Guild Wars 2

With my FX-8350 at 4.1GHz I get some 15-20 fps whereas with my Phenom II X6 at 3.3 GHz I get 30-35. Same settings, same OS, same graphics card, same software, etc.

Ideas?

Deathwing.5210:

With my FX-8350 at 4.1GHz I get some 15-20 fps whereas with my Phenom II X6 at 3.3 GHz I get 30-35. Same settings, same OS, same graphics card, same software, etc.

Ideas?

My computer specs:

AMD FX – 8350 @ 4ghz (4.2)
OS: win 7 home 64-bit
RAM: 8GB
HDD: 500GB @7200rpm
GPU: nvidia gtx 760 2gb
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I am not experiencing low fps but I have not done WvW yet.
Everything is on High except the following: Reflections = off, LOD = low, FXAA = off.

I am getting 75-120FPS usually around 60-80 in cities.

Also I just starting playing and would like to know what areas you are getting low FPS so I can check those out for myself.

Good! Tell me more about your system. Perhaps you can help me fix it on my side then. I have seen that my PCI-e link is at 2.0 2x instead of 3.0 16×. Do you think this could have anything to do? How is it that I only experience this with GW2 and not with any other game?

Deathwing.5210:

Good! Tell me more about your system. Perhaps you can help me fix it on my side then. I have seen that my PCI-e link is at 2.0 2x instead of 3.0 16×. Do you think this could have anything to do? How is it that I only experience this with GW2 and not with any other game?

My gpu is only running at x4 2.0 and my AMD FX -8350 has all cores unparked. But the FPS reporting i’ve only been around maybe 20 ppl. As I’ve stated I have not been to WvW So I am sure my fps will tank down to 30 maybe even lower. but with your set-up there is no reason to not be able to get 60+FPS in most zone.

FX series processors today are an interestingly executed concept for a processor compared to how they were going about with the Phenom II processors.

AMD wanted to build something for the future, figuring a more multi cored processor to be there and ready when software starts taking the multi-core way. They essentially took one core and broke it into two parts. This also unfortunately cut the performance of the single thread portion of the core but it gained the HSA technology that AMD enthusiasts like to go off about sometimes.

I don’t remember too much details but essentially it’s about a third, give or take a bit less in single thread performance than the Phenoms for DX9 games, such as Guild Wars 2.

In a way, the FX-8##0/9##0 processors are ‘eight core’ processors but in a way they could be known as quad cores with their own sort of multi thread gig going where the Phenom II X6 is an actual six core processor I saw this same thing with the game Defiance when I used an AMD Phenom II 975BE and then upgraded to the FX-8350. Defiance became very slideshow in large player population events.

Baseline, however, to see relatively the same frame rates, you’d have to overclock that sucker to 5.5 GHz or something to start seeing similar FPS.
So far as it looks, Phenom II was the final CPU era that was designed with large use of Driect X 9 use in mind.

Edit, in response to a few more recent messages,
Both of my R9 290X run at 8x mode in 3.0 slots in crossfire mode all the time. Though if you had a GPU that was running at 4x lanes I couldn’t imagine there being a huge drop in performance if you were using a very high end graphics card that could compensate for it’s speed being essentially cut in half.

For the record though, running at 8x lanes is very normal if anyone is wondering. the only time you’d see a graphics card actually take advantage of all 16x lanes if it’s in that mode is if it were a dual chip graphics card like GTX 690, R9 295X2, etc. Or maybe an incredibly high end single chip card like a GTX Titan Black.

just realize i had my GPU in the x4 lane. going to move it to the x16 lane

FIXED now my gpu runs at 16x 2.0 seems to increased my FPS slightly though.

First, megahertz, now gigahertz myth. Two different CPU architectures do not have the same performance at the same speed. An FX series CPU needs roughly 1/3rd more clock speed for the same performance over a Phenom II. Conversely an Intel Haswell core only needs 1/2 the clock speed of a Phenom II to do the same amount of work.

Second, GW2 while multithreaded (split into over 40 threads) and can use all 8 cores in the FX-8350, the bulk of the work is done by only 3 threads for roughly 2 cores worth of work. The remaining threads together can occupy fully one additional core and change. That’s why performance gain drops off past 3 cores.

If you thought more cores would help, in GW2’s case it doesn’t. If you thought 4.1GHz Vs 3.3GHz meant better performance, no it doesn’t, FX is less efficient per clock than a Phenom II.