Guild Wars 2

I would just like to know if there is an ongoing effort on Arena Nets part to improve the performance compatibility of AMD CPUs for Guild Wars 2

Only with AMD CPUS? hahahahaha
i want to know when they will improve EVERYTHING about performance

AMD CPUs… this is a bit broad. Although, in general AMD CPUs are an economical choice. As such we inherently give up quality of gameplay to save money.

ArenaNet has stated they are constantly working to improve their engine’s performance. That is the likely response to this question which includes any budget CPU.

That said, I have read a number of users with AMD rigs that are playing just fine, albeit most are overclocked.

Swedemon.4670:

AMD CPUs… this is a bit broad. Although, in general AMD CPUs are an economical choice. As such we inherently give up quality of gameplay to save money.

ArenaNet has stated they are constantly working to improve their engine’s performance. That is the likely response to this question which includes any budget CPU.

That said, I have read a number of users with AMD rigs that are playing just fine, albeit most are overclocked.

True but if I am using a processor that refuses to use 100% of its operating capacity on a game (it necks at 60%) then the game is not using it to its fullest potential.

KrgWOW.9126:

Only with AMD CPUS? hahahahaha
i want to know when they will improve EVERYTHING about performance

Indeed I would like to know the same, the game runs pretty bad.

Now I know there are folks worse off then me, but I honestly think my FPS should stop dipping so often to 30-40 range and down to 20 when zerging, there are ways to scale LOD when there is a ton of action going on, many MMOs have accomplished this sort of optimization

Agreed, but that gets into a number of other factors. The same situations folks are encountering in the low fps thread even for high-end intel CPU’s with high end GPU’s.

Normally, that indicates a bottleneck probably due to a hardware or driver unrelated to the CPU.

Swedemon.4670:

Agreed, but that gets into a number of other factors. The same situations folks are encountering in the low fps thread even for high-end intel CPU’s with high end GPU’s.

Normally, that indicates a bottleneck probably due to a hardware or driver unrelated to the CPU.

Very true, I just wish an awesome game could awesomely run 100% of the time, I would be completely satisfied with a steady 50 FPS

Oh and how screwed up is it that when i set everything to the lowest settings I still get the same exact performance dips?

Yeah that’s screwed up. I’d be very curious if someone with your exact rig is playing fine, and then to find out what is different… It could be something you’d normally unsuspect like the power supply is insufficient or an audio driver is bottlenecking the game.

Swedemon.4670:

Yeah that’s screwed up. I’d be very curious if someone with your exact rig is playing fine, and then to find out what is different… It could be something you’d normally unsuspect like the power supply is insufficient or an audio driver is bottlenecking the game.

Dude I totally relate to ‘audio driver bottle necking the game’ holy crap I tried to play Champions Online a year ago but NOPE.avi my motherboards sound card model was specifically incompatible with the combo of 64 bit version of WinXP an CO, so it muted my audio and send me into 10 fps hell.

AND I PAID FOR THAT GAME WHEN IT WASN’T FREE.

Well I was experimenting the other day, put the audio quality slider half way and gained a few FPS just by doing that. So audio is definitely in play here.

I just want to know how you screw up something like this. Now see I am an electrical engineer so I don’t understand the complexities of coding as much as I understand how a high power transformer uses electromagnetic field coils to step up power, but there are MMOs that do this the RIGHT way at launch.

If I were you I’d try disabling audio at different levels. Adjust resolutions, try to zero in on what is the limiting factor. Obviously, drop shadows to none, that usually has a large impact on my experience and it appears (and from what I’ve read) it is mostly CPU bound.

Adjust your graphics software settings to see how it impacts the game, and anything else that comes into play from start to finish.

Then again, there are MMOs that do other things much worse. But all in all – we all will get there one day, in a few years all of us will have new rigs and THEN we will blast each other into smithereens in W3 at 50FPS. Not 60 though.

Swedemon.4670:

If I were you I’d try disabling audio at different levels. Adjust resolutions, try to zero in on what is the limiting factor. Obviously, drop shadows to none, that usually has a large impact on my experience and it appears (and from what I’ve read) it is mostly CPU bound.

Adjust your graphics software settings to see how it impacts the game, and anything else that comes into play from start to finish.

I keep shadows on low, because to be honest the game is so fast paced you don’t need dynamic shadows for it to look good

Interesting update, I just ramped all of my video cards driver settings to MAX QUALITY!
And Ill be dipped, i got MORE FPS and a SMOOTHER gameplay experience! I thought ‘Performance’ woulda gotten me more FPS….its wild man.

However the waterfalls in the Ascalon Catacombs central room are some kind of buggy particle effect that sucks down FPS pretty bad, the fight with the king was around, what, like 30-40 FPS, everywhere else in the dungeon was a respectable 50 to 60, and now in the feild im getting 50-60, and when zerging a gate in WvWvW im up to 25 FPS!!!

This has made my day, still needs work, but i got my game to look supah shiny and run a little better

Anet really need to look into better optimizing the multicore and such on AMD cpus.

Tomshardware did a testing for this game and all AMD CPUs were doing horrible every tho this game uses all the cores. The pentiums 2 cores were 50% faster than the AMD Llano 4 cores, in single core performance, the AMD system should only be 10-20% slower than the intel’s but With 4 cores, the AMD system should be able to at least keep up with the intel system since the game is using the cores.

There is also the anomaly of overclocking 30% on a cpu and get 70% more performance, that just does not happen with a cpu unless something is seriously wrong with the code. Increase in performance is linear with increase in clock speed if other bottlenecks aren’t present.

Currently I can hardly play this game on my laptop even tho it should have much more processing power than I need simply because I have an AMD cpu in there.

VormundGeist.3876:

Swedemon.4670:

AMD CPUs… this is a bit broad. Although, in general AMD CPUs are an economical choice. As such we inherently give up quality of gameplay to save money.

ArenaNet has stated they are constantly working to improve their engine’s performance. That is the likely response to this question which includes any budget CPU.

That said, I have read a number of users with AMD rigs that are playing just fine, albeit most are overclocked.

True but if I am using a processor that refuses to use 100% of its operating capacity on a game (it necks at 60%) then the game is not using it to its fullest potential.

Using CPU at 100% is a sign of bottleneck afaik It shouldnt use that much of a cpu at any game… Not even cpu bound ones.. However, the game engine should start using a bit more of the gpu it currently uses 30% of it on the high end cards which is unacceptable.

Swedemon.4670:

AMD CPUs… this is a bit broad. Although, in general AMD CPUs are an economical choice. As such we inherently give up quality of gameplay to save money.

ArenaNet has stated they are constantly working to improve their engine’s performance. That is the likely response to this question which includes any budget CPU.

That said, I have read a number of users with AMD rigs that are playing just fine, albeit most are overclocked.

AMD rig here (nothing OC’d either). Playing everything maxxed and smooth as butter. My rig chews up any game I throw at it. I think some of the issues stem when people get AMD CPUs and Mobos but then get an Nvidia GPU. I typically keep it “all in the family” so to speak. In other words, If I get an AMD CPU and Mobo, then I’ll use an AMD GPU. If I have an Intel CPU and Mobo then I’ll use Nvidia GPUs.

In any case, no overclocking and playing the game at highest settings with no problems.

I dunno specifics in the case here.
What I do know is forum after game forum (different games) AMD CPU systems users
are the ones barking about poor performance. I can cite one recent example as it is
fairly fresh in my memory , Saints Row the Third.

I would caution ANYONE thinking of building a nice new shiney GAMING centric
PC to think hard before going with AMD CPUs.

I"m not a AMD hater. I have two other PC"s in this house that have AMD CPU’s. One is a laptop, not used for gaming other than solitare like things, and a bedroom PC who’s main job is multimedia and recording of cable programs. AMD works fine there, quite happy with it.

For my gaming PC I did the leg work years ago to learn which was best. I made the switch to Intel on those machines not long after the years of the 486 architecture years.
Latest Intel I5 and later series just a flat out far superior for a serious game machine.

Yes, feel free to disagree. Feel free to pay attention to hundreds of game forums and find like me, who is it that seems to have the most problems when it comes to poor
game performance as it relates to the CPU. AMD.

I hope Arena Net can nail it down for you that have the systems. I really do.

Saints Row Three developers never did, nor have other game companies. I can’t begin
to characterize why that is, it just is.
There is only one thing in common in the cases I’ve seen, and it isn’t Intel gaming grade CPUS.

Uzi.5364:

I dunno specifics in the case here.
What I do know is forum after game forum (different games) AMD CPU systems users
are the ones barking about poor performance. I can cite one recent example as it is
fairly fresh in my memory , Saints Row the Third.

I would caution ANYONE thinking of building a nice new shiney GAMING centric
PC to think hard before going with AMD CPUs.

I"m not a AMD hater. I have two other PC"s in this house that have AMD CPU’s. One is a laptop, not used for gaming other than solitare like things, and a bedroom PC who’s main job is multimedia and recording of cable programs. AMD works fine there, quite happy with it.

For my gaming PC I did the leg work years ago to learn which was best. I made the switch to Intel on those machines not long after the years of the 486 architecture years.
Latest Intel I5 and later series just a flat out far superior for a serious game machine.

Yes, feel free to disagree. Feel free to pay attention to hundreds of game forums and find like me, who is it that seems to have the most problems when it comes to poor
game performance as it relates to the CPU. AMD.

I hope Arena Net can nail it down for you that have the systems. I really do.

Saints Row Three developers never did, nor have other game companies. I can’t begin
to characterize why that is, it just is.
There is only one thing in common in the cases I’ve seen, and it isn’t Intel gaming grade CPUS.

You sir,should open your eyes and learn to read the forums.People with intels mostly complain about bad performance aswell,its the engine,not the cpu’s.My fx 8120 runs this game butter smooth.Stop giving bad advice to people,AMD’s are perfectly fine for gaming.

AMD user here, game runs good for me, 30-35 fps in big battles in WvW but it’s still extremely playable, hell I even get 115 fps in Heart of the Mist. CPU and GPU are both getting heavily used as you can see in my picture (which means I’m not hitting a bottleneck… yet). I use an external Steelseries USB audio dongle and the audio slider in the game is left at the middle, I did slide it to best quality and didn’t notice that much of a difference.

And my specs are a bit lower than some of those that are having alot of trouble with the game’s performance, this is mind boggling.

VormundGeist.3876:

I just want to know how you screw up something like this. Now see I am an electrical engineer so I don’t understand the complexities of coding as much as I understand how a high power transformer uses electromagnetic field coils to step up power, but there are MMOs that do this the RIGHT way at launch.

Oh, please share all these “MMOs that do this the RIGHT way at launch”, all these supposed MMOs that didn’t have performance issues when they were released.

There is no MMO that launches perfectly for everyone right out of the gate. Hell, there is no PC game period that does this.

It is impossible for a PC gaming company to foresee incompatibilities with every conceivable hardware combination.

My wife has Intel CPU. Core i3 and 6Gb memory. And i have AMD Phenom II X4 B55 and 12 Gb Memory. We have same GPU. And She has 10 fps more than I. Godkitten#8230; :P