Guild Wars 2

Hi,

So I currently have an AMD Phenom II x6 1055T at stock speed, 2.8ghz, along with a single OC’d GTX 560 Ti by EVGA. I thought this would for sure be good enough on high settings with good FPS, but apparently not. With everything on high and FXAA off, I’m getting ~25-30 FPS at Lion’s Arch, yet I see people with Intel processors get 60 easily with a 560 Ti.

I was considering switching to an i5 2500k, which is pretty much the best gaming CPU, but that would require switching my mobo and reinstalling drivers, and that’s too big of a hassle.

So if I were to upgrade my 1055 to a Phenom x4 965, would that increase my FPS by much? Since I’ve also seen videos of people with 965’s and 560 Ti’s run at 60.

why would you need more than 30FPS for? really?

in La with my pc:
i3-3220
8gb ram
GTX 260
I get 35-45 fps depending on crowd.

So Your only choice Is to go for Intel.
Intel when it comes to signle threat processes is much faster by any AMD even from top shelf.
i’ve seen ppl with “better” and more expensive AMD CPUS like fx 8150 or fx 8350 or so having same fps then I do…

If I were You and had that money for an i5-2500k It’s just no brainer. Rush to store get it and take some cheaper mobo with 1600hz memory and you’ll see incredible FPS boost.

I’d give everything for i5-2500k

Don´t, just use the Turbo feature of your 1055 instead.
I made the error of “upgrading” from a x2 555 (overclocked @ 3.7ghz) to a x4 965 (3.4 stock) and I have worse FPS now.

Which is clearly due to some weird bug in this client as my cores aren´t even remotely used at peak clocks, but it shows how fickle this software is.

If you have around 30 in LA without the Turbo feature then start using that instead or switch to an Intel system and hope the performance bug misses you.
Upgrading to another Phenom is a waste of money, especially in your case.

The client doesn´t seem to use the 4th core that much anyway, so your 3 cores on turbo should very well do it.

U wont get steady 60fps in LA with any CPU up to date,most likelly a non overcloked intel cpu will give u 30% more FPS. i would say overclock ur cpu to 4ghz and wait either for a fix or a new cpu generation, new socket and such.

No point upgrading to a Phenom II 965.. I am actually using it.
Mine is overclocked to 4 ghz amd i am getting between 28-35 Center of LA (fountian/Statue area everything on High)
Was dropping ALLOT lower during the Halloween events.

Rampage.7145:

U wont get steady 60fps in LA with any CPU up to date,most likelly a non overcloked intel cpu will give u 30% more FPS. i would say overclock ur cpu to 4ghz and wait either for a fix or a new cpu generation, new socket and such.

Yes, you will. But you’ll need >4Ghz i7 to do it. This is with 1 x HD6970 @ 2560×1600. Even crowded LA it’s always >40fps.

shojikareza.1402:

why would you need more than 30FPS for? really?

-_- I’ve had enough of this “30 FPS is enough” thingy. You CAN’T compare 30 Game-FPS with 30 Video-FPS. In games everything below 60 FPS is a mess for the eyes.

My factory OC’d 560ti (950mhz core 4580mhz memory)gives me 30-60 fps in LA depending on where i look(1920×1080 Ultra settings(everything) native sampling). Some areas although heavily populated will give 60fps ..others with no1 insight will drop the fps. LA is limited by cpu mostly, not GPU. Even my 3930k at 4.6ghz is limiting my gpu in LA. So around 45fps average is likely what u will see unless you in LA during ofpeak times.

As for an upgrade. You unlikely to see much difference going AMD to AMD. You may see some but it will likely end up not being worth the money. If you can, save up some more and switch to Intel. Gaming wise, even AMD’s top gaming CPU doesnt compare to Intels mid range gaming CPU’s. This isnt fanboy’ism or a bias view btw..tis fact

Infinite.3260:

Hi,

So I currently have an AMD Phenom II x6 1055T at stock speed, 2.8ghz, along with a single OC’d GTX 560 Ti by EVGA. I thought this would for sure be good enough on high settings with good FPS, but apparently not. With everything on high and FXAA off, I’m getting ~25-30 FPS at Lion’s Arch, yet I see people with Intel processors get 60 easily with a 560 Ti.

I was considering switching to an i5 2500k, which is pretty much the best gaming CPU, but that would require switching my mobo and reinstalling drivers, and that’s too big of a hassle.

So if I were to upgrade my 1055 to a Phenom x4 965, would that increase my FPS by much? Since I’ve also seen videos of people with 965’s and 560 Ti’s run at 60.

Going from a 1055 to a 965 wouldn’t be a upgrade.
I recently upgraded from a 965 @ 3.8 ghz to a newly released Piledriver FX-8350 @5ghz. I made it a 4 core by disabling the second core of each module. (not turbo mode as that is 4 cores sharing 2 modules. 4m/4cores means no cores share resources and is much better. Also the performance per hz is better on a Piledriver.) and it runs Aaaawsome. Much better than the 965. Or you could wait for the 4370 to be released wich will be even better at games. And MUCH cheaper than going intel. Especially if you also have to change mobo… Intel motherboards are insanely high priced, and they are worse than the mobos from amd wich is much cheaper.
But don’t get the 1st gen bulldozer. Go piledriver if you wanna save money and hassle, and still get reasonable fps

The Thuban X6’s has a little more horsepower than the Denub X4’s do, that’s not really an upgrade aside going from 2.8GHz to 3.4GHz. Do you have an AM3+ motherboard? If so then look into an FX 4300 or 6300.

My X6 1090T plays the game well, the halloween event made it miserable for EVERYONE, but it’s better again. The Piledriver is a significant jump in many categories.

Metalphreak, 30fps is decent for most, don’t be spoiled by needing +60fps, as long as the gameplay is smooth @ 30fps it’s playable, and no it’s not a mess to the eye, are movies @ 24fps a mess to you?

Seriosly ..people need to stop comparing 24 fps movies to gameplay ..its TOTALY different.
30fps in games is slugish and visualy jerky. However it is deffinatly playable. 30fps is considered the MINIMUM playable framerate ..anything below that is not considered playable. I mean u can physicaly play at 20 fps ..but ur performance will be hampered simply becouse of the number of frames your limited to seeing and be able to react to.
You can argue the 30 fps limit if you like but every benchmark u look at (offical and unoffical) use 30 fps as the minimum playable frame rate and 60+ fps as the prefered.

We all know we wont get 60 fps ALL the time in GW2. but we can all say thats its possible to get 30fps + in ALL situations. .You just need a beafy OC’d Intel CPU atm

Cbuzz.5083:

Rampage.7145:

U wont get steady 60fps in LA with any CPU up to date,most likelly a non overcloked intel cpu will give u 30% more FPS. i would say overclock ur cpu to 4ghz and wait either for a fix or a new cpu generation, new socket and such.

Yes, you will. But you’ll need >4Ghz i7 to do it. This is with 1 x HD6970 @ 2560×1600. Even crowded LA it’s always >40fps.

No shadows no reflections lol even an i3 stock speed can do 40 FPS without those, besides ur FPS standing still is higher than moving arround. NO CPU will make 60 FPS stable in LA (decent graphics options enabled OFC u know game looks pretty bad without shaders and shadows), period. Save urself some money wait for Haswell CPUs and pray they overclock better than IVY.

Overclock ur CPU, u can get a 30$ cooler CM hyper 212EVO and even at 4ghz ur CPU will never go over 45c, and reach this clock speeds very easy, Phenoms2 overcloking is kitten easy to do. Follow those instructions, if u don’t really know anything about OCing read some guides about first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a7AxZJ7tWc&feature=plcp
But believe any CPU will have hard time playing this game. Save some money and wait for next gen CPUs, unless u are rich ofc, then but an i5 2550k or i7 2700k, along with a new high end mobo and overclock tha hell of those CPUs, but even doing that u will get very nasty FPS drops.

Yeah you shouldn’t expect more than 40fps in LA, here’s my screenshot I made tonight which is a huge improvement over the halloween events, I get 37-40fps around LA and about 70-100 out in pve (like Blazeridge Steppes, Cursed Shore, etc).

How good is that FX 8320 in WvW tekno, i understand u clokced it to 8350 speeds, what board do u have? Did u set game afinity to 1 core per module? Sorry for all this questions but those chips look very intersting to me hehehe (even tho 8 cores are uselss for games, it is pretty awesome u know),so i wanted to ask

BTW PhenomIIx6 1090t@4ghz+Radeon HD6950 screens, Note im not using FXAA cuz i have SweetyFX shader pack running which include SMAA (Looks way better than FXAA tbh)
It drops well close to 30s when moving the camera but standing still, old phenom can still pull decent frames.
Last image is using the same graph settings Cbuzz was using just to prove that point.

I’d look into those new FX-83xx chips they seem to be pretty solid this round and great OCers with low voltages even, getting a FX8350 to 4.6GHz on air is pretty easy, if your board can support AM3+ then I’d look into one of the FX8300s there about $220 atm on newegg, But if you can really swing a Big chunk of cash I’d go with an I7 OC that to 4.5GHz and call it good :P lolz. but the new FX8300s are cheaper :P just a thought lols.

Rampage.7145:

How good is that FX 8320 in WvW tekno, i understand u clokced it to 8350 speeds, what board do u have? Did u set game afinity to 1 core per module? Sorry for all this questions but those chips look very intersting to me hehehe (even tho 8 cores are uselss for games, it is pretty awesome u know),so i wanted to ask

It’s pretty good and rather comparable to the Phenom II X6 1090T and 1100T chips, right now there’s not many things to take advantage of 8 cores so disabling the odd number modules (down to 4 cores) gives you a boost in certain games (like GTA4 and Skyrim). I’m glad I skipped the Bulldozer chips, those were terrible (I built a few systems for people with those chips). The FX 6300 is actually a good chip too and fits right in where we are now.

Yeah go for the 8320, costs less than the 8350 and can still OC to 4.8GHz, I’m not big into overclocking as I used to be (I used to overclock dual 533MHz Celerons to 1.1GHz and such).

PS- another thing, Windows 8 doesn’t take advantage of the FX chips, even if you disable cores/modules, it acts like it has them enabled. Until then, stick to Windows 7 and the FX patches if you can find them, eventually Microsoft will come around to fixing the FX optimization for Windows.

1055t cheaper then I5 2500k thats why I5 2500k better then 1055t. So its not about Intel vs AMD its about money.

But the fact is game optimization is poor especially at high populated areas. So even after I5 upgrade you will not get 60 fps in LA you have to OC your CPU.

Game optimization isn´t only poor, it´s broken.

The game just throttles itself down seemingly on a whim. It´s got nothing to do with bottlenecks or any other problem on the client´s hardware.
Looks suspiciously like it somehow activates the framelimiter at arbitrary settings and just stays that way.
No matter what setting is on that useless options menu.

If you run with more than 2 cores you´re taking a gamble it seems.

HawkMeister.4758:

Game optimization isn´t only poor, it´s broken.

The game just throttles itself down seemingly on a whim. It´s got nothing to do with bottlenecks or any other problem on the client´s hardware.
Looks suspiciously like it somehow activates the framelimiter at arbitrary settings and just stays that way.
No matter what setting is on that useless options menu.

If you run with more than 2 cores you´re taking a gamble it seems.

I’m going to have to agree with this assessment, as recently I have noticed while playing I’ll have my usual 45-50+ constant FPS in PvE zones but then suddenly I’ll get a huge performance hit for no apparent reason. How ever this doesn’t happen often but none the less this is an issue that’s completely software related that they need to address.

To the OP, I had that processor and it’s ability to overlock is great. Search google for the overclocking forum and search there. You really don’t need an upgrade.