Question about TOS & Gem Cards
Might depend on the terms but it sounds iffy. Why don’t you contact support and let them tell you.
Searching for an answer, I’ve seen sites like IGN advertise Gem Card giveaways. Just dont want to get in trouble posting anything like that here trying to recruit or promote a site.
Well support is still the best place to ask. Go to the support tab at the top of the page and then go to ‘ask a question’ and fill out a ticket.
IGN can do that because they aren’t advertising ingame or on the forum. That’s where it gets tricky. You will have to give support all the details. As a general statement, if it involves money (them giving you money) then I doubt it’s allowable.
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That ticket was probably ultimately be escalated to me, so let me answer here.
Some player-run giveaways are great. I can remember one of our radio stations doing giveaways of donated miniatures in Guild Wars. That event was very well received and I don’t recall a single player complaint about it.
But player-run giveaways can have negative outcomes. And in some cases they are disallowed. For instance, players are not allowed to hold “raffles” where everyone chips in XX and then one person (random drawing, whoever guesses closest to a number, etc.) wins an in-game item, gem card, whatever. The reason they are disallowed is because so many times someone ends up shorted or scammed. The item isn’t delivered; isn’t as advertised, is a used code, etc. We can’t inject ourselves into such situations, and so we simply disallow such activities.
If you’re doing a straight giveaway, with no required contribution on the part of others, that should be fine. For instance, a guild leader might purchase a gem card and have a random drawing amongst the guild members to pick a winner. That’s perfectly fine. Although again, fulfillment is something we can’t enforce, so if the winner were to come and say “I was promised a gem card and it never got delivered” we would ask that he sort it out with the person who made the promise and would not get in the middle of the transfer/transaction.
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Gaile, can you clarify a little on this rule? I can’t find anything in the Rules of Conduct (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/) or at the top of this forum which states raffles are disallowed in-game. I can’t even find language which closely resembles it.
50/50 raffles are a great and fun way for guilds to build up their bank.
Gaile, can you clarify a little on this rule? I can’t find anything in the Rules of Conduct (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/) or at the top of this forum which states raffles are disallowed in-game. I can’t even find language which closely resembles it.
50/50 raffles are a great and fun way for guilds to build up their bank.
Please describe a 50/50 raffle to me. Thanks.
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Thanks Gaile. Sounds like we’re fine with our straight give-away then.
I’m disappointed about the raffles & lottery tickets though. I know a lot of guilds do that sort of thing. It’s fun to win stuff and get/give congratulations to the winner.
First of all, I think it would be pretty crappy of a guild to cheat their members but I’m sure someone has already and will again…
Second, opening a ticket with anet support about it wouldn’t even cross my mind if that happened to me though.
Last, I think streaming a drawing and using something simple like The Hat is an easy way to help everyone feel the contest was honest.
A 50/50 is where the ‘house’ gets half and the winner gets the other half.
Different topic though.
Gaile, can you clarify a little on this rule? I can’t find anything in the Rules of Conduct (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/) or at the top of this forum which states raffles are disallowed in-game. I can’t even find language which closely resembles it.
50/50 raffles are a great and fun way for guilds to build up their bank.
Please describe a 50/50 raffle to me. Thanks.
Players would submit gold to the player running the raffle. The winner of the raffle would get 50% of the total gold (in the form of gems) while the organizers would keep the other 50% of the gold
Gaile, can you clarify a little on this rule? I can’t find anything in the Rules of Conduct (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/) or at the top of this forum which states raffles are disallowed in-game. I can’t even find language which closely resembles it.
50/50 raffles are a great and fun way for guilds to build up their bank.
Please describe a 50/50 raffle to me. Thanks.
Players would submit gold to the player running the raffle. The winner of the raffle would get 50% of the total gold (in the form of gems) while the organizers would keep the other 50% of the gold
Popular fundraiser technique. Only requires tickets and a coffee can or two when done in the real world.
The problem is that historically, raffles and other forms of gambling have been rife with issues: scamming, lack of fulfillment, items not as advertised, cheating, etc.
We had what we thought was a harmless mini-game in Guild Wars (original) when it released, but it was so abused, and so many players were scammed or cheated through it, that we removed it from the game. (This was the /roll option, for those of you who were around back then.)
It’s a given that CS won’t get involved in a Gentleman’s Agreement. I am currently discussing where we are on raffles. I believed we were “policy against” but perhaps it was more “strongly discouraged” because of all the potential and sadly often-realized ugly side effects, such as non-fulfillment, host running off with the gold/goods, false advertising (swapping a less-valuable item for the offered prize, straight-up cheating, etc.
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I’d be fine with ‘strongly discouraged’. My guild is a bunch of old farts who have better things to do than try to scam guildies out of a few copper.
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Gaile, can you clarify a little on this rule? I can’t find anything in the Rules of Conduct (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/) or at the top of this forum which states raffles are disallowed in-game. I can’t even find language which closely resembles it.
50/50 raffles are a great and fun way for guilds to build up their bank.
Please describe a 50/50 raffle to me. Thanks.
Players would submit gold to the player running the raffle. The winner of the raffle would get 50% of the total gold (in the form of gems) while the organizers would keep the other 50% of the gold
Popular fundraiser technique. Only requires tickets and a coffee can or two when done in the real world.
I’ve seen it done in RL, yes. In fact, I attended an event this month where they did a 50/50. But when I have seen it, it’s always for a charity, not for personal gain. (The one in which I participated this month was for cancer research.) That doesn’t seem to be the case in the one’s mentioned here — it’s not “one’s favorite charity” but “one’s wallet,” I surmise?
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Guild & Fansite Relations; In-Game Events
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Gaile, can you clarify a little on this rule? I can’t find anything in the Rules of Conduct (https://www.guildwars2.com/en/legal/guild-wars-2-rules-of-conduct/) or at the top of this forum which states raffles are disallowed in-game. I can’t even find language which closely resembles it.
50/50 raffles are a great and fun way for guilds to build up their bank.
Please describe a 50/50 raffle to me. Thanks.
Players would submit gold to the player running the raffle. The winner of the raffle would get 50% of the total gold (in the form of gems) while the organizers would keep the other 50% of the gold
Popular fundraiser technique. Only requires tickets and a coffee can or two when done in the real world.
I’ve seen it done in RL, yes. In fact, I attended an event this month where they did a 50/50. But when I have seen it, it’s always for a charity, not for personal gain. (The one in which I participated this month was for cancer research.) That doesn’t seem to be the case in the one’s mentioned here — it’s not “one’s favorite charity” but “one’s wallet,” I surmise?
My guild has done it but for the guild’s wallet..
Basically everyone mails the organizers (strictly in-guild) a sum of money, with a chance for every X money sent (1 chance every 50s for example), then the winners are selected, half of the gold received is split equally between the winners, the other half goes to the guild bank for any guild related expenses.
wrapped up in some crazy ritualist hoo-ha from Cantha.
A real grab bag of ‘you can’t hurt me. They’re called Guardians.
Just to clarify a bit here, the drawings http://northernshiverpeaks.org hold are purely of the donated gem card type. While it’s absolutely true there could be a chance that the whole thing is a sham, I’ve given away several codes over the course of the game and have never had any issue. I’ve also done raffles where players buy tickets, fronted the money to the guild bank and any overage goes into guild influence or the like. But in the current scenario, just a couple rules and you’re entered.