Guild Wars 2

crushing forum bug

still cant connect… 3 days now…. i just want to play T_T

nottsgman.8206:

atheria.2837:

Anet as a whole needs to understand that having Level 3 in their networking path is a death knell for all gamers.

Period.

you need to understand that Anet has no control over the route your connection takes to their servers.

Period.

No, that’s incorrect. Level 3 is NCSoft’s provider. While NCSoft should diversify the service providers they use, that’s an expensive proposition.

How do those players that don’t use Level 3 connect to NCSoft servers, then? It seems Telia is often the culprit (as a different Tier 1 provider).

I’m not seeing a tracert in this thread that doesn’t go through L3. And ANet has previously worked directly with L3, troubleshooting connectivity issues as it is their provider.

You might check some of the other threads regarding connectivity. You will see different Tier 1 providers.

If there is a particular provider having issues at a certain time, it would make sense that most of the posts (at that certain time) would include said provider, no?

A route isn’t going to change based on the time of day.

That said, nothing in this thread points to Level 3 as being an issue, so it’s more or less irrelevant in this particular case.

Then, why should NCSoft ‘diversify their service providers’, as you stated?

(The point being…Level 3 is not the only service provider used to connect to NCSoft servers.)

NCSoft’s own service provider is Level 3. Their services connect through it for all of their games. You cannot avoid Level 3, though your own provider may be able to find a better route than the one advertised to a different Level 3 hand off. E.g. it might be that a Central US hand off between your ISP and L3 is congested, but one in the West US isn’t.

But again, the issues in this thread don’t point to Level 3, just like WvW skill lag. It’s a server-side issue.

So, you are saying that even though a tracert does not show any Level 3 service provider connections, it is still using Level 3? It’s just hidden from view? (I don’t know much about backbones, or whatever.)

Certainly possible. You’ll see in pretty much ever tracert in this thread there is a node on Level 3’s network that not only doesn’t resolve, but doesn’t reply (100% dropped packets). This is just a node that is dropping all ICMP traffic. That’s good and bad. Good because ICMP is handled by a very slow path and it doesn’t take many concurrent pings to cause high CPU usage (this is why sane devices will rate-limit ICMP and why you might seen random packet loss/high latency at a particular node in the path). Bad because it prevents you from performing certain troubleshooting.

It’s also important to consider that you’re going through network devices that simply forward the traffic. It’s… very unlikely that I’m only going through a dozen or so pieces of network equipment to get from Washington to Dallas, TX.