Question about Zoom Unlocker

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Posted by: Sephrinx.2683

Sephrinx.2683

Is using the utility to increase your cameras zoom range considered advantageous or anything of the sort? I can’t stand how depressingly close you have to hover over your shoulder at all times. During events like Jormag, the camera allows you too zoom out a bit more, which is nice, but it never stays that way.

I read here that:

ArenaNet cannot approve or review or “vet” any third-party programs. Our general policy is that anything that gives advantage is forbidden; anything that imbalances the game in favor of one player over another is strictly disallowed. With that said, we are aware that some utilities help players without impacting others, that is, they do not give anyone an advantage over someone else.

I don’t see how zooming out a bit more or zooming in a bit more would give me any more of an advantage than anyone else (considering that it is also programmed into the game, if only temporarily). If I am wrong. Please, tell me now.

tl;dr – Will i get banned for using Zoom Unlocker? I want a straight answer please. If I will, let me know and I won’t use it. If not, hellz yeah! I can finally see! And I can get screenshots in Firstperson mode!!

(edited by Sephrinx.2683)

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Posted by: Lafiel.9372

Lafiel.9372

Yes you will…. zoom unlocker gives players unintended advantages in wvw (use skills over gates) or just a better vantage point due to more zoom than other players.

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Posted by: gassy.8975

gassy.8975

If they would just let people zoom in to first-person view already, the op’s question wouldn’t have to be asked. It gets annoying having my character in almost every screenshot!

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Posted by: Sephrinx.2683

Sephrinx.2683

Well, that is depressing. Guess I will spam them with

[Request] Further zoom options, as well as first person!

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Posted by: gassy.8975

gassy.8975

They’ve apparently said somewhere (can’t remember where I read it) that they are not currently considering offering a first-person view. The “reason,” and I use that term lightly because it seems fishy to me, is because they want the user to always see their character so they can connect with it, or something like that. My guess is they just don’t want to deal with the extra programming and testing involved.

They used to have an option where you could at least take screenshots without your character hogging up the screen, but they removed that.

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Posted by: Evolving Minotaur.6507

Evolving Minotaur.6507

Lafiel: Zoom unlocker does NOT make any changes to LOS. It will not, in any way, give a positioning advantage when shooting over walls. Also, the distance a foe can be detected from does not change either. The only advantage this mod gives in PVP and WvW is a better view of the battle field from the same angles already available to the person.

For example, If I was operating an arrow cart on the double gate of the north keep in EB, I could zoom out far enough to see invaders comming up the stairs from the water gate. Big deal. I will hear them pounding on the west gate 5 seconds after that anyways.

There are some very slight advantages but not nearly as big an advantage as a high end gaming rig has over a low end or mid range computer. Even now that culling is off, there is a huge descrepency in rendering time.

Two great players with optimal internet connections and the same gaming rig would not be effected at all by one of them using this mod. It doesn’t actually give an opposing player more ability, just slightly more usable information.

I never found the 1st person view useful for anything except getting a close up view of the detail on other toons armor, which I can/always could do by positioning my toon at the right angle. Being as this mod is an “unlocker” it must already be in the code. The 1st person view may be “locked” to prevent any pics being generated without the “copyrighted” toon in the middle of it.

The one advantage this mod does give is more noticable in PVE. One tactic I have not yet observed in WvW is 3-4 groups of 5 toons setting up an ambush point, each group from a different direction. In PVE this is part of quite a few AI’s tactics and their code has been writen to make use of your limited range of vision (also the reason foes don’t appear as red dots on your mini map like they did in GW1). Although I don’t like being jumped, I like the illusion of surprise I feel from being jumped. I never felt overly cautious in GW1. A creepy but good change.

I will likely use this mod just for doing some “screen shot” mapping (especially in Cursed Shores) but because I actually have to turn it on after I have started GW2, I am more likely to play without it until I need it. Don’t worry Lafiel… I am much too busy in WvW to take in the scenery.

In truth, I don’t know if this mod would give much of an advantage in PvP as I have no intention of exploring this part of the game. It may not change line of sight but being able to see the entire arena (like we all could in GW1) might really change a persons strategy.

It will definately change the feel of the game in WvW and PvE but not to the degree it would make you a better player than you already are.

Having said all this, all mods are a violation of the ToS. While Arenanet has a relaxed view on mods in the spirit of fun, it is at their descretion whether they ban an account using ANY mod. There are no “legal” mods.

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Posted by: Loli Ruri.8307

Loli Ruri.8307

I find it interesting that there are people who want to zoom out more in this game, yet I want to see first-person.

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Posted by: Lafiel.9372

Lafiel.9372

Lafiel: Zoom unlocker does NOT make any changes to LOS. It will not, in any way, give a positioning advantage when shooting over walls. Also, the distance a foe can be detected from does not change either. The only advantage this mod gives in PVP and WvW is a better view of the battle field from the same angles already available to the person.

For example, If I was operating an arrow cart on the double gate of the north keep in EB, I could zoom out far enough to see invaders comming up the stairs from the water gate. Big deal. I will hear them pounding on the west gate 5 seconds after that anyways.

There are some very slight advantages but not nearly as big an advantage as a high end gaming rig has over a low end or mid range computer. Even now that culling is off, there is a huge descrepency in rendering time.

Two great players with optimal internet connections and the same gaming rig would not be effected at all by one of them using this mod. It doesn’t actually give an opposing player more ability, just slightly more usable information.

I never found the 1st person view useful for anything except getting a close up view of the detail on other toons armor, which I can/always could do by positioning my toon at the right angle. Being as this mod is an “unlocker” it must already be in the code. The 1st person view may be “locked” to prevent any pics being generated without the “copyrighted” toon in the middle of it.

The one advantage this mod does give is more noticable in PVE. One tactic I have not yet observed in WvW is 3-4 groups of 5 toons setting up an ambush point, each group from a different direction. In PVE this is part of quite a few AI’s tactics and their code has been writen to make use of your limited range of vision (also the reason foes don’t appear as red dots on your mini map like they did in GW1). Although I don’t like being jumped, I like the illusion of surprise I feel from being jumped. I never felt overly cautious in GW1. A creepy but good change.

I will likely use this mod just for doing some “screen shot” mapping (especially in Cursed Shores) but because I actually have to turn it on after I have started GW2, I am more likely to play without it until I need it. Don’t worry Lafiel… I am much too busy in WvW to take in the scenery.

In truth, I don’t know if this mod would give much of an advantage in PvP as I have no intention of exploring this part of the game. It may not change line of sight but being able to see the entire arena (like we all could in GW1) might really change a persons strategy.

It will definately change the feel of the game in WvW and PvE but not to the degree it would make you a better player than you already are.

Having said all this, all mods are a violation of the ToS. While Arenanet has a relaxed view on mods in the spirit of fun, it is at their descretion whether they ban an account using ANY mod. There are no “legal” mods.

I have seen screenshots and videos and know not this to be true in wvw. Besides, being able to see past a gate or how and where people are exactly on the top of the keep is already an advantage anyways. Regardless anyways, doesn’t change anything on Anet’s stand on this.

(edited by Lafiel.9372)

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Posted by: Moderator.1462

Moderator.1462

Hi everyone,

Here you have the third party programs policy from Anet. Remember if a 3rd party program gives you any kind of advantage over other players, please refrain from using it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Policy-3rd-Party-Programs-Multi-Boxing-Macros/first#post354869

Thanks for your understanding.
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