Low FPS new PC
Actually, the Phenom II line wasn’t much worse than the Bulldozer line in the important(to Gw2) aspect; Single core performance/IPC.
And your old GPU is, in a few aspects, stronger than your new GPU. If you had upgraded from a normal 650Ti to a 750 Ti,it would have been a marginal upgrade. Some would consider it more of a side-grade. But the 650Ti boost isn’t a normal 650 Ti.
Here’s the 650 Ti score in 3Dmark 11. P-Score=4747
And here’s the 750,750Ti and 650 Ti Boost scores for 3DMark 11. P-Score= 5187,5777, and 6043, respectively.
The Boost beats the 750Ti in a few aspects but that can be narrowed down to optimizations made to the architecture because as you can see from these TechPowerUp database entries, The Boost has more or the same amount of hardware(ROPs,TMUs,Shader Units and a larger Memory Bus)as the 750 Ti.
And the normal 650 Ti just for fun.
In conclusion; your performance with the new system seems to be just about the same as others using AMD Processors in Gw2 and your old system did not have a constant 60fps unless you were standing in an empty field somewhere.
There’s no PC to date that can keep a steady 60fps while actually playing the game where more than 20 people are present.
i5 4690k @4.1ghz, r7 260x 1180/1680,8Gb G.skill Ripjaw 2133, 120gb ssd Gw2+OS
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i have a 750ti ( Asus 750ti OC edition 2gb) does that make any difference?
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Does it make a difference that it’s the OC version?
Not much at all.
They’re still just about even in performance,with the 650Ti Boost doing better in some aspects.
Take the Memory Bandwidth. The 650 Ti Boost has 2gb vRAM over a 192bit bus with a 1502 MHz memory clock equaling 144 GB/s memory bandwidth.
The 750 Ti has 2gb vRAM over a 128bit bus with a 1350 MHz memory clock equaling 86.4 GB/s. The 650 Ti Boost is always going to be stronger here.
The “OC” on your card,however,is the Core. Here’s the Database entry for the ASUS 750Ti OC
The important bits to look at there is the Pixel and Texture Fill Rates.
Regular 750Ti
- Pixel Rate: 16.3 GigaPixel/s
- Texture Rate: 40.8 GigaTexel/s
ASUS OC 750Ti
- Pixel Rate: 17.2 GigaPixel/s
- Texture Rate: 42.9 GigaTexel/s
And the 650 Ti Boost
- Pixel Rate: 15.7 GigaPixel/s
- Texture Rate: 62.7 GTexel/s
The 750 Ti having a better Pixel Fill Rate than the 650Ti Boost can be attributed to its more efficient Algorithms and higher Core Clock while it being so much weaker on the Texture fill Rates can be attributed to the fewer ROPS and TMUs.
i5 4690k @4.1ghz, r7 260x 1180/1680,8Gb G.skill Ripjaw 2133, 120gb ssd Gw2+OS
The issue with the FX 6300, and the entire FX series was the architecture change. The Phenoms had 1 logic processor per core, the FX series has 2. IE: the six cores are 3 physical cores with 6 logic processors. AMD finally acknowledged this and many other flaws in the Bulldozer design, and supposedly are moving away from it with the Zen cpus coming out in 2016/2017.
As for the FPS you are getting, it is about the normal with that CPU setup. One thing I will tell you, the 970 chipset isn’t that great for the FX 6300…my previous build was the 970 Extreme 3 and it’d blue screen when I tried to OC the CPU or even use Turbo.
so you think i should return back to the phenom Black edition quad core 3.4ghz? u think it will make guildwars run better?
also i have another motherboard here a Gigabite 1 that actually came with my 6core CPU but i removed the cpu from it and put into my 970.
im having same issue with this everytime i try to OC it just bluescreens
also i have another motherboard here a Gigabite 1 that actually came with my 6core CPU but i removed the cpu from it and put into my 970.
im having same issue with this everytime i try to OC it just bluescreens
what you should do is retire the AMD CPUs and get with either a G3258 or an i3-4130 as it will run circles around either of those AMD CPUs.
As for the GPU, the 750 and the 750Ti are capable of pushing 80-100 FPS at 1080p on Medium-High settings. Its your CPU that is bottlenecking it.
If you expect more then 24FPS for zerg content you need to buy either an i5 or i7. And even then the best you can aim for is 32FPS. Thats just how this game is coded and works. But for open world areas and lightly congested places (less then 15 players) the Intel Dual cores (G3xxx and the i3) fit perfectly for a budget system.
Desktop: 4790k@4.6ghz-1.25v, AMD 295×2, 32GB 1866CL10 RAM, 850Evo 500GB SSD
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD
Laptop: M6600 – 2720QM, AMD HD6970M, 32GB 1600CL9 RAM, Arc100 480GB SSD