Guild Wars 2

Original dual core, 3gig (around that, can’t remember) 4gig or ram, ATI 5550. I “think” the CCC and drivers was version 11.8 (so old, was lazy). Quite a few windows updates not done either.

New computer (Still not great I know!) quad core around 3 gig, 8gb RAM, ATI 6670.
Everything updated to latest.

Yet, I’m getting almost identical FPS settings. I have no overclocked the card, nor did I the last. I’ve bumped the sliders up and seen a slight improvement, but I’ve never really trusted doing it so put it back to default. I’ve also put it all on performance settings in CCC while on the older 5550, I had a few tweaked to quality.

I’m not interested in “that’s a crap card, get blah blah instead” I’m not going to give a TLDR as to why I’ve got it, but it is what it is, and it is meant to be better than the 5550.

Any help as to why please?

I’m thinking CPU bottleneck or drivers… The 6670 is definitely a step up from a 5550, but what EXACTLY were the models of the CPUs, and what drivers are you running?

Before doing anything about the computers, make sure you get the newest driver from AMD’s web site (NOT the CD or from the company that built the computer).

See Page 7 of the Tom’s Hardware article " Guild Wars 2: Your Graphics Card And CPU Performance Guide". If you “upgraded” from an Intel Core i3 (dual core) to an AMD quad core, then I won’t be surprised if you don’t notice a difference.

What are the CPU models? Both video cards are not really performance gaming cards, but of course the 6670 should out perform the 5550.

3GB is not really ideal, but it would be helpful to know the OS in both scenarios…

NibriAyid.3680:

I’m thinking CPU bottleneck or drivers… The 6670 is definitely a step up from a 5550, but what EXACTLY were the models of the CPUs, and what drivers are you running?

Before doing anything about the computers, make sure you get the newest driver from AMD’s web site (NOT the CD or from the company that built the computer).

See Page 7 of the Tom’s Hardware article " Guild Wars 2: Your Graphics Card And CPU Performance Guide". If you “upgraded” from an Intel Core i3 (dual core) to an AMD quad core, then I won’t be surprised if you don’t notice a difference.

I already told you what drivers they were, 11.8 on the 5550 and the latest for the new one, unless they’ve updated in the last couple hours. Of the top of my head it might be 12.8 but whatever, it’s the latest, from the site.

Both windows 7.

I don’t remember the make of the 5550, it’s not with me anymore, I’d take a gamble and say the same since it was the same place I got them from pre-built (My only 2 times I’ve ever bought a prebuilt in 20 or so years, but I had no choice, that story is irrelevant anyway :p)

and it is an i5 quad core-2320.

Loading speeds is a major improvement though, it’s just FPS, and I only get 10 if I’m VERY lucky by overclocking to the max on the GPU.

The ATI 6670 is your bottleneck. What resolution are you gaming at?

You can check this article to see how the 6670 compares to other cards:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/guild-wars-2-performance-benchmark,3268.html

Well that;s pretty much irrelevant. Same res as I was running with the 5550. 1920×1024.

And also, the older card isn’t on that list.

Izziee.8392:

Well that;s pretty much irrelevant. Same res as I was running with the 5550. 1920×1024.

And also, the older card isn’t on that list.

I’ll assume you meant 1920×1080. Resolution is anything but irrelevant. An entry-level GPU will have a lot of trouble with anything past ~1280×1024. You can try to choose the subsampling scaling in the GW2 options.

As you can see in the link above, the 6670 (a GDDR3 card), gets an average of 19.2fps on the balanced preset at 1920×1080.

It is irrelevant because when using the EXACT SAME settings from a card that’s older and worse, the newer one should be preforming better.

Check it.

http://www.hwcompare.com/10872/radeon-hd-5550-vs-radeon-hd-6670-oem-1gb/

Also, I ran/run around 33fps with every maxed out except for shaders on medium and shadows off with native settings. Pretty much the same as my old card, with the exact same settings, resolution, OS and a clean system. The only difference was older GPU drivers and less windows updates on the old machine, oh, and being dual core rather than quad, and half the ram on the new, with everything up to date.

Is your 6670 card the version with GDDR3 or GDDR5?

I can’t remember, it was an impulse buy in the shop and it was that or some worse machine with the GT630 or whatever it is. I think it is but I’ve not installed the program I usually use to see everything yet, since I changed from AIDA32 I’ve forgotten what it was called. It isn’t 1gig though, it’s 2. the 5550 is also GDDR2 AFAIK and I “think” it was only 512mb.

Whatever the case, it’s a superior card to my last, which, is the whole point.

Izziee.8392:

Both windows 7.

and it is an i5 quad core-2320.

Windows 7 64bit? If so, upgrade the RAM to at least 4GB total (it’s cheap). Upgrade the video card :/ If we knew your power supply we’d know what you can buy, but also depends on your budget. The HD Radeon 7770 is a good starting point.

But to answer your original question the reason the 6670 didn’t help much is because of the RAM and the fact that the 6670 is nothing special. You might try a lower resolution for kicks.

What CPU your old rig had and what does your new rig have?

The 6670 is probably not “superior enough” to make any difference at the resolution you’re playing at.

If you knocked the resolution down a bit, it will make a difference, more than likely.

Aside from that, you’ve pretty much done a 75% sidegrade, 25% upgrade.

How many pci-e slots on your mobo? Im suspecting it may be installed on the wrong one if your board is sli/cfx capable you might wanna check it with cpu-z or gpu-z… What you are looking for is PCI-E link bandwidth and its supposed to be 16x not anything less.

muslumgurseks.4951:

How many pci-e slots on your mobo? Im suspecting it may be installed on the wrong one if your board is sli/cfx capable you might wanna check it with cpu-z or gpu-z… What you are looking for is PCI-E link bandwidth and its supposed to be 16x not anything less.

I don’t think that will make any difference in that range of cards to be honest.

ZaxanRazor.6235:

muslumgurseks.4951:

How many pci-e slots on your mobo? Im suspecting it may be installed on the wrong one if your board is sli/cfx capable you might wanna check it with cpu-z or gpu-z… What you are looking for is PCI-E link bandwidth and its supposed to be 16x not anything less.

I don’t think that will make any difference in that range of cards to be honest.

Well its still worth eliminating…

Yea, not at the risk of his warranty if it’s purchased from a high street store.

You dont need to open up your case to do so… All you gotta do is to download a program named GPU-Z and check the link bandwith… if by any chance its on the wrong one you get in touch with the place you bought it and have them do re-install it for you.

That very much depends on his motherboard and GPU though. Not everything works with GPU-Z or indeed reports correctly to it.