Guild Wars 2

Keeping it even more brief this time.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1FVFD

I already own that PSU and GPU in this current machine.

Two things I’m worried about, though.

- Would that mobo/cpu fit that heat sink in my case? I’m unsure of how to measure such things without yknow, actually owning the parts. If it doesn’t fit I can just use the stock heat sink though and get a refund / find a new part

- PSU, is 520w enough for all this?

- How would I handle WvWvW zergs?

Sorry, didn’t get around to post in your previous thread.

The problem you presented last night was to build a system that’s inexpensive. Now the DIY side is going to want to present a system that is potentially be upgraded, which means using current or near current CPUs, while still being affordable which means trading most current for a little more powerful but older for the same price. We’re pulling in multiple directions here.

Glad to see the reuse which eases budget concerns which means Haswell.

As for your questions.

- Yes that 520 watt Seasonic is more than enough.

- WvW zergs, who the heck knows. So few players are satisfied ever with WvW frame rate and quality settings. The GTX 650 is on the weak side but you have that already.

- Tough to answer with any certainty. The 212 Evo is only a 120mm fan based cooler and from base to top is 159mm tall. But that is a narrow case (with very little room for cables behind the MB tray BTW). It’ll be tight fit. That said Googling “212 Evo Rosewill Challenger” found me several posts that say it’ll fit.

Nitpick, you have listed the i5-4670 but not the 4670K that allows you to overclock. It’s sort of pointless in the short term to pair a non-overclocking CPU, especially something near the top with a Z87 MB. It’s $20 more for the K.

Behellagh.1468:

Sorry, didn’t get around to post in your previous thread.

The problem you presented last night was to build a system that’s inexpensive. Now the DIY side is going to want to present a system that is potentially be upgraded, which means using current or near current CPUs, while still being affordable which means trading most current for a little more powerful but older for the same price. We’re pulling in multiple directions here.

Glad to see the reuse which eases budget concerns which means Haswell.

As for your questions.

- Yes that 520 watt Seasonic is more than enough.

- WvW zergs, who the heck knows. So few players are satisfied ever with WvW frame rate and quality settings. The GTX 650 is on the weak side but you have that already.

- Tough to answer with any certainty. The 212 Evo is only a 120mm fan based cooler and from base to top is 159mm tall. But that is a narrow case (with very little room for cables behind the MB tray BTW). It’ll be tight fit. That said Googling “212 Evo Rosewill Challenger” found me several posts that say it’ll fit.

Nitpick, you have listed the i5-4670 but not the 4670K that allows you to overclock. It’s sort of pointless in the short term to pair a non-overclocking CPU, especially something near the top with a Z87 MB. It’s $20 more for the K.

Yeah reading a bit more I’m just going to get a 4670K , it’s still in the $700 price range I wanted and saves me money in the long run.

Thank you for the post, it eases me a bit. I know the GPU is on the low side but yes It’ll be the next thing I upgrade in the coming couple months. But other than the GPU does everything look okay? Your first paragraph kind of confused me which is why I’m asking for a bit more clarification.

I’d love to keep that case but it does look narrow, but hey, you said it should fit, though a bit tight, if I shouldn’t risk it.. what case would you suggest in a similar enough price range?

Sorry, I often post stream of consciousness and edit afterwords. Going back and reading it now I see it lacks a certain … clarity.

What I was trying to say is presenting a parts list for such a low budget is difficult, because on one hand you can either specify a lower end CPU like an i3 instead of an i5 with the i3 being the latest generation and match it with a Z87 motherboard that allows overclockable CPUs later, or go with an older i5 using Socket 1155 and go something cheaper like an H77 motherboard but the socket is a dead end. However any savings could be use on a better video card or a higher quality power supply.

But since you already have a high quality PSU as well as a GPU you are willing to reuse this make the job a little easier and you did a good job with it. And if you are still concern about the cooler/case fit issue, the Rosewill Galaxy case does provide more headroom for the same price or less depending on the model (there are three Galaxy cases, insides the same, sides the same, the three fans are the same-ish, only the plastic front on top are different, check them out on NewEgg).

Behellagh.1468:

Sorry, I often post stream of consciousness and edit afterwords. Going back and reading it now I see it lacks a certain … clarity.

What I was trying to say is presenting a parts list for such a low budget is difficult, because on one hand you can either specify a lower end CPU like an i3 instead of an i5 with the i3 being the latest generation and match it with a Z87 motherboard that allows overclockable CPUs later, or go with an older i5 using Socket 1155 and go something cheaper like an H77 motherboard but the socket is a dead end. However any savings could be use on a better video card or a higher quality power supply.

But since you already have a high quality PSU as well as a GPU you are willing to reuse this make the job a little easier and you did a good job with it. And if you are still concern about the cooler/case fit issue, the Rosewill Galaxy case does provide more headroom for the same price or less depending on the model (there are three Galaxy cases, insides the same, sides the same, the three fans are the same-ish, only the plastic front on top are different, check them out on NewEgg).

So it sounds like everything is good to go after all.

I think I’ll play it safe for the time being and go with the case I really wanted, if the heatsink doesn’t fit then well.. I can return it and get another, use the stock heatsink for awhile (it should be fine without overclocking) those roswells seem a bit.. iffy, I guess.

EDIT: On.. second thought I’ll maybe hunt for a new case, maybe just a tad more expensive to stay under $700, though I love the color blue, I’d imagine an LED would get annoying fast, at least for me. Back to the drawing board I suppose.

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The build you posted is pretty decent, once you opt for a 4670k. For cases, the NZXT Source 210 is pretty well recommended, and I would personally suggest that you look at the HAF 912- I love mine.

I can’t comment for you, but I do find LE. incredibly annoying after a very short amount of time- they’re really distracting. If you ready want them at some point in the future, thigh, you can always pick up another couple case fans w/ LEDs

Mm, I don’t care how the case looks too much at this point, I just want it big enough to fit that heat sink I want, would those two you mentioned be able to fit it? I’m always open for more input.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1G6aB

this is what I have so far minus the different tower, removing the tower should still leave me more than enough room under my budget to get a larger case, should I be looking for something labeled full tower or something? All mid towers I’m reading about seem to have size contraints..

A mid tower will be more then big enough. A full tower is absolutely massive and unnecessary unless you want a WC loop or something along those lines. What sort of size constraints are you reading about?

Fermi.2409:

A mid tower will be more then big enough. A full tower is absolutely massive and unnecessary unless you want a WC loop or something along those lines. What sort of size constraints are you reading about?

It’s just people in feedback on newegg say some things may be a tight fit.. which I mean, I guess isn’t a problem so long as it actually goes in but I’m positively worried I’d make a mistake and not be able to install that supposed goliath.

The Source 210 and HAF 912 will both have plenty of space- it even says on the 210’s page that it’s got 160mm of clearance for CPU coolers. Also, someone left some other recommendations in your Gamefaqs topic, all of which would be fine

Okay, this is what I’ve come up with and I think I’m going for it, I’m happy with how it all looks thus far.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1G9ZV

Thank you all so much for the help!

400R is a nice case. And for some reason I originally read you had only a GTX 650 and not a 650Ti which isn’t weak IMO.

Behellagh.1468:

400R is a nice case. And for some reason I originally read you had only a GTX 650 and not a 650Ti which isn’t weak IMO.

Also great to hear, and yeah I was confused with some negativity my card got when looking at videos it seems to handle BF3 on ultra for the most part.. and my monitor resolution is quite small for the time being so I’m sure things would run even better.

..and,last question I promise, what can I do about that cases ventilation stuff? I don’t plan on buying extra fans for awhile and those open ports (dust/cats are around where I am) could pose a problem, though if there’s not much I could do well.. cleaning it often isn’t that big of a deal since I see myself taking an air can to it every two weeks or so.

Okay actually.. this is actually the last question because I have two friends pushing me back and forth between that case above and..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107

My only gripe is that I know I’d have to remove the fan on the side to connect the heat sink which.. isn’t that big of a deal I’m sure it’d still be really cool inside and quiet (which was also a concern, I don’t want something too loud..) that and the LEDs seem distracting but, never owning one, I wouldn’t know, is it possible to turn them off easily for the blue lights compared to the other cases white ones?

Heroshi.8754:

Okay actually.. this is actually the last question because I have two friends pushing me back and forth between that case above and..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107

My only gripe is that I know I’d have to remove the fan on the side to connect the heat sink which.. isn’t that big of a deal I’m sure it’d still be really cool inside and quiet (which was also a concern, I don’t want something too loud..) that and the LEDs seem distracting but, never owning one, I wouldn’t know, is it possible to turn them off easily for the blue lights compared to the other cases white ones?

??? I don’t see why. While there’s a found mount behind the CPU area of the motherboard there isn’t a fan there. The side fan is located on the side with the window, the side you remove to install everything.

From what I read at Tom’s Hardware on that Rosewill Blackhawk, those LEDs on the front fans can’t be turned off. They don’t say anything about the top one. However the front fans in the Corsair 400R do have a toggle on the front panel to turn off the light.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dragon-rider-chaser-mk-i,2992-4.html

As for how annoy it may be, don’t know. Do you play in a dark room? All I have is a blue/orange power/standby LED that illuminates a 7" plastic bar that lights up a dark room like a nightlight when the monitor is on standby.

Best low noise case made. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352020
Really good case for that price range. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352031

Heroshi.8754:

Okay actually.. this is actually the last question because I have two friends pushing me back and forth between that case above and..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107

Just pick whichever you like the look of better.

zerk.9701:

Best low noise case made. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352020
Really good case for that price range. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352031

Another couple of really good choices.

All of these cases will do fine, just pick whichever you think will fit you the best.

I personally recommend the Corsair 550D. I love the sound-dampening material, rubber holes to dampen fan vibration, and tons of locations to mount fans. Quite roomy inside too.