Guild Wars 2

Hello, I have 2 different laptops. One costed me around $250 bucks and runs the game flawlessly at about 55-70 FPS on medium settings. The other costed me around $800 and runs the game at about 7-16 FPS on extremelly low settings.

I thought if I posted the spec’s that people with more knowledge could help me figure out whats going on here.

Here are the Spec’s on the Toshiba Satellite p755 that costed me about $800 brand new at best buy in 2011. This machine runs the game at an average of 8-10 fps. 7 or lower when events happen. and up to about 16 when facing the walls.

-System Information-
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name *******
System Manufacturer TOSHIBA
System Model Satellite P755
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel® Core™ i3-2310M CPU @ 2.10GHz, 2100 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date TOSHIBA 1.90, 4/27/2011
SMBIOS Version 2.6
Windows Directory C:\windows
System Directory C:\windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = “6.1.7601.17514”
User Name *******\Frozencapsule
Time Zone Mountain Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 6.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 5.91 GB
Available Physical Memory 4.32 GB
Total Virtual Memory 11.8 GB
Available Virtual Memory 10.1 GB
Page File Space 5.91 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

-Display Information-

Intel® HD Graphics 3000

Report Date: 1/9/2013
Report Time[hh:mm:ss]: 18:20:44
Driver Version: 9.17.10.2932
Operating System: Windows 7 Service Pack 1(6.1.7601)
Default Language: English (United States)
DirectX* Version: 11.0
Physical Memory: 6050 MB
Processor: Intel64 Family 6 Model 42 Stepping 7
Processor Speed: 2095 MHz
Vendor ID: 8086
Device ID: 0116
Device Revision: 09

• Processor Graphics Information *

Processor Graphics in Use: Intel® HD Graphics 3000
Video BIOS: 2098.0
Current Graphics Mode: 1366 by 768

• Devices Connected to the Graphics Accelerator *

Active Notebook Displays: 1
* Built-in Display *

Monitor Name: Generic PnP Monitor
Display Type: Digital
Gamma Value: 2.2
DDC2 Protocol: Supported

Maximum Image Size:
Horizontal: 13.39 inches
Vertical: 07.48 inches

Monitor Supported Modes:
1366 by 768 (60 Hz)

Display Power Management Support:
Standby Mode: Not Supported
Suspend Mode: Not Supported
Active Off Mode: Not Supported

Raw EDID:
00 FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 30 E4 DC 02 00 00 00 00
00 14 01 03 80 22 13 78 0A A9 05 9F 5E 58 9C 26
19 50 54 00 00 00 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01 01
01 01 01 01 01 01 58 1B 56 7E 50 00 0E 30 24 30
35 00 58 C2 10 00 00 19 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FE 00 4C
47 20 44 69 73 70 6C 61 79 0A 20 20 00 00 00 FE
00 4C 50 31 35 36 57 48 34 2D 54 4C 41 31 00 79

• Other names and brands are the property of their respective owners. *

Here is the spec’s for my $250 Lenovo Ideapad Y550 that I picked up at the pawn shop. This computer runs the game like a beast at 55-70 FPS almost constantly.

-System Information-
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate
Version 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1 Build 7601
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name *********
System Manufacturer LENOVO
System Model 4186
System Type x64-based PC
Processor Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU T6500 @ 2.10GHz, 2100 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date LENOVO 15CN35WW(V2.08), 3/15/2010
SMBIOS Version 2.5
Windows Directory C:\Windows
System Directory C:\Windows\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = “6.1.7601.17514”
User Name ********\Pawn One
Time Zone Mountain Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 3.99 GB
Available Physical Memory 2.82 GB
Total Virtual Memory 7.99 GB
Available Virtual Memory 6.74 GB
Page File Space 3.99 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys

-Display Information-

GeForce GT 240M

Driver Version: 258.96
CUDA Cores: 48
Graphics Clock: 550 MHz
Processor Clock: 1210 MHz
Memory Clock: 790 MHz (1580 MHz data rate)
Memory Interface: 128-bit
Total Available Graphics: 2813 MB
Dedicated Video Memory: 1024 MB DDR3
System Video Memory: 0 MB
Shared System Memory: 1789 MB
Video BIOS version: 70.16.1C.00.24
IRQ: 16
Bus: PCI Express x16

I’m not sure why the second laptop is so much better then the first. I would really like to get that first one up to par.

(I would play my Lenovo Ideapad with the Nvidia graphics card, but it keeps shutting down on me. If anyone see’s anything that might lead to that in my system information. Let me know. Thanks!)

Looking at the specs they should perform roughly the same

• are you measuring FPS in the same places?
• one has integrated GPU, while the other has a dedicated GPU.
• are you driver etc installed/updated etc

It’s a noticeable difference. Regardless where you go. The dedicated is running extremely smoothly like wow usually does on a pretty good machine. And then on the integrated it is really choppy and not as fluid. Kind of like skyrocket. Wish I coul make a video. It’s really wild.

Fps measured in metrics province or brisban wildlands

Updating drivers these days is quite a daunting task. Intel sends me to my manufacturer. Manufacturer has a driver from 09…etc

Is there an easy way to check your drivers for updates.
I used to think you can do it through device manager but it appears they will tell you the driver is updated when there’s still updated drivers available.

I just really want to play. On the one computer it runs way to slow and choppy and I can’t enjoy my experience. And on the other computer, it runs so perfectly smooth but it shuts off in less than 15 mins.

It’s like a curse! =\

Not to much of a surprise that you could get a better used computer for less than a new one.

From what I recall the Nvidia 240m series out performing the HD 3000 is no surprise ether.

On the one that shuts off in 15min, is it a ‘controlled’ shut down? IE: when you turn the computer back on does Windows wish to repair itself?

This might help debug if it is a automatic thing or the result of something crashing.

It says it shut down unexpectedly and try’s to repair itself when I start the computer back up. It shuts down pretty quick.

Here’s a link to the thread for the shutting down:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Shuts-down-all-of-a-sudden-in-game-No-heat/first#post1178474

http://downloadcenter.intel.com
> Graphics
> Laptop Graphic Drivers
> 2nd Generation Intel® Core™ Processors with Intel® HD Graphics 3000/2000

Leads you to this driver win32_152812.exe version 15.28.12.2932

Software Student here (I know a bit about hardware as well).

Intel HD 3000 is a very low-end graphics card. If you look at buyable laptops today, that card is about the worst performing card they can put in a machine. The GT240 IS better. Your CPU’s are equally fast, but without looking at the two, I’d say the i3 is slightly better, since it is newer (and probably better designed).

These should be the main concerns.
Now the things i can think of: Some computers do a thing called core parking, which doesn’t always work as intended. Disabling it can net you a FPS increase – I got 15fps. You can google your way to a guide on how to do it. Make sure you read what doing this implies.
I didn’t see the resolution on your second laptop, but lowering the resolution can help your fps too. I’m greedy and run 1920×1080 on my laptop, and it can barely keep up
And of course update your graphics drivers. It can improve a lot.

Intel HD 3000 is just a graphic chip on the motherboard… so it uses memory of your ram, and is far less powerfull than that nvidia on the other one.
So basicly, you have 2Gb for windows, and the rest for the graphic card.

So the OS/Game is indeed ‘crashing’ but without a BSOD? You may be able to get some data out of the Windows event log, sometimes it might capture something useful.