Guild Wars 2

Hey there guys!

We all know that Gw2 scales terribly in WvW on medium or lower end machines, and we all know that buying the latest generation i7 CPU will greatly increase the frame rate in massive fights, yet I have to upgrade my girlfriend’s computer and truth be told I’m not very AMD-savvy customer when it comes down to their A/CPUs. I myself have R9 290X oven but that’s GPU land. Also we really don’t want to buy a new motherboard.

Her current motherboard is running AM3+ socket and a 5-6 year old AMD cpu throwing out some 3.4GHz but really its at the end of its lifecycle. We’ve upgraded her GPU to Radeon HD 7850 (yep GCN architecture) having Mantle API in mind and knowing it would offload the CPU a bit, but then again there aren’t much Mantle enabled games YET.

Regardless, I would like to know what are you, AMD CPU people using in your rigs and what average FPS you are pushing. I’m really bad when it comes to AMD CPUs, having a Sandy Bridge i5 for about 3 years now I haven’t really checked any CPU advancements from any manufacturer.

So, yup, TL;DR; – Help a brother out to pick an AM3+ AMD CPU that would push some decent FPS in WvW, be it at Medium graphics.

Tech Support would be the more appropriate sub-forum. Good luck.

Well I didn’t know where to put this topic. If a moderator could move it that would be great, I don’t really want to make a double post about it.

EDIT: Thanks for the moving

I was previously using an AMD FX-8350. Lowest FPS I got was 6 FPS in wvw at the time when I participated. The extremely bad, like, literally all of wvw one evening, dropped my FPS to 2.

I’ve since upgraded to an i7 4770K myself.

I had better FPS on my Phenom II 975 Black Edition in other MMO games where I used both CPU so I’d imagine the same performance difference could probably be seen here.

If you want to stick to the AMD though I’d actually recommend no further than the AMD Phenom II 1100T processor if you wanted the best performance you could get from AMD. Afterwards you could probably get it professional overclocked to maybe 3.8 GHz or 4 GHz and get it boosted a bit. Although for the price now, the FX-8350 isn’t too bad of a deal when it comes to AM3+ but that’s only if the board supports it to begin with.

Until I know what the board is I can recommend the Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition if it can be found (highest speed without overclocking) and the Thuban Phenom II X6 1100T. It comes clocked at 3.3 GHz, but is also a six core.

Sorry about the doublepost

From my research in the past hour or so I’ve laid my eyes on FX8350. Seems it can deliver. Is any of you guys using that CPU? How is it handling itself in WvW encounters?

EDIT: Ah it seems we’ve posted at the same time. I’ll check out your suggestions as well. Thank you!

I use a fx8350 and a gtx680, most open world is 60fps for me. but to get a playedable framerate in zergs I have to reduce how many players are visible to lowest. more players really destroys my framerate.

It depends on the rest of your system aswell though.Im running a FX 8120 OC@ 4.6 ghz with 2x gtx560 ti in sli.Pve im averaging 70 – 100+ fps all settings maxed out.In WvW im averaging at around 50 – 80,in normal fights around 40,in the BIG fights the lowest possible fps i get is around 20 fps,again with everything maxed out but only having the WvW settings on low.
If you go for AMD,you just need to oc the hell out of it to see its true perfomance.

Ravenmoon.5318:

Hey there guys!

We all know that Gw2 scales terribly in WvW on medium or lower end machines, and we all know that buying the latest generation i7 CPU will greatly increase the frame rate in massive fights, yet I have to upgrade my girlfriend’s computer and truth be told I’m not very AMD-savvy customer when it comes down to their A/CPUs. I myself have R9 290X oven but that’s GPU land. Also we really don’t want to buy a new motherboard.

Her current motherboard is running AM3+ socket and a 5-6 year old AMD cpu throwing out some 3.4GHz but really its at the end of its lifecycle. We’ve upgraded her GPU to Radeon HD 7850 (yep GCN architecture) having Mantle API in mind and knowing it would offload the CPU a bit, but then again there aren’t much Mantle enabled games YET.

Regardless, I would like to know what are you, AMD CPU people using in your rigs and what average FPS you are pushing. I’m really bad when it comes to AMD CPUs, having a Sandy Bridge i5 for about 3 years now I haven’t really checked any CPU advancements from any manufacturer.

So, yup, TL;DR; – Help a brother out to pick an AM3+ AMD CPU that would push some decent FPS in WvW, be it at Medium graphics.

You will want to ditch the AMD Motherboard/CPU and go either Ivy or haswell Intel.

youll want an i5 clocked at 3.2ghz or more on either 1150 or 1155 socket.

AMD does not scale well with GW2. Even their best cpus (FX8 and FX9) are about 1/3rd the performance of Intel’s i5’s when it comes to this game.

If the motherboard is capable, get a FX8350 + aftermarket cooler so u can OC it.

sirsquishy.8531:

Ravenmoon.5318:

Hey there guys!

We all know that Gw2 scales terribly in WvW on medium or lower end machines, and we all know that buying the latest generation i7 CPU will greatly increase the frame rate in massive fights, yet I have to upgrade my girlfriend’s computer and truth be told I’m not very AMD-savvy customer when it comes down to their A/CPUs. I myself have R9 290X oven but that’s GPU land. Also we really don’t want to buy a new motherboard.

Her current motherboard is running AM3+ socket and a 5-6 year old AMD cpu throwing out some 3.4GHz but really its at the end of its lifecycle. We’ve upgraded her GPU to Radeon HD 7850 (yep GCN architecture) having Mantle API in mind and knowing it would offload the CPU a bit, but then again there aren’t much Mantle enabled games YET.

Regardless, I would like to know what are you, AMD CPU people using in your rigs and what average FPS you are pushing. I’m really bad when it comes to AMD CPUs, having a Sandy Bridge i5 for about 3 years now I haven’t really checked any CPU advancements from any manufacturer.

So, yup, TL;DR; – Help a brother out to pick an AM3+ AMD CPU that would push some decent FPS in WvW, be it at Medium graphics.

You will want to ditch the AMD Motherboard/CPU and go either Ivy or haswell Intel.

youll want an i5 clocked at 3.2ghz or more on either 1150 or 1155 socket.

AMD does not scale well with GW2. Even their best cpus (FX8 and FX9) are about 1/3rd the performance of Intel’s i5’s when it comes to this game.

I currently am playing with OCed i5-2500k and the FPS is acceptable. No need to go over to Ivy/Haswell yet. But as I said in my OP, new motherboard is a no-no

SolarNova.1052:

If the motherboard is capable, get a FX8350 + aftermarket cooler so u can OC it.

Will AMD ever learn to put decent coolers on their hardware >.> My i5-2500k can push out 4GHz on stock cooling while my R9 290X completely destroys the need of an air conditioner in the winter >.>

But yeah, ontopic, I’m pretty certain that we will go with the FX8350, saw some promising benchmarks. I guess that’s the best AMD chip for price/performance and AM3+ socket.

Thanks for the replies everyone. When we get it in couple of months I’ll write down the results With that power usage (~150W) I guess we’ll need to get her a new PSU as well.

And mostly thank you for staying outside of fanboyism

Ravenmoon.5318:

SolarNova.1052:

If the motherboard is capable, get a FX8350 + aftermarket cooler so u can OC it.

Will AMD ever learn to put decent coolers on their hardware >.> My i5-2500k can push out 4GHz on stock cooling while my R9 290X completely destroys the need of an air conditioner in the winter >.>

But yeah, ontopic, I’m pretty certain that we will go with the FX8350, saw some promising benchmarks. I guess that’s the best AMD chip for price/performance and AM3+ socket.

Thanks for the replies everyone. When we get it in couple of months I’ll write down the results With that power usage (~150W) I guess we’ll need to get her a new PSU as well.

And mostly thank you for staying outside of fanboyism

FX8130, FX8350, FX9*50 are all the same CPU with different ‘base’ OC’s.
When they are all pushed to the same OC, they perform about the same (give or take 5%). So if cost is an issue I would go between a FX8130 and FX8350 and NOT touch the FX9 series at all.

For the aftermarket cooler I really suggest this if you are going to OC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242007

Pricy and does not include fans. But works as well, if not better, then water cooling.

My i5-4670K OC’d to 4.9 with a Boost of 5.1 runs at 75C’s with that cooler. With my H100i I was at 83C’s…but the Pump fried on it so I had to replace it. Alot of research went into my decision and ultimately this review sold me on it.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-heat-sink-haswell,3554.html

AMD FX-8130 is not a real CPU. FX8100 8120 and 8150 are Bulldozer Zembazi. There was an FX 8100 but it never reached the market. I also read about an 8170 somewhere at some point but never marketed.

FX 8320 and 8350 / 9370/9590 are all the same Vishera chips.
The lower the number here the more binned the CPU is. FX 9590 being the most perfect chip in the line since it comes out of the box clocked at 4.7 GHz which on it’s own should hold up alright enough for Guild Wars 2 but still I would not expect miracles.

Edit:
My mistake. FX-8130*P* is a real processor but it was also never marketed. It too was a Zembazi Bulldozer.