Guild Wars 2

Hi. My computer lags so much when i play guild ward. It’s ok when i play in PvE but when i go to World vs. World its impossible to play because of the lag.

I am playing battlefield 3 on the highest settings fine.
I am also playing far cry 3 at the moment which is going fine to.

Can someone please help me to fix this problem? It’s a really nice game but too much lag for me.

Specs:

AMD athlon ii x4 3.0 ghz
MSI twin frozr ii 560 ti
4 GB RAM
500 v PSU

New drivers etc.

Your CPU is too slow to handle all the player models in WvW

um, Unspec I really doubt its the player models that are the issue here…..considering that his system could im quite sure play WoW, L2, Aion, Tera or a slew of other games with just as many people on the screen at once.

the problem is, this games designed as if everybody has 5-8ghz tricores…..

the game has 3 critical worker threads, nowhere have I seen anet say what these 3 threads do, but Im guessing one of them is for culling…..and its defective…..if any of those 3 threads hits a wall even for an instant, your fps will suffer, this happens to everybody, some people are hit worse then others.

if you dig back in this section you see people with systems far far better then the OP’s having the same problems, example is the other day I saw a post by a fellow with a 3900x series intel chip he had it at 4.5 or 4.6ghz yet he was having horrible perf in DE’s and WvWvW……he also had a much better video card then the OP’s……

Flonkz.1387: sorry to say this but, in a way the fellow above is correct, your cpu is bottlenecking you due to the very very poor optimization level of this game, your best bet is to oc your cpu and just wait to see if anet fix their kitten.

if you want a fun mmo to play in the mean time, try tera, its going free to play and runs better then gw2 for everybody I know…..(unreal engine based probably helps with that….despite its warts/flaws at least tera’s perf is somewhat consistent across systems of similar spec. and at least i never see HUGE fps drops in towns…)

I second tera as a good MMO to try if u really want to BUT.

Your CPu is ur problem atm. As the above poster said, even people such as myself get , what we consider, bad fps in WvW. I personaly go as low as 30 fps in HUGE battles and only average 45fps in the medium sized battles. PVE and Dungeons are usaly 60fps.
But considering the rig i have i should be getitng MUCH more.

So u can get ‘playable’ FPS in GW2 but u really need a beafy rig. Somthing like a 3570k CPU with 4.5ghz OC and a 560ti or 650ti or AMD 7870 to run on High settings. A complete self built rig with those kinda specs along with all other parts would come to around $750 more or less depending on sales and what u can salvage from ur current rig.

Jazhara Knightmage.4389:

um, Unspec I really doubt its the player models that are the issue here…..considering that his system could im quite sure play WoW, L2, Aion, Tera or a slew of other games with just as many people on the screen at once.

the problem is, this games designed as if everybody has 5-8ghz tricores…..

the game has 3 critical worker threads, nowhere have I seen anet say what these 3 threads do, but Im guessing one of them is for culling…..and its defective…..if any of those 3 threads hits a wall even for an instant, your fps will suffer, this happens to everybody, some people are hit worse then others.

if you dig back in this section you see people with systems far far better then the OP’s having the same problems, example is the other day I saw a post by a fellow with a 3900x series intel chip he had it at 4.5 or 4.6ghz yet he was having horrible perf in DE’s and WvWvW……he also had a much better video card then the OP’s……

Flonkz.1387: sorry to say this but, in a way the fellow above is correct, your cpu is bottlenecking you due to the very very poor optimization level of this game, your best bet is to oc your cpu and just wait to see if anet fix their kitten.

if you want a fun mmo to play in the mean time, try tera, its going free to play and runs better then gw2 for everybody I know…..(unreal engine based probably helps with that….despite its warts/flaws at least tera’s perf is somewhat consistent across systems of similar spec. and at least i never see HUGE fps drops in towns…)

My friend runs a slow CPU and the players refuse to render, or they’re just the pre-rendered models floating around

whats weird is, i have seen with my own eyes people who got really lucky who have systems in the same class as the op’s who are able to play all but wvwvw acceptably, wvwvw….well, I have yet to see a rig get consistent decent perf ……by decent i mean, 45+fps at all times….60stable at minimum at all times should be anets goal….

60fps constant, as a minimum, for every player? Wow.

They can do that… but the game would look like super mario brothers from 1985. That’s the only way you’re going to guarantee that everyone gets that kind of consistently high performance considering most people don’t own high-end rigs.

Or, you could keep the game looking really nice and only sell it to the 100 or so kids whose parents buy them $3,000 gaming rigs and the game would cost more than the rig.

So which one sounds better?

no, i dont think you get it, min specs should be caculated based on lowest in game settings at a set resolution, say 720p, for 60fps stable, not telling people whos system can techinically start the game and move around slide show fassion that their system is good enough to run the game, its called being honest rather then greedy….

gw2 needs alot of work to give even those of us with systems that are massive overkill consistant 30+fps let alone 60+ fps….

do you play any other games?

show me another game that runs as badly on i5/i7/piledriver/phenom II or even bulldozer.

changing res and quality settings for me gets me ZERO gain in perf, ZERO as in NONE……I can run the game at 2560×1440 on my 8120 system(dual 6870) without loosing any perf vs 1920×1080(game maxed in dx11 mode)

show me another game thats come out in the last few years that scales that poorly with hardware……

little note for you, since clearly you dont know this but, dx11 can support dx9 and 10 hardware, if done properly it still shows benefit in perf even with a dx9 videocard, theres no excuse in this day and age for the game to run as poorly as it does on the kind of hardware most of us run it on.

you dont need a 3000 system to be a true gamer, I got alot of friends on sub1k systems who are kicking around in bf3 and other modern games at 1080p without the kind of consistant sub 60fps perf this game gives.

I also know people who spend more then 3k on their system(none of them are kids and all of them built their systems themselves mind you), the sucky part is, their systems run the game no better then mine, despite having cpu’s that cost over 1k, and in 2 cases videocards that came close to a grand or went over that mark…….still they cant get consistant 30fps…..mind the same people can load up WoW or Tera and never see this kind of fps drop.

Hell, I can load up WoW and walk into any town or raid with tons of people and never see the game dip below my fps cap of 60……I can do the same in tera and every other game I own….yet gw2 I cant……

my systems not even close to as good as a few guys on here have, yet, many like SolarNova admit they cant keep the game at or above 60fps……

for a min spec you should be able to play at min settings at 720p and keep a consistent 60fps….I know you hate that view but, lets be honest here, no system can do that with gw2, you would need a 6-8ghz tricore to manage that…and even then……no guarantee it wouldnt drop below 60fps…

I understand what you’re saying, and am not trying to say that you don’t have a point. I do notice that GW2 runs more or less the same no matter what resolution I put it in (however, changing quality settings has more of an effect). This game is definitely CPU bound.

Your post before made me think that you wanted to see a consistent 60fps at all times. Now that you clarified that it should be possible with lower settings and lower resolution for people with adequate hardware, then I agree. I just don’t think that it takes away from the game experience if the framerate dips below 60. Isn’t it adequate to have an average fps above 30 (ideally with no dips below 30)? I’d be happy with that.

WoW isn’t a great benchmark to judge GW2 by. The game is over 8 years old. When WoW first came out I couldn’t play it anywhere near 60fps. I can now, but that’s after a couple upgrades and many patches from NVidia and Blizzard.

I just noticed that I got a decent FPS boost by reducing (or disabling) shadows in the game’s graphics settings. Flonkz, did you give that a shot?

funny, i been able to run WoW since beta at 60+fps, dropping details or res always gave a boost.

and it is valid because, and get this ,gw2’s engine is just a respin of gw1’s, and guess what, wow’s is just the same engine behind warcraft3, but heres the real kicker, blizzard was able to move the game over to dx11 and get a huge perf boost even for people with fairly low end game cards( tested on my 6670 recently on a buddies private server dx11 mode almost doubles the fps at 1080p…..)

what I feel would be fitting would be 60 being possible by lowering settings(res/details/both),but its not, you cant even get a stable 30fps by doing that, if your system can get 30+ at 1080p or 1440p, it will get the same fps as you lower res or turn all settings to low……how do I know? I have tried it on multi rigs……

I love the game but….anet need to do something…the game should not run this poorly on modern systems…..no way…i have games with FAR better gfx that run FAR FAR FAR better……gw2 is a pretty game, I do think had they used dx11 and forgone the xp/console port ideas they could have done better and gotten better perf….but….alas…..we got what we got….

I really hope anet are working hard to fix the problem……if not…..well the only loss is to anet in the gems I wont be buying, and the expansions I wont be buying if they dont “Fix their kitten” I have other games, games that run far better, even on really crappy systems….

I have run tera on everything from dual core 6000+ to a 9650(quadcore phenom1) to a fx4100 with various cards, 8800gt’s, gts’s, 2900xt’s, hell x1900xtx’s even, and you could make it stably playable by lowering res and details, you just cant do that with gw2…..detail settings on many of our rigs mean NOTHING other then the game looking better or alot worse……I see no benefit from dropping settings to low…..dosnt effect my fps at all……the game stays playable but…….still bothers me it runs so poorly compared to many other modern games……..

if they cant fix the problem using the gw2 engine, it may be time for them to move to another engine, unreal or torque or game byro(sp) or any of the other engines out there that deal well with large numbers of players on the screen at once…..(note all the engines I have mentioned are used in mmo’s or have been used in mmo’s…..to good effect)

game byro(sp) is being used for the re-make of the ragnarok online 2 client (they started with unreal engine 2.5 but changed their mind after the client hit beta…no word why they changed last i checked, could be licensing issues…)