Thirst slayer
as far as i know the rule is 1 click per action e.g. you have to press a button everytime you want the game to know you pressed it so you wouldn’t be able to use this
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I want to do Thirst slayer achievement but as I count I need to click 300,000 times to do it (1 to buy and 2 to drink * 100,000 times). Ive got a special button on my mouse. If I hold it, it makes about 20 clicks per second. Am I allowed to use that? I really want to do that achi but I’m afraid of ban or sth.
You may not use any program or mechanical device that allows you to click more than once. It’s one key = one action.
not to suggest bad things here, as you should always abide by the user terms and end licence agreement, but one wonders if Anet would even bother investigating how fast someone choose to drink consumables. It doesn’t provide an in game advantage. It just reduces RSI.
I remember back in GW1, when Gaile was CRM, a similar question came up when I was sysop of the old official wiki and Gaile said, admittedly not unequivocally and im paraphrasing here, that botting and automation is bad, however things that provide no in game advantage to the player and is purely convenience based are unlikely to be pursued.
So although technically against the terms and conditions, I really don’t think anything bad would come of it. (and also how would they be able to determine it wasn’t just you bashing keys, mega fast?)
EDIT: just remembered what the discussion was about when this arose last time. Funnily enough it was about the old GW1 drinking achievement. That was a badly designed achievement as it required you spend a certain number of minutes drunk, which meant you needed to sit and wait for a minute to expire and use another drink, as the maximum mins you could stock was 5. The question was posed if it was okay to use a bot, which clicked once every minute, to get the achievement? Gaile responded with an unequivocal no, as it gave people an unfair advantage over those who didn’t use the bot and had to sit there for hours using a drink consumable every minute. A further question was raised about a similar achievement for party animal, which involved using fireworks and the like and automating that with a speed auto clicker to reduce RSI. This was considered to be different, as the achievement involved no time delay, it was just about using the consumables. Time investment wasn’t an aspect of that achievement and thus no user advantage from using an auto clicker to quickly use all the consumables. This conversation however was years ago, im surprised I still remember it to be honest.
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If you allow that Salome then using an autoclicker is allowed to ?
How would they be able to determine who is the one clicking ?
Unless they install a camera at the user’s end to film the screen of each player, they can’t make the difference between a human and a machine. Unless they look at the time between the 2 actions.
I’m sure it is pretty hard to do 20 clicks in 1 second as a human, so they can block that.
But then we have the problem that you can bind 2 keys to one action (It seems that this is allowed too…) So you can asign the mouse click to button 1 2 3 4 of the keyboard, and use 4 fingers at the same time to increase even more the number of actions you can do in 1 second.
Maybe nerds can even make phisical robot hads who can click the mouse for you at a high speed. But for me if they say 1 key = action then 1 action = 1 key otherwise it is pretty useless to forbid autoclickers since there are a lot of ways to get the same result.
well ultimately you could just attach clicking to your scroll wheel. That way you are still technically using 1 key for 1 action and its all manual. The only thing it changes is thakittens not a click motion its a scroll motion and is much faster.
Above I was just citing what I can remember from a previous discussion with Gaile, but that was from years ago and GW1 and GW2 are not the same I suppose.
However to be on the safe side, I would say if you assign clicking to your mouse wheel, then just use that. It is 1 key = 1 action then, it is just a less labour intensive key.
(more to the point why is it when I type that it’s not, without the apostrophe, it displays as thakittens?)
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(Because the forum think you write tha tit’s without the apostrophe :p)
I did mine over the course of a few days. It will wear out your fingers, but it should only need 99,999 clicks or less.
The drinks are weighted for value. Some count as one, some two, some three, and two sixteen (if I recall correctly – you can check on the wiki).
The fastest way I found to do it was with three point drinks. One click to buy, double click to consume. I did it in batches of 10,000 drink points at a time, any more and you risk your mouse exploding. You can buy them mechanically with your finger while watching TV or daydreaming as there is no need to move the mouse. Buy all 10k before drinking is my recomendation. Drinking is slower, but more fun if running about the maps with everything wavy (having a kite equiped helps too).
edit – This achievement really needs a title attached to it. I’d suggest “Sore Fingers”.
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that’s just daft as I can write tit’s but not tits!
Edit: wait, what?! it let me write tits! but not kittens. So as long as I’m mega excited about them then, its okay to type, but not if I’m not over enthusiastic about them. As a gay guy, I find that somewhat funny, however this forum being so broken, isn’t even near funny.
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Absolutely no sympathy from me at all. It’s called an “achievement” for a reason.
Use your finger and click the button just like everyone else.
If you think that is tough to click to get that achievement, you would never survive playing GW1.
to op, because of the amount of clicks it takes. I wanted to use something like that. Since there is so much speculation about what is acceptable or not on the forums. I sent in a ticket. The answer I got back, was no it is not acceptable and could possible lead to a perm ban….not exact words but along those lines. So I didn’t use it, took me a week or so to do all the clicking, as I could only stand to do so much at a time.