is a bigger concern and as long as you’re <1.4V it’s all good.

Anyways none of this is really relevant to the thread, but OCing is definitely something to think about.

The way to optimize AMD is to buy a Ryzen. There isn’t much hope for the FX series single threaded performance.

That doesn’t help since op plans to keep that comp