Guild Wars 2

Hey,

I’d like to warn about some CPU issues I’ve been in.

Depending on the frame rate set in the graphic options, there can be problems with your CPU overheating insanely.

In my case, with a pretty decent setup (see below), when the frame rate is set on “Limited to 30”, the game works just fine (everything else is on the highest setup).

But as soon as i set the frame rate on “Limited to 60” or “Unlimited”, my CPU starts overheating (75°C ++++ / I’ve never let the game push the temperature further but I’m pretty sure it would top around 90°C or even more).

My PC configuration is:
- Windows 7 Pro 64bit
- Intel i5 2550k 3.4GHz
- Gainward GeForce GTX 570 “Golden Sample” Goes Like Hell 1280MB
- Crucial Ballistix Tactical 2×4Go 1866MHz/CAS9
(I have updated all my drivers trying to fix this issue up)

For now, the game is running pretty fine with a 30 FPS rate. But It’s kind of weird that I can’t set up any other frame rate with this configuration without risking burning my CPU.

Hope you can fix this. Thanks.

Are you using the stock intel heatsink?

Open your case and blow all the dust between the headsink of the cpu, its probably full of dust. Look closely between the fins of the headsink not only the fan above it.

I have a 6970 amd and have this issue no dust what so ever i have a gelid icy on mine and this game when 60 or unlimited is enabled cooks my card 80°C is bad only game that does it

I have the same problem with mine, what I found to fix it is to use your advanced power options in windows to throttle the CPU to 89% or lower. Once I did this I was able to see my CPU Heat go no higher than 60 Degrees, and had so little effect on the game that I have yet to really notice it.

I believe this would be a case of the drivers not properly auto adjusting the fan speed of the video card. Not the first time I hear stuff like this. Safer to use an overclock utility to manually set up the fan speed kick in stages.

Also a GTX 570 30fps ? I don’t think that is very accurate 570 you should be getting at least 50 – 60 constant, but this can be for now be blamed on the overheating issue which in fact would be your GPU not your CPU. CPU will overheat doing anything intensive if this was the case.

GPU on other hand overheating will severely kill your FPS rates and cause stutters while playing. At this time I would like to mention that 75c is pretty average running temp for that card when under load. I would only be concerned if it starts creeping above 83c.

EDIT:
I am more worried about the fact the card is playing at 30 fps most of the time than I am about that heat, for instance my current system still uses a 285GTX and I get 30-60 fps on mostly low gfx settings.

That is not going be the case with my new system with is has a 670GTX 2gb factory overclocked at 1085mhz on the core its almost as fast as a 680 but $100 something cheaper and I could probably overclock that further to be at around 1120mhz.

^- I think his problem lies with the high temps for CPU not GPU.

Alpha Dragon.4576:

^- I think his problem lies with the high temps for CPU not GPU.

A CPU temp of 75 is absolutely nothing to worry about a CPU will really only start to display any signs of heat wear at about 90c even then the system should if factory set or professionally installed/ correctly configured bios will most certainly and forcefully power off the system at around 80c or 90c well before the danger zone of 100 + Cecilius.

It is perfectly acceptable for a CPU to run at a temperature between 50c – 75c. I have ran systems with 80c – 85c for entire months – a year without fail when extreme overclocking.

But if he has not overclocked his system it would be a safe guess to say that the CPU heat-sink might be clogged with dust resulting in the 10c heat rise.

With that said I am pretty confident in my conclusion that it is the GPU not his CPU.

The absolute best solution for CPU temp issues, is to get a new cooler, they are not very hard to install, and there are multiple videos and manuals showing how to do it, just make sure to get one that fits in your case and supports your CPU socket.

GPUs can generally handle high temps very well, the GTX 570 have a max temp at 97c, so as long as it stays under 90c, you shouldn’t have to worry.
As for Korsin’s 6970, I don’t really know as I’m not familiar with AMD GPUs, and they don’t seem to list max temp in their technical specifications.
Getting lower temps on GPUs can easily be achieved by setting a custom fan profile with software like Gainward ExperTool, EVGA Precision X, MSI Afterburner and whatever equivalent you have for AMD.

I had this issue during the first BWE, my tempature would rise to nearly shut down temperature (at one point it rose to 99C and at 100C my PC goes to take a nap to cool off). I gave my PC a thorough cleaning two weeks later, blowing out all the dust out of the fans and heat sinks. During the next BWE my temp would rise to 60-65C max. I’m not sure if ANet had made changes to be less CPU extensive (as far as I could see that CPU was still heavily taxed) or whether it was just the dust. I suggest you first try cleaning it out. It might help.

i have the same problem, now everything is on highest setting and max fps as 30 and does not overheat anymore =)

Don’t use the stock intel heatsink, it’s bad.

Thing is sometimes the GPU will throttle to 80%+ load and at the same time the CPU will work a much lower load. That has the effect of good FPS.

But there are aplenty of times when the GPU will drop to 50% load or so and the CPU will work at 80% or higher. Meaning more heat for CPU and much much lower FPS.

Still, a 2550k working at stock speed should not get that high temperature, UNLESS your tower box is of low quality with no additional fans for correct air cycling and at the same time you are leaving to a rather warm country , for example Greece.

In Greece during the July we were experiencing temperatures around 40c, inside home, under shade. Outside you would get fried with more than 45c.

These extreme temperatures will strain any cooling configuration, be sure of that.

I find this very strange.

I have the i5-3450 3.1 Ghz + HD 6870 (8Gb DDR3 1600 Corsair Vengeance + etc).

I only have the Intel stock cooler and I’ve been monitoring temperatures and the CPU has not gone about 40C and the GPU hasn’t been seen above 50C yet – and I have lots of programs open while playing GW2.

I have almost everything (all but reflections, which are on terrain + sky) at the highest settings and I get a constant 60fps – I’m sure it dips during big fights, but it’s never gotten choppy enough for me to notice.

I see a lot of people with more powerful systems than my own getting much lower fps.

I’d honestly check for dust or a poor power supply causing issues. Otherwise, I just find it very strange that it seems like many people with better hardware are getting much worse performance than I am.

The stock Intel (or AMD too) coolers are utter crap. Get yourself a good third party fan and you’ll be safe.

Korsin.4508:

I have a 6970 amd and have this issue no dust what so ever i have a gelid icy on mine and this game when 60 or unlimited is enabled cooks my card 80°C is bad only game that does it

That temperature is actually normal for a videocard, 90°C is still safe for a videocard. And gw2 is a very heavy game, but if you want lower temps you can manually set the fan speed a bit higher in your graphics driver. If a cpu should hit 80°C then you have a problem, but no problem for videocard.

Matthias.1065:

Korsin.4508:

I have a 6970 amd and have this issue no dust what so ever i have a gelid icy on mine and this game when 60 or unlimited is enabled cooks my card 80°C is bad only game that does it

That temperature is actually normal for a videocard, 90°C is still safe for a videocard. And gw2 is a very heavy game, but if you want lower temps you can manually set the fan speed a bit higher in your graphics driver. If a cpu should hit 80°C then you have a problem, but no problem for videocard.

With all respect Matthias, it should be the other way around.
The GPU should NEVER hit temps of 90°C, it would cease to function otherwise in a few months. The i7-processors on the other hand run a lot hotter than the i5 ones.
Intel said that 90 degrees is still safe, but I personally prefer to keep it below the 90’s to keep it safe.

Laifon.4329:

Matthias.1065:

Korsin.4508:

I have a 6970 amd and have this issue no dust what so ever i have a gelid icy on mine and this game when 60 or unlimited is enabled cooks my card 80°C is bad only game that does it

That temperature is actually normal for a videocard, 90°C is still safe for a videocard. And gw2 is a very heavy game, but if you want lower temps you can manually set the fan speed a bit higher in your graphics driver. If a cpu should hit 80°C then you have a problem, but no problem for videocard.

With all respect Matthias, it should be the other way around.
The GPU should NEVER hit temps of 90°C, it would cease to function otherwise in a few months. The i7-processors on the other hand run a lot hotter than the i5 ones.
Intel said that 90 degrees is still safe, but I personally prefer to keep it below the 90’s to keep it safe.

With all due respect too, Matthias is right.
GPUs can handle (aka survive) way higher temperatures than CPUs.
But 90°C is not a good temperature for either anyway.

The issues posted here can happen with any 3D graphics combat related game such as a Massively Multi-playing Online Role Playing Game (MMORPG). I experienced this issue in another popular MMORPG and that game would crash an average of 25 times daily (no exaggeration) and the computer would crash and reboot about twice daily. Following the tech support suggestions, I downloaded a program called “CPUID HWMonitor”. This software displays the temperature levels of the CPU and graphics card. Most important are the temperature levels of the CPU. According to the other MMORPG’s tech support, the levels should not go above 60C. I was experiencing above 75C on all CPU cores during heavy PvP combat with many players.

Knowing my issue was temperature related, as a test, I removed the side panels to my desktop computer because the only fan intake was at the back of the computer case. The exhaust (if you will) was at the top where the radiator was blowing out relatively warm air. This was a liquid cooled system with an Intel 990x CPU and double nVidia GTX 590’s graphics cards in SLI and a 1350 watt thermaltake power supply. The case was the Corsair 800D. When I removed the side panels I noticed there was a cover over a fan inside. There was also a cover over the back of where the CPU was. I carefully removed both of those covers as well.

The result: Not a single computer or game crash in over TWO MONTHS! Remember, I was getting 25 game crashes a DAY! No exaggeration! I would get a game crash, log back in, pick up where I left off and continue on. If the computer crashed I would reboot, log back in and keep going. Now I have not a single game or computer crash and my CPU temperature levels have never exceeded 50C.

Removing the computer side panels may not be the ideal solution because of dust, but it resolved the game and computer crashes and the system works flawlessly. My opinion is that the design of the Corsair 800D computer case is flawed. It does not have enough air flow within the case even though the internal motherboard and CPU maybe configured with a liquid cooled system.

Check mobo bios update.

I had this issue with my AMD fx 8150 with a Noctua DH14 cooler and Gigabyte Windforce 7950. CPU runs low 30’s oc’ed. This game would cause CPU to go high 50’s ( when I was watching, not sure how hight it actually got ) and would crash my system.

I ended up updating my bios because because one I had never checked and two they had a “stability” update. This ended up fixing my issue and it runs low 40’s now playing.

My GPU on my new computer runs at 47 degrees Celsius with GW2, my CPU never goes above 43 Degrees Celsius. I am using the stock cooling fans, with an ATI A10, and Radeon 7660. I average about 45-57 FPS on Med-High Settings with Shadows off.

I’d just like to jump and say i’m also seeing exactly the same thing as the OP, i’m getting much worse FPS than i used to 45 in Lions Arch and my CPU is getting really hot.. about 62 degrees C which is pretty hot..i’m using a cooler master 212+ heat cooler

Core i5 2500 3.3mhz
Asus P8Z68-V/GEN3 Mobo
16 gb DDR3 Ram
GTX 560 Ti

lol 62c is NOT hot :P

You dont have to worry about CPU temps with Intel till u get over 85c. (Full Load)

Chances are since ur running a 4core 4 thread CPU, its getting high utilization so 62c is deffinatly not a bad Temperature.

If u dont like the temps ..turn up the speed of the fan on the 212 if u got it on a constant set speed.
If u have it running on a adjusting fan curve, then simply edit the curve. Use the Asus AI Suit ..go to tools …FanXpert+..and adjust it to how u want.