Guild Wars 2

I’m trying to decide between the two cards in the title. Details:

I just upgraded my system and now have:
i5 3570K, at stock speed
Gigabyte H61M-DS2 mb
4G Ram
Vista 32-bit

I also bought a Gigabyte 650Ti OC. But when I try to play GW2, after a few minutes, the computer just reboots. No Blue Screen (yes I have enabled it to show) or anything, just bam – reboot. And in the Event Viewer all it says is, “The previous system shutdown at <time and date> was unexpected.” (It only does this with GW2 trying to run – even when I just let it sit at the character screen. Just browsing internet or whatever – no reboot.)

If I put in my old video card, Radeon 6450, GW2 works fine.

So first question, I’m assuming that is my power supply not being able to power the 650Ti when GW2 puts it under load, yes? The PS does have the specs to power the card but it is 6 -7 years old.

I’m being cheap as you can tell by my MB choice and sticking with my old Vista 32-bit. I’m not overclocking, not tweaking, nothing fancy. I just want to play GW2 with decent framerates. I didn’t want to have to buy a new power supply because they’re expensive. But since I do have to buy one, my question is this:

I found a 560Ti that is Refurbished for $90. My 650Ti cost $108 and it was open box so I can just take it back. Now normally I don’t buy refurbished electronics because “refurbished = broken” in my mind. But that’s a great deal.

Would the 560Ti give me better framerates in WvW (what I mainly play)? I’ve read the comparisons and seen the charts that put the 560Ti above the 650Ti but I also know that GW2 is different when it comes to performance, especially in WvW.

Anyone have any experience in GW2 with one or bother of these two cards and an i5 3570K at stock? Especially in WvW. Or opinions – is it worth the risk to go for the refurbished 560Ti?

First of all 32 bits=low performance, so for start upgrade to 64 bits asap, then the 560ti consumes a lot more power than a 650ti does, u would need arround a 650w certified PSU to run the 560ti with a decent headroom. The 550ti can rukitten50w easy, so if power is a consideration u have that right there. The 560ti will smoke the 650ti but at high heat and power cost. The latest generation of cards is allways the best choice to me, more efficient cards, they offer better drivers support and ofc better GPU tech overall.
So to me stick with the 650ti, buy a cheap 30$, coolermaster 550w power supply, and upgrade to win 8/7 64 bits (this will give u a decent boost in games, and overall system happiness).

No.

The 650ti , specialy a OC’d version, will be as fast as a stock 560ti. But a OC’d vs OC’d the 560ti will be better performance wise.

Also the 650ti requirs ALOT less power when compared to a 560ti. I think its somthing like 90w vs 200w at high loads.

You could look into getting the new 650ti Boost edition.

For WvW the GPU isnt really that important, it ur CPU that matters. But with the latest patch to GW2, the new culling options pritty much make it imposible to build any rig that can keep frame rates above 30 in zergs on max settings. Its possible to get it to 30+ with the culling options on (so u cull textures and/or character models) but then u start having the issue of invisible players.

SolarNova.1052:

No.

The 650ti , specialy a OC’d version, will be as fast as a stock 560ti. But a OC’d vs OC’d the 560ti will be better performance wise.

This is false, the 650ti is as fast as the 560ti only in a scenario with no filters aka no AA no AF and low resolution rendering, when memory comes to play the 560ti ( even the 560 non ti will beat it by a good 20/30%) will smoke any 650ti no matter how OCed it is due the low end memory interface, don’t spread false knowleadge. 650ti GPU itself is good but it is a low end card, it is not made for high resolutions or good ammount of filters the 560ti does.

6450 31 WATTS 650ti 110 WATTS 560ti 170 WATTS
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