Hi, after a retirement for like a year i decided to play guild wars 2 again. In the last year i upgraded my gpu from a geforce gts 250 to a geforce gtx 760, went from 4GB to 16GB of ram and also have a faster hdd installed.
Back in the old days performance was fine except for for example wvw(but i guess that’s normal) But when i started up gw2, hoping to have an even nicer experience then before, my fps didn’t get over 20-30 and went down to 10-15 when looking around. i checked my gpu stats and saw that everything was fine and not even using 50% EXCEPT for the gpu-load, which was constantly maxed out.
I really don’t understand this…..any advice? even on the lowest settings i have lag.
Game isn’t GPU bound meaning a noticeably better GPU past a certain point has very little impact on FPS. CPU is the bigger factor especially around any number of players.
Hi, after a retirement for like a year i decided to play guild wars 2 again. In the last year i upgraded my gpu from a geforce gts 250 to a geforce gtx 760, went from 4GB to 16GB of ram and also have a faster hdd installed.
Back in the old days performance was fine except for for example wvw(but i guess that’s normal) But when i started up gw2, hoping to have an even nicer experience then before, my fps didn’t get over 20-30 and went down to 10-15 when looking around. i checked my gpu stats and saw that everything was fine and not even using 50% EXCEPT for the gpu-load, which was constantly maxed out.
I really don’t understand this…..any advice? even on the lowest settings i have lag.
How about posting your CPU specs and what ingame settings you are using?
Hi, after a retirement for like a year i decided to play guild wars 2 again. In the last year i upgraded my gpu from a geforce gts 250 to a geforce gtx 760, went from 4GB to 16GB of ram and also have a faster hdd installed.
Back in the old days performance was fine except for for example wvw(but i guess that’s normal) But when i started up gw2, hoping to have an even nicer experience then before, my fps didn’t get over 20-30 and went down to 10-15 when looking around. i checked my gpu stats and saw that everything was fine and not even using 50% EXCEPT for the gpu-load, which was constantly maxed out.
I really don’t understand this…..any advice? even on the lowest settings i have lag.
How about posting your CPU specs and what ingame settings you are using?
My cpu is a quad core i5 3.33 Ghz, but i can pretty much say that is not the problem since it’s usage does not peak above 70% when playing the game. and i am using medium settings overall. my gpu-load is through the roof the entire time though.
If you are using an i5-660/661 then it’s a dual core with hyper threading and not the same thing as a true quad core. Plus it’s a fairly old Intel core design. The dual core Pentium G3258 is 10% faster overall (just to indicate what 3 generations wrought) while the the i3-4360 is 50% faster (same 2 cores/4 threads makeup).
If you are using an i5-660/661 then it’s a dual core with hyper threading and not the same thing as a true quad core. Plus it’s a fairly old Intel core design. The dual core Pentium G3258 is 10% faster overall (just to indicate what 3 generations wrought) while the the i3-4360 is 50% faster (same 2 cores/4 threads makeup).
The game really wants 3 or more real cores.
With all due respect, I just mentioned that the CPU-usage does not go over 70% and that one year ago I had no issues at all. So it would seem EXTREMELY strange to me if that would be the issue. Like I mentioned , my GPU usqge is through the roof with a gtx 760 and I can’t grasp it. Even on lowest settings my fops does not go over 48 or so and constantly drops when looking around(again obviously not CPU bound)
If you are using an i5-660/661 then it’s a dual core with hyper threading and not the same thing as a true quad core. Plus it’s a fairly old Intel core design. The dual core Pentium G3258 is 10% faster overall (just to indicate what 3 generations wrought) while the the i3-4360 is 50% faster (same 2 cores/4 threads makeup).
The game really wants 3 or more real cores.
With all due respect, I just mentioned that the CPU-usage does not go over 70% and that one year ago I had no issues at all. So it would seem EXTREMELY strange to me if that would be the issue. Like I mentioned , my GPU usqge is through the roof with a gtx 760 and I can’t grasp it. Even on lowest settings my fops does not go over 48 or so and constantly drops when looking around(again obviously not CPU bound)
You have yet to tell us WHAT CPU YOU HAVE. Nor what ingame settings you are using.
If you are using an i5-660/661 then it’s a dual core with hyper threading and not the same thing as a true quad core. Plus it’s a fairly old Intel core design. The dual core Pentium G3258 is 10% faster overall (just to indicate what 3 generations wrought) while the the i3-4360 is 50% faster (same 2 cores/4 threads makeup).
The game really wants 3 or more real cores.
With all due respect, I just mentioned that the CPU-usage does not go over 70% and that one year ago I had no issues at all. So it would seem EXTREMELY strange to me if that would be the issue. Like I mentioned , my GPU usqge is through the roof with a gtx 760 and I can’t grasp it. Even on lowest settings my fops does not go over 48 or so and constantly drops when looking around(again obviously not CPU bound)
Go press F11 and Graphics Options Tab.
See something new since you played a year ago? That’s right, there are settings to adjust culling now, Character Model Limit/Quality now.
You can adjust those settings to match your performance from a year ago.
If that’s not the case then there was recently some problems with the High-Res character textures setting so that could also be a possibility.
If you are using an i5-660/661 then it’s a dual core with hyper threading and not the same thing as a true quad core. Plus it’s a fairly old Intel core design. The dual core Pentium G3258 is 10% faster overall (just to indicate what 3 generations wrought) while the the i3-4360 is 50% faster (same 2 cores/4 threads makeup).
The game really wants 3 or more real cores.
With all due respect, I just mentioned that the CPU-usage does not go over 70% and that one year ago I had no issues at all. So it would seem EXTREMELY strange to me if that would be the issue. Like I mentioned , my GPU usqge is through the roof with a gtx 760 and I can’t grasp it. Even on lowest settings my fops does not go over 48 or so and constantly drops when looking around(again obviously not CPU bound)
You have yet to tell us WHAT CPU YOU HAVE. Nor what ingame settings you are using.
and yes, IT MATTERS.
It does not, if i didn’t have ANY cpu-issues a year ago i wouldn’t have them now, especially if none of my 4 cores(hyperthreading or not) go above 70%, end of the line.
I already mentioned my cpu specs and what ingame settings i am using, also even on the lowest setting i receive immense fps drops which clearly is NOT cpu-based, i am talking about GPU problems. if my cpu while not being overloaded has anything to do with it then at least mention WHY, thx.
And for the other reply: thx for mentioning that but i already tuned every setting down to the minimum and it barely improves performance(from 20-30 to 40-50 fps with bad frame drops still happening when looking around), i really don’t get this.
You said your CPU is a quad core i5, but you never gave the exact model number of the CPU. so no, you did not supply that yet. (Large gap of performance from a Gen1 i5 to a gen3/4 i5)
You did not show any details on what ingame settings you are currently using.
Over a year ago GW2’s Dev enabled a setting group they call ‘culling’ to the game. These 2 settings are Character quality and Character Limit in your ingame settings. Putting these to Max settings will cripple really any system, depending on the number of players in the area.
High-res character textures are currently causing issues with some systems too.
Reflections set higher then sky/terrain have ALWAYS caused issues, as reflections are also rendered below the ground (there is a GIANT ocean under each zone)
And I currently think Shadows are bugged above medium. As I am losing 20FPS on my 280x/4790k when I set this setting above medium.
You said your CPU is a quad core i5, but you never gave the exact model number of the CPU. so no, you did not supply that yet. (Large gap of performance from a Gen1 i5 to a gen3/4 i5)
You did not show any details on what ingame settings you are currently using.
Over a year ago GW2’s Dev enabled a setting group they call ‘culling’ to the game. These 2 settings are Character quality and Character Limit in your ingame settings. Putting these to Max settings will cripple really any system, depending on the number of players in the area.
High-res character textures are currently causing issues with some systems too.
Reflections set higher then sky/terrain have ALWAYS caused issues, as reflections are also rendered below the ground (there is a GIANT ocean under each zone)
And I currently think Shadows are bugged above medium. As I am losing 20FPS on my 280x/4790k when I set this setting above medium.
So, again, supply your ingame settings.
Look, i said it twice already so i will say it again: i have the exact same cpu as before and the usage does not go over 70% on ANY core. i may not be an expert but if none of your cpu features is being overloaded i very much doubt that it has anything to do with the problem i have.
My settings are as i stated two times before LOWEST, every single option is put to the lowest setting or off if possible. Yet my GPU still is being overloaded and i get between 10-30 fps, it also spikes when looking around, again GPU and NOT CPU.
I don’t want to start an argument here but i am fairly sure my cpu has nothing to do with this, so can you please adress the problems i’m having from another direction? not every single performance issue is because of the processor. and yes it’s fairly old (4 years now) but it stil lfunctions perfectly well and also did in the past on gw2 when i had 60 fps and no problems at all, the changes to the settings do not apply since i have eveyrhting turned down and STILL have this problem while cpu usage is well below anything that could cause problems that way.
but if you really want to know, it’s an i5-661 and i will add a picture of my settings.
Hi, after a retirement for like a year i decided to play guild wars 2 again. In the last year i upgraded my gpu from a geforce gts 250 to a geforce gtx 760, went from 4GB to 16GB of ram and also have a faster hdd installed.
Back in the old days performance was fine except for for example wvw(but i guess that’s normal) But when i started up gw2, hoping to have an even nicer experience then before, my fps didn’t get over 20-30 and went down to 10-15 when looking around. i checked my gpu stats and saw that everything was fine and not even using 50% EXCEPT for the gpu-load, which was constantly maxed out.
I really don’t understand this…..any advice? even on the lowest settings i have lag.
Well I can assure you, it’s not your CPU. You are not the only one having performance issues.
It’s ANet problem
And there is a whole thread regarding the DROP of FPS
Download GPU-Z and verify your PCIE link speeds while GW2 is running (windowed mode or Windowed-fullscreen).
Its possible your GPU is running at 1x instead of 16x or 8×.
When i am looking at the bus interface it sais that it supports 16x and that io am running 1x in the game.
You are right, what can i do to change this? Does it have anyhting to do with the fact that i changed my gpu to the second pci-e slot due to it being to big to fit in the one i used before?
That info said that is a Dual-Core CPU, no Quad Core.. maybe that’s the problem.. just saying.
i found that out, the fact it appears to have four is due to hyperthreading and the problem is not the cpu. pls read through the whole page before commenting. thx.
again , the gpu indeed only runs at 1x, how can i up it back to 16? since my motherboard configuration sais it hsould support it.
Try re-seating the card a couple of times. Sometimes the connections get tarnished and don’t make solid contact.
yeah, i have reseated it 3 times now and no result.
Its probably the LSPM settings on the PCIE slot. Sometimes GW2 doesnt kick the GPU out of power saving mode. You can use MSI Afterburner to disable the sleep states, and adjust the LSPM in windows power power management to disable PCIE sleeping.
Alternatively you can use the high performance power profile too.
Do you have any other PCIE cards in your system other then the GPU?
There are motherboards with 2 or 2 slots for gpu cards, for sli or crossfire. But with some of these motherboards, if you use only 1 gpu card, you must place it into one specific slot. Look into the documentation of your mainboard. Perhaps you placed your gpu into a slot where in a 2-gpu setup the second card goes. In this case, put your card into the other slot.
1st of all it’s normally the x16 slot physically closest to the CPU. But that’s probably not it. The OP, while overly protective of his system’s stats, seems competent enough to install a new video card, connect the external power connector and do a proper flush of the old driver and installing the current WGHL driver for that card.
Now he’s also not chosen to share the OS he is using. Perhaps that may be an issue with a modern video card. We are talking about going from a GTS 250/9800 GTX to a GTX 760. That’s quite the leap in computer years.
Thank you all for the replies, and the OS will not be a problem, i’m using windows 7 home premium 64 bit. and yes the change may be big, but i checked everything throughly: all the cables are properly connected, i have a sufficient psu….the ONLY thing i changed was the slot in which i put the GPU……..which may have been a mistake, i have no idea if this slot is used for a second graphics cars or not, i may have had this problem for a while but didn’t notice it until now.
Now like i mentioned, while doing render tests and monitoring in gpu-z i can see the bus speed box blinking like it WANTS to change, but i just stays at 1×.
this is my motherboard http://www.msi.com/product/mb/P55MGD41.html#hero-specification it uses the x16 slot furthest away from the cpu. cause the casing for my 2 hard drives is in the way….now i could cut a piece of it away to make room but that seems like overkill.
I was concerned that perhaps you were using Vista.
And yes, the 2nd PCIe x16 slot, counting out from the CPU, is electrically an x4 slot. The video card really should be in first slot.
You should check what version BIOS you have. I notice in the BIOS section of the downloads that V 1.9 lists “improved VGA compatability” and the latest version of the BIOS is 1.A.
If you look into the manual of your mainboard, then you find this on page 2-21:
If you intend to install only ONE graphics card, make sure that the graphics card is
Installed on the first PCIE x16 (PCI_E1) slot.
So it is really required to put the graphics card into the slot that is nearest to the CPU, which is labeled PCI_E1 on the board surface. You cannot put it into the other slot. If there is no room, you have to make room or get a new case.
If you look into the manual of your mainboard, then you find this on page 2-21:
If you intend to install only ONE graphics card, make sure that the graphics card is
Installed on the first PCIE x16 (PCI_E1) slot.
So it is really required to put the graphics card into the slot that is nearest to the CPU, which is labeled PCI_E1 on the board surface. You cannot put it into the other slot. If there is no room, you have to make room or get a new case.
well it seems i hafd this issue from the start when i installed the gtx 760………fml, now i haveto go and make room by cutting in the case or getting a new one which is gonna be a pain since i bought this pc pre-build years ago and the ape that build it probabably never imagined someone opening it…..everything is screwed up inside.
After ripping out the hard drive holder of the case….. cutting it down with a metal saw for 2 hours and almost putting a blade though my hands i was able to scream:
I
AM
GOD
I MADE SOMETHING AND IT WORKS. <—( happiest person alive)
Thank you all so much for the support to find the issue and fix it, it’s happily running at x16 v1.1 and performance is so much better, it’s like seeing HD for the first time xD
