Guild Wars 2

looking for a new gaming pc that can handle gw2 at medium or high settings… im curently looking at the following:
CyberpowerPC Gamer Xtreme GUA250 w/ AMD FX-4100 3.6GHz Gaming Computer
Processor Speed: 3.60 GHz
Processor Model: FX-4100
Processor Core: Quad-core (4 Core)
Processor Speed: 3.60 GHz
HyperTransport Speed: 2000 MHz
64-bit Processing: Yes
Chipset Manufacturer: AMD
Chipset Model: 760G
Standard Memory: 8 GB
Memory Technology: DDR3 SDRAM
Number of Total Memory Slots: 2
Total Hard Drive Capacity: 1 TB
Graphics Controller: NVIDIA GeForce GT520
is this a good pc for gw2? let me know if you need more info

yes, it will be able to handle GW2 at high settings.
i’ll take a wild guess and say it will run @55-60FPS (v-sync: on /framelimit: 60) most of the time during PvE.

just googled that system…pretty solid PC for it’s price.
i’m waiting for the guys who will recommend you all kinds of hardware instead of this ready-to-use desktop-PC…but it’s your taste and buisness.

wauwi is overly optimistic, sorry, but its true, people with cpu’s and gpu’s far more powerful cant sustain 55-60fps in pve DE’s let alone WvWvW.

its not a bad system, but, depending on your budget you could probably do a bit better.

if considering the naked numbers like CPU and GPU frequencies for instance, OP’s desired desktop PC is pretty similiar to mine.
and GW2 runs @60FPS during most of PvE, @55FPS at LA and 40FPS @WvWvW on high settings with reflections set to “terrain&sky”.
now, i can even turn the texture filtering quality back to “quality” since the latest driver update at my nvidia-cp without loosing 5~8FPS
some areas which causes bad framerate drops had been fixed and optimized too recently.
so im sure that at least ~50FPS is completely possible on high settings.
then do some tweaking, a little bit here and there, and it performs great unless GW2.exe is bottlenecking (oh gawd i just said the bad “b” word -_-)

DE’s can’t be compared to WvWvW…those are two completely different dimensions.
maybe your server is just THAT crowded…

sure, nobody can exactly tell how a system will perform the first time turning it on, until you plug it in, press the power button and do some PC stuff with it

wauwi is wrong. The CPU is good enough with a decent card you should expect 30-60 FPS on high, but that card is not anywhere good enough. What’s your total budget to work with?

As Guy said above, the CPU is alright. The glaring problem is the GT520, its a media card, not a gaming card, you can probably get away with low/medium settings. I would recommend at least a GTX 650Ti.

Like others have said. The CPU is ok. Not great but should do the the job. The GPU on the other hand is no good for gaming really. Be great for movie’s etc. I’d get a 5 or 6 series gpu. A 560 or 660 would be a great buy. There medium spec gpu’s which will be ok for GW2. Just dont expect them to play games like Crysis 2 with playable fps. Unless everything is on low.

GPU needs to be at minium a X50ti (for Nvidia), or a X7XX or higher for AMD. personaly i would recommend a 7870 Tahiti LE as its a really nicely priced card and has great performance on par with a 660ti.

The CPU ‘will do’ but dont expect much in WvW , it WILL drop below 30 fps in big zergs even if u OC it. There are betetr choices out there but they cost more, if u went with one of the other choice u could expect WvW to stay above 30 fps in big battles and average 45 in mid sized battles, again though it comes at a cost.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103462 that would probably be a better buy then the 4100 system you are looking at
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202011

I would replace the ram in the system with a decent 16gb kit, the ram they used is 3×4gb sticks that are likely slow(but the one your looking at would use Meh ram as well, its the norm for prebuilds.)

this costs more but comes with everything you would need
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258023

if you can swing it, this is a much better buy
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883258010

it comes with 1/2 decent liquid cooling, an xfx 7770, the board allows for overclocking(its a pretty decent matx gigabyte board)

now for the money, you could build your own that would be better bang for the buck, but prebuilds, the stuff I linked would be your best bets

if i where building for somebody on a budget, i would probably suggest something like the following

asrock 970 extreme4(amazing board for the price) can do 8x-8x crossfire
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157262

if your wanting to be a bit more serious about a build and can swing the extra cost
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157266
thats the 990fx extreme4, one of the better overclocking boards on the market.

the 3rd motherboard option is new
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157358
990fx extreme9, so far its got a really good oc rep. (being its so close to price of the extreme4, i would probably get it over the 4)

I would get the fx6300 over the 4000 series,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113286
having used the above chip in a recent build for an old friend(in the 990fx extreme4) its very very easy to overclock even with stock cooling, and can easily push this or any other game on the market once you get it to 4+ghz…and thats a VERY easy overclock…no effort at all, we did it at stock volts just changed the clocks.

for 30usd more you can get the 8320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113285
it may be worth considering depends on budget, again, every one of these I have seen will do 4-4.2 range on stock volts with stock cooling.

cheap but ok case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811192289

750watt psu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121085
before anybody bad mouths the brand, kingwin have been around for a long time, this is a superflower build, very solid psu, i Have used kingwin superflower builds for decades now…work great very low fail rate.

16gb cas9 ddr3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820313288
good value and you can add a 2nd kit later for 32gb.

videocard budget option
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202011
7770 ghz edition sapphire

Videocard optimal
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202024
7870 1536 shader version

if you look around you may find a deal like I got a while back on orignal 7870’s for 209 each, if you can get them at that price or lower go for it, great cards!!!)

for HDD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149382
toshiba drives have a better warr then seagates, also this ones got a promo code but depends on where you are in the world, im just giving you ideas.

with the config i setup going 7770 the cost is 682.92usd

thats extreme 9+8320+16gb ram+7770+750psu+case

if you bump that to the 7870 it would be 827.92usd at current prices.

if you add a 3rd party cooler that will allow 4.5-4.8ghz overclock that will cost you another 65ish http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233087&Tpk=xigmatek%20aegir

just my suggestions, you can do better on case quality wise but it will cost more, this all depends on budget…

ok hi guys thanks for all the info i learned alot from you guys comments… soo i found these two pcs 1 of them was given from you guys and the other was found by me googling it…
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883103462
Built-In Graphics Card Model: NVIDIA GeForce GT610
idk if the graphic card is better but its a bigger number gt 610 lold
if you guys want to see more feel free to just copy and paste the name above

and
http://www.target.com/p/ibuypower-gaming-pc-power-tg749-with-amd-fx-4100-processor-1tb-hard-drive-8gb-memory-black/-/A-14307425?ref=tgt_adv_XSG10001&AFID=Froogle_df&LNM=%7C14307425&CPNG=Electronics&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=14307425
wich one would be better?
i think there both a little better than the first one i choss . feel free to copy and paste this one too if youd like
oh and i just found this one on craigslist
http://cleveland.craigslist.org/syd/3529637032.html

The gt 520 is slower than AMD integrated graphics by, a lot, so i would say it would probably run GW at the minimum settings, but nothing enjoyable tbh, a 100$ card can run the game on high so i don’t see a good reasson to buy such a low end videocard, get a GTX 650 or a HD 7750 those are very cheap and will make justice to this game’s nice graphics. GT 610 is a very poor performing card aswell, so if u are like really tight on budget i don’t think a prebuilt system will fill ur gaming needs at the 500$ range.
I think for that money u could probabably build a AMD APU bassed system or put 100$ more and get a decent videocard.

I found you a better option meatynuts

go here
http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Back_To_School_2013

you will have to change default config, you want minimum of a 6300, prefered a 8320 or 8350 cpu

you know what heres what I would do, I do admit its over what your looking at cost wise, but, my advice is save up.

CPU: AMD FX-6100 3.30 GHz Six-Core AM3+ CPU 6MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
HDD: 2TB (2TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 7200RPM HDD 0] (Single Drive)
MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/2133MHz Dual Channel Memory [17] (Corsair or Major Brand)
MOTHERBOARD: [CrossFireX] GIGABYTE GA-970A-UD3 AMD 970 Socket AM3+ ATX Mainboard w/ On/Off Charge, Ultra Durable™3, 7.1 Audio, GbLAN, IEEE1394a, 2 Gen2 PCIe X16, 3 PCIe X1 & 2 PCI 6]
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [22] (Major Brand Powered by AMD)

thats gonna be your best bet for a prebuild(a build you dont gotta do yourself) and comes with 3 year warr and water cooling standard.

You got some great pc’s to choose from buddy. Hope ya fine one thats suits ya.

Only thing i dont understand is why people are recommending Amd over Intel. I’d get a cheap Intel i5 2500k. Thats the lowest i’d go and it would give anything AMD has to offer a good trashing.

Because the FX-8350 is pretty cheap, and can run GW2 all maxed.
It is also a very high processor, by default it runs already at 4.0 Ghz, and has 8 cores. Intel are still stuck at 4 …. And 8 physical cores are still better than 8 logical ones. But now, all gw2 pro’s will say that single core is bad. Well maybe it is for GW2, but programs like photoshop are faster on AMD than on a Intel of the same price. Some people have to open their eyes, and realise that not everyone uses a bad kitten desktop for just GW 2 :p
So the FX-8350 + sapphire vapor-x hd 7970 will run the game maybe not with every tiny setting on max in WvW, but it will give you pretty nice graphics without spending 900$ on an intel system.

In fact in 2 or 3 years when new consoles comes out and multithreaded games becomes mainstream FX processors will still run every game out there while i3s or low end i5 won’t so actually AMD is just way ahead of intel in the budget sector, in fact thanks to AMD u guys can actually buy gaming capable computers starting at 500$ Back in the 90s when AMD wasn’t arround a celeron chip alone cost 1000$, my first laptop PIII 800mhz CPU costed me over 5000$ so yeah AMD is probably the best thing ever happened to mainstream computer market.
AMD is allways the best bang for the buck u will get by far when buying a gaming or non gaming PC, they are highlly upgradeable 3/4 year old 790/890 series mobo still support latest FX CPUs, how many of u intel fanboys got to upgrade from ur old core2/1st gen i3/i5/i7 to ivy?
Anyway AMD offers more for the money, whoever don’t see that or don’t understand why ppl recomend AMD just shows infinite ignorance about computers.

ok thanks guys i finnaly know what im going to do
im going to end up prob spending more than what a bargained for but i guess its worth it
https://www.walmart.com/cart2/cartCmd.do

You can’t link to your cart. Why not give us a budget so we can spec something out for you. I would avoid anything sold by wallyworld.

For around $700 depending on what u can salvage form ur current rig (like HDD’s and Optical drives) and sales. You can build urself a rig that would blitz any of the prebuilt ones u have looked at. Building a computer is like putting lego together, its rather simple once u start. Computer building looks more complicated than it actually is.

You could get:
CPU: Intel 3570k
Cooler: Coolermaster Evo 212
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77
RAM: Corsair/Gskill/Muchskin 1600mhz 8 or 16gb
PSU: Corsair/ Seasonic 600W
GPU: AMD 7870 Tahiti LE (Sapphire XT or Club3D Joker)
Case: Coolermaster HAF 912 / Storm

That would be a very sorted rig.

Building a computer is not hard but you have to know what’s compatible and the dos and don’ts. The more difficult part is troubleshooting something that goes wrong. There’s a lot of prebuilt systems out there that wont cost you much more than building it yourself.

Give us a budget.

A big part of why alot of us link AMD systems is that for your money on prebuilds AMD tend to be better values.

and SolarNova, if you look at the prices hes linking, thats outside his price range.

really his best bet is the cyberpowerpc since he dosnt want to build himself, they are as close to a custom build as you will find online and reasonable prices to boot(honestly they are reasonable, take a look)

I dont push people who are afrade to build their own to do it, because enlarge they wont do it due to fear…..better to just give them options.

to the OP, look at the link I provided, you can build similar to what I suggested for a reasonable price and it will last you years.

Oh all next gen consoles will have AMD APU’s in them (a8 or a10 or better) as well as the likely hood of a standalone videochip(rumours of possible use of a 7770) this will drive game developers to actually use more threads and modern gfx api’s (DX11 Support finely!!!)