Guild Wars 2

I’m curious, whats a good FPS to target for this game? I know bigger is better, but with a limited machine, I know I can’t go full on best everything, without dropping into the single digits.
At lowest settings, I get up into the high 50s, low 60s.
I am planning on starting at highest and working my way down. But not sure what that “sweet spot” would be.
I don’t do WvW much, and when I do, I don’t do the zerg thing. I stick mainly to PvE, and some world bosses. (i.e Teq, VW, Breach, etc.)

Thanks!!

60fps without dips is always the goal, anything less and you may as well buy a console.

Although GW2 runs perfect fine with 30

Tijgertje.7461:

Although GW2 runs perfect fine with 30

Because that’s what you’re used to, for me I’m used to 60fps locked in every game I play, so when Gw2 drops to 25-30fps during world bosses it becomes extremely choppy and distracting.

My FPS can change from 12 to 200 .. so a single number doesn’t say much if we
don’t know where / in what situation you have that number.

The main frame killers (imho) however are :
- shadows – set them to minumum
- character modell limit / detail
- reflections – set them to sky and terrain

Well I ran a set of fractals last night with 1 step lower than maximum with ~20 FPS. Had a few lags, but took a couple of options down 1 step further (shadows, reflections, and model limit) and was fine. After that I was average ~28 FPS during Jade Maw. Havent tested it in open world, or bigger bosses yet.

It completely depends on your perception really. Most People are very ‘OK’ with 30FPS across the board. where as some people can tell the difference between 30-60FPS quite easily.

This game has a huge limitation in the API/Coding that limits the actual FPS, no matter how good your system is. And thats bound to the max performance of any ONE of your CPU cores. The higher the single thread performance, the higher your FPS is going to be. No matter the circumstances.

But that being said, the more character players on the screen the lower your FPS is just going to be. So your best bet is to find out if 30, even sub30, FPS is going to work for you or not. Then go from there.

On my systems (My signature for their specs) I get 100+ FPS on max settings for general PVE. For WvW, World Bosses, and the like They both get 32FPS to 45 FPS during combat. For select Bosses like Savnir Shaman, Modniir (The elemental Hands especially) They both drop between 12-18 seconds until all the Minis are hidden (takes about 90seconds on average for me) then they both get 24-28 FPS.

And the i7-4790K is the fastest single threaded CPU on the market. So that’s the best you can expect with what is out there right now.

sirsquishy.8531:

It completely depends on your perception really. Most People are very ‘OK’ with 30FPS across the board. where as some people can tell the difference between 30-60FPS quite easily.

This game has a huge limitation in the API/Coding that limits the actual FPS, no matter how good your system is. And thats bound to the max performance of any ONE of your CPU cores. The higher the single thread performance, the higher your FPS is going to be. No matter the circumstances.

But that being said, the more character players on the screen the lower your FPS is just going to be. So your best bet is to find out if 30, even sub30, FPS is going to work for you or not. Then go from there.

On my systems (My signature for their specs) I get 100+ FPS on max settings for general PVE. For WvW, World Bosses, and the like They both get 32FPS to 45 FPS during combat. For select Bosses like Savnir Shaman, Modniir (The elemental Hands especially) They both drop between 12-18 seconds until all the Minis are hidden (takes about 90seconds on average for me) then they both get 24-28 FPS.

And the i7-4790K is the fastest single threaded CPU on the market. So that’s the best you can expect with what is out there right now.

What are you clocked at? I’m running an i5 3570k @ 4.5GHz and get a similar experience to you. I’d kill for 60fps without dips during world bosses, but apparently it’s not possible regardless of hardware.

I clock at 4.6ghz mainly. I can clock at 5ghz, but the temps for the voltage range is just to high for a program like GW2 IMHO.

on my i7 system, my max FPS is 145FPS in Queensdale like areas.

My max FPS with my I5 2500k

sirsquishy.8531:

I clock at 4.6ghz mainly. I can clock at 5ghz, but the temps for the voltage range is just to high for a program like GW2 IMHO.

on my i7 system, my max FPS is 145FPS in Queensdale like areas.

Cheers, I just wanted to make sure you weren’t one of those people who buy a K processor and leaves it at stock, considering how close our performance is, although the difference between even a 2500k and 4790k isn’t huge for gaming (0 – 10fps depending on the game). It seems the 2500k and 3570k will live on forever. I’ve had my 3570k @ 4.5GHz for awhile and I’m seeing 63c max on the highest core after playing for several hours, so I could squeeze 4.6GHz out of it, but GW2 is literally the only game I play that doesn’t maintain 60fps in every situation so I don’t feel it’s worth it.

Beldin.5498:

My max FPS with my I5 2500k

Good job…your looking at a glorified wall. I get 300FPS looking at the sky or walls.

MrH.2591:

sirsquishy.8531:

I clock at 4.6ghz mainly. I can clock at 5ghz, but the temps for the voltage range is just to high for a program like GW2 IMHO.

on my i7 system, my max FPS is 145FPS in Queensdale like areas.

Cheers, I just wanted to make sure you weren’t one of those people who buy a K processor and leaves it at stock, considering how close our performance is, although the difference between even a 2500k and 4790k isn’t huge for gaming (0 – 10fps depending on the game). It seems the 2500k and 3570k will live on forever. I’ve had my 3570k @ 4.5GHz for awhile and I’m seeing 63c max on the highest core after playing for several hours, so I could squeeze 4.6GHz out of it, but GW2 is literally the only game I play that doesn’t maintain 60fps in every situation so I don’t feel it’s worth it.

CPU performance is tapering off in the silicon race. I would wager that we dont get MORE then 10% between Haswell and Skylake, and thats on multicore performance. I think we are at a peak for single core performance now. So a 2500K/2600K will still be good until they stop making silicon based CPUs.

sirsquishy.8531:

MrH.2591:

sirsquishy.8531:

I clock at 4.6ghz mainly. I can clock at 5ghz, but the temps for the voltage range is just to high for a program like GW2 IMHO.

on my i7 system, my max FPS is 145FPS in Queensdale like areas.

Cheers, I just wanted to make sure you weren’t one of those people who buy a K processor and leaves it at stock, considering how close our performance is, although the difference between even a 2500k and 4790k isn’t huge for gaming (0 – 10fps depending on the game). It seems the 2500k and 3570k will live on forever. I’ve had my 3570k @ 4.5GHz for awhile and I’m seeing 63c max on the highest core after playing for several hours, so I could squeeze 4.6GHz out of it, but GW2 is literally the only game I play that doesn’t maintain 60fps in every situation so I don’t feel it’s worth it.

CPU performance is tapering off in the silicon race. I would wager that we dont get MORE then 10% between Haswell and Skylake, and thats on multicore performance. I think we are at a peak for single core performance now. So a 2500K/2600K will still be good until they stop making silicon based CPUs.

When you consider the small bumps we’ve been getting for years now I’d say you’re right, it’s crazy to think a CPU from 2011 is still offering nearly the same performance as one from 2015, for gaming at least. I usually do a full rebuild every 4 years or so, hopefully by then we’ll have something more substantial. Although in GW2s case it doesn’t matter what hardware you through at it because of that pesky DX9 engine. I’m personally really excited for DX12 and Windows 10 in general, as someone who stuck with Windows 7 I’m looking forward to a change, and not just change for changes sake, it actually looks great.

MrH.2591:

sirsquishy.8531:

MrH.2591:

sirsquishy.8531:

I clock at 4.6ghz mainly. I can clock at 5ghz, but the temps for the voltage range is just to high for a program like GW2 IMHO.

on my i7 system, my max FPS is 145FPS in Queensdale like areas.

Cheers, I just wanted to make sure you weren’t one of those people who buy a K processor and leaves it at stock, considering how close our performance is, although the difference between even a 2500k and 4790k isn’t huge for gaming (0 – 10fps depending on the game). It seems the 2500k and 3570k will live on forever. I’ve had my 3570k @ 4.5GHz for awhile and I’m seeing 63c max on the highest core after playing for several hours, so I could squeeze 4.6GHz out of it, but GW2 is literally the only game I play that doesn’t maintain 60fps in every situation so I don’t feel it’s worth it.

CPU performance is tapering off in the silicon race. I would wager that we dont get MORE then 10% between Haswell and Skylake, and thats on multicore performance. I think we are at a peak for single core performance now. So a 2500K/2600K will still be good until they stop making silicon based CPUs.

When you consider the small bumps we’ve been getting for years now I’d say you’re right, it’s crazy to think a CPU from 2011 is still offering nearly the same performance as one from 2015, for gaming at least. I usually do a full rebuild every 4 years or so, hopefully by then we’ll have something more substantial. Although in GW2s case it doesn’t matter what hardware you through at it because of that pesky DX9 engine. I’m personally really excited for DX12 and Windows 10 in general, as someone who stuck with Windows 7 I’m looking forward to a change, and not just change for changes sake, it actually looks great.

You and me both, but for me win10 is a rebuild. My OS is soo custom its WEEKS of work to change the OS. Which is the main reason i did not go to 8 or 8.1. After I test 10 out on my laptop ill probably switch my desktop over as well.

But DX12 will only really improve for games that use it. GW2 being DX9, It wont see much benefit to the change, if any at all.

sirsquishy.8531:

MrH.2591:

sirsquishy.8531:

MrH.2591:

sirsquishy.8531:

I clock at 4.6ghz mainly. I can clock at 5ghz, but the temps for the voltage range is just to high for a program like GW2 IMHO.

on my i7 system, my max FPS is 145FPS in Queensdale like areas.

Cheers, I just wanted to make sure you weren’t one of those people who buy a K processor and leaves it at stock, considering how close our performance is, although the difference between even a 2500k and 4790k isn’t huge for gaming (0 – 10fps depending on the game). It seems the 2500k and 3570k will live on forever. I’ve had my 3570k @ 4.5GHz for awhile and I’m seeing 63c max on the highest core after playing for several hours, so I could squeeze 4.6GHz out of it, but GW2 is literally the only game I play that doesn’t maintain 60fps in every situation so I don’t feel it’s worth it.

CPU performance is tapering off in the silicon race. I would wager that we dont get MORE then 10% between Haswell and Skylake, and thats on multicore performance. I think we are at a peak for single core performance now. So a 2500K/2600K will still be good until they stop making silicon based CPUs.

When you consider the small bumps we’ve been getting for years now I’d say you’re right, it’s crazy to think a CPU from 2011 is still offering nearly the same performance as one from 2015, for gaming at least. I usually do a full rebuild every 4 years or so, hopefully by then we’ll have something more substantial. Although in GW2s case it doesn’t matter what hardware you through at it because of that pesky DX9 engine. I’m personally really excited for DX12 and Windows 10 in general, as someone who stuck with Windows 7 I’m looking forward to a change, and not just change for changes sake, it actually looks great.

You and me both, but for me win10 is a rebuild. My OS is soo custom its WEEKS of work to change the OS. Which is the main reason i did not go to 8 or 8.1. After I test 10 out on my laptop ill probably switch my desktop over as well.

But DX12 will only really improve for games that use it. GW2 being DX9, It wont see much benefit to the change, if any at all.

For sure, GW2 won’t see any improvement from DX12/Win10 sadly. But with the new Unreal engine in development the future of PC gaming is bright.