Guild Wars 2

Hello everyone,

This post is not to complain about FPS but to show you the differences I experienced when I changed my system. This is not something people should have to do for the sake of a game but I was fortunate to be upgrading my PC anyway and thus here are my results. I hope this is helpful to someone out there.

So let me start by showing you my original system spec.

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
System Model: P5Q-PRO
Processor: Intel Quad Core Q6600
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE

The above spec saw me average only 20-21fps constantly. Changing the graphics settings did nothing as many people on here already know. In WvW it was naturally a lot lower and became a slideshow even if you turned the graphics settings right down.
I persisted with that for a long time but like I said I was in the process of changing and so here is my new system spec, I would like you to note that I didn’t change my Graphics Card nor did I use any ViruMVP (which my board can use) systems during play.

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
System Model: Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77
Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz
Memory: 8000MB RAM
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE

With my new system build I am seeing a constant 72-75fps at maxed out graphics settings. I’m sure you will agree that is a considerable difference in terms of performance. Even standing in Lions Arch with a lot of people never saw the fps drop below 68fps.

With that in mind I have to say….bloomin heck was a beautiful game.

So I hope this helps someone, anyone or even just serves as information to ANet for reference.

Added details to https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Post-your-FPS-System-spec-here/first#post668438

I am surprised at your Lion’s arch fps, if on 1080p at max rez. I can’t manage 60fps in the worst parts of Lion’s arch.

I run an overclocked i7 Ivy at 4.6 Ghz with two GTX 670s.

Curious what resolution you run at?

Your surprised? Imagine my reaction to this. I was totally shocked.
1680×1050 is my res mate.

Nice.. glad the upgrade gave you what you wanted.
Only thing i will add is that you might want to OC your CPU if you have a good aftermarket cooler. bassicaly you got a K series chip ..they are designed to be OC’d ..not OC’ing is a bit of waste since you coulda got a non K series for less money otherwise.
As for fps.. it is totaly possible to get 60 fps in lions arch ..it depends on where you look and how busy lions arch is ofcourse ..but tis possible as OP has shown
I persoanly get 30-60 fps depending on where i am and how busy it is in lion arch with max settings (inlcuding shadows and reflections) on native sampling at 1920×1080 res. The lion statue for example, i can get 50 fps there depending on which direction im looking .there is one direction that for no obviose reason drops fps considerably. If i turn reflections to terrain and sky my fps hits 60 anywhere in LA ..even mystic forge..but i prefer to have reflecitons on max. My gpu ether way is running between 80-99% so im bottlenecked by GPU atm, hence why i aint getting 60 fps all the time with terrian and sky on max.
Its probably a good thing your running at 1680×1050 becouse i doubt a 460 could handle max setitngs at 1080p without droping in fps tbh.

How the heck are you getting 70fps in LA? I had a 460 which is better than the 460 SE and it was horrible. I’m now on a 670 and at maxed with my i5 at 3.8GHz at the forge I don’t break 60 most times.

Remember he is running a lower resolution ..meaning his gpu can handle the higher settings.

So basicaly , I have to spent next money on mobo and cpu in order to play game , which should be running well already ?
I have Phenom II x4 965 BE and running 20-40 FPS ( jumping like crazy , screen tearing etc …) and people who have same (or worse ) CPU and even much worse GPU can run it 40+ fps without drops , tearing alnd all thos kitten ….

Sounds like the difference is the rez, I run at 1080.

Pozmol ..you rigs problem is the CPU ..its AMD.
Your playing a cpu intensive game. AMD isnt really the choice for gaming tbh, becouse atm gaming is not optimized to use all threads. Even their best gaming CPU is no match for Intel’s gaming CPU’s. Its kinda like buying a GTX 630 over a GTX 670, the 630 is a media gpu the 670 is a gaming gpu.
AMD is media basicaly and Intel is gaming. You get what you pay for unfortunatly.
I got nothing against AMD i used to use them back in the day ..their cpu’s are fine ..for multithread optimised applications like encoding and such ..but for gaming Intel is the clear choice.

If a person cant afford a Intel setup (as is the main reason people use AMD) then they have to be prepaired to get what they pay for bassicaly…every now and then AMD may come out with somthing that is actually really good for the money ..like their current generation GPU’s ..but on average ..they are the ‘cheap’ option for a reason.

Please dont take this as fanboy talk or being bias ..its just fact.

SolarNova.1052:

Pozmol ..you rigs problem is the CPU ..its AMD.
Your playing a cpu intensive game. AMD isnt really the choice for gaming tbh, becouse atm gaming is not optimized to use all threads. Even their best gaming CPU is no match for Intel’s gaming CPU’s. Its kinda like buying a GTX 630 over a GTX 670, the 630 is a media gpu the 670 is a gaming gpu.
AMD is media basicaly and Intel is gaming. You get what you pay for unfortunatly.
I got nothing against AMD i used to use them back in the day ..their cpu’s are fine ..for multithread optimised applications like encoding and such ..but for gaming Intel is the clear choice.

If a person cant afford a Intel setup (as is the main reason people use AMD) then they have to be prepaired to get what they pay for bassicaly…every now and then AMD may come out with somthing that is actually really good for the money ..like their current generation GPU’s ..but on average ..they are the ‘cheap’ option for a reason.

Please dont take this as fanboy talk or being bias ..its just fact.

Hmn, that’s funny. Cause I’m running a Phenom 1100t (no OC and stock cooler) and getting average 70-80 FPS (with spikes up to 100+) in most areas with it not dropping below 40 FPS in the worse areas (like LA). But I’m sure that’s not because of my AMD CPU.

BTW, I see just as many FPS issues threads with people running Intel CPUs.

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

Necroshen.3698:

Hello everyone,

This post is not to complain about FPS but to show you the differences I experienced when I changed my system. This is not something people should have to do for the sake of a game but I was fortunate to be upgrading my PC anyway and thus here are my results. I hope this is helpful to someone out there.

So let me start by showing you my original system spec.

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
System Model: P5Q-PRO
Processor: Intel Quad Core Q6600
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE

The above spec saw me average only 20-21fps constantly. Changing the graphics settings did nothing as many people on here already know. In WvW it was naturally a lot lower and became a slideshow even if you turned the graphics settings right down.
I persisted with that for a long time but like I said I was in the process of changing and so here is my new system spec, I would like you to note that I didn’t change my Graphics Card nor did I use any ViruMVP (which my board can use) systems during play.

Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
System Model: Gigabyte Z77X-D3H Intel Z77
Processor: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz
Memory: 8000MB RAM
Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 SE

With my new system build I am seeing a constant 72-75fps at maxed out graphics settings. I’m sure you will agree that is a considerable difference in terms of performance. Even standing in Lions Arch with a lot of people never saw the fps drop below 68fps.

With that in mind I have to say….bloomin heck was a beautiful game.

So I hope this helps someone, anyone or even just serves as information to ANet for reference.

I would like to see a pic of this as I think not.

Necroshen.3698:

Your surprised? Imagine my reaction to this. I was totally shocked.
1680×1050 is my res mate.

Like I said post a pic or it’s all a lie.

Rabbiddog.7690:

SolarNova.1052:

Pozmol ..you rigs problem is the CPU ..its AMD.
Your playing a cpu intensive game. AMD isnt really the choice for gaming tbh, becouse atm gaming is not optimized to use all threads. Even their best gaming CPU is no match for Intel’s gaming CPU’s. Its kinda like buying a GTX 630 over a GTX 670, the 630 is a media gpu the 670 is a gaming gpu.
AMD is media basicaly and Intel is gaming. You get what you pay for unfortunatly.
I got nothing against AMD i used to use them back in the day ..their cpu’s are fine ..for multithread optimised applications like encoding and such ..but for gaming Intel is the clear choice.

If a person cant afford a Intel setup (as is the main reason people use AMD) then they have to be prepaired to get what they pay for bassicaly…every now and then AMD may come out with somthing that is actually really good for the money ..like their current generation GPU’s ..but on average ..they are the ‘cheap’ option for a reason.

Please dont take this as fanboy talk or being bias ..its just fact.

Hmn, that’s funny. Cause I’m running a Phenom 1100t (no OC and stock cooler) and getting average 70-80 FPS (with spikes up to 100+) in most areas with it not dropping below 40 FPS in the worse areas (like LA). But I’m sure that’s not because of my AMD CPU.

BTW, I see just as many FPS issues threads with people running Intel CPUs.

Well thats not really a fair comparison. The 1100t was the best (and probably is still the best) amd cpu out there. Just because you get good fps with an 1100t doesn’t mean the other amd cpus should get the same frame rate.

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

I’m using a Zalman CNPS10X Performa with 2 120mm Areocool Shark blue LED fans max I have seen my CPU is about 46c at load in Sony Vegas (video editing) its about $55 USD at newegg.com and the fan it comes with is actually a Very nice fan, that I actually have ziptied to my Gigabyte HD4890OC which came stock with another Zalman cooler lols and it actually stays as cool as my CPU unless at Full load which then it might hit 55-57c but never anything higher lols.

This is actually my channel showing the CPU cooler in my case just to show you what I am using and how it is in the case.

Some settings you might want to look into are.

CPU/NB Voltage: v1.2 is what I use atm
CPU Vcore: v1.3875 is what I’m set to at 3.9GHz, anything under v1.45 is good, but note that passed v1.4 and you start to get lots of heat due to increased voltage. Also some motherboards will actually add some voltage ontop of your setting to compensate Vdroop (Drop in Vcore voltage) Also note that a Vcore pass v1.48 with a X4 Phenom and your want to consider getting water cooling but I don’t advise going passed v1.45 if possible, unless you want to fork out the dow on a Corsair H100 which are actually nice when setup right :P.
Ram timings I use are 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1600MHz @ v1.5, I’m using 2 different sets of G.Skill otherwise I’d be 7-8-7-24-2T :/ my sister figured she’d suprise me with something PC related 1 christmas LOL.
NorthBridge Freq, or NB is 2.4GHz, usually this is a good medium to be at and since my ram is different sets I don’t mess with it lols.
HT Link is at 2GHz usually will want to leave this alone at 2GHz.

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

Im using a Coolermaster Hyper EVO on my 1090t@4ghz i have never seen it past 40c neither during a prime test, or playing BF3, playing GW2 it hardly gets to 34c. Ambient temp between 18-34c. It is pretty good cooler for 30bucks, it is better than my h80 watercooling system i got on my i7 setup. It was fun cuz i had the h80 hooked on the AMD board to begin with and i bought this little Coolermaster when i started overclocking the 2600k and i put the H80 on the intel, now after some testing i realized the phenom is coolest than ever i mean 40c during prime@4ghz is ridiculous, and actually the i7 watercooled gets kinda hot 75c@4.6ghz while rendering, i feel like i should switch them arround but im just lazy.

Swordbreaker.2581:

Rabbiddog.7690:

SolarNova.1052:

Pozmol ..you rigs problem is the CPU ..its AMD.
Your playing a cpu intensive game. AMD isnt really the choice for gaming tbh, becouse atm gaming is not optimized to use all threads. Even their best gaming CPU is no match for Intel’s gaming CPU’s. Its kinda like buying a GTX 630 over a GTX 670, the 630 is a media gpu the 670 is a gaming gpu.
AMD is media basicaly and Intel is gaming. You get what you pay for unfortunatly.
I got nothing against AMD i used to use them back in the day ..their cpu’s are fine ..for multithread optimised applications like encoding and such ..but for gaming Intel is the clear choice.

If a person cant afford a Intel setup (as is the main reason people use AMD) then they have to be prepaired to get what they pay for bassicaly…every now and then AMD may come out with somthing that is actually really good for the money ..like their current generation GPU’s ..but on average ..they are the ‘cheap’ option for a reason.

Please dont take this as fanboy talk or being bias ..its just fact.

Hmn, that’s funny. Cause I’m running a Phenom 1100t (no OC and stock cooler) and getting average 70-80 FPS (with spikes up to 100+) in most areas with it not dropping below 40 FPS in the worse areas (like LA). But I’m sure that’s not because of my AMD CPU.

BTW, I see just as many FPS issues threads with people running Intel CPUs.

Well thats not really a fair comparison. The 1100t was the best (and probably is still the best) amd cpu out there. Just because you get good fps with an 1100t doesn’t mean the other amd cpus should get the same frame rate.

That wasn’t the comparison or point of my reply. Re-read SolarNova’s comment and then that should put my reply to him in better context for you.

Rampage.7145:

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

Im using a Coolermaster Hyper EVO on my 1090t@4ghz i have never seen it past 40c neither during a prime test, or playing BF3, playing GW2 it hardly gets to 34c. Ambient temp between 18-34c. It is pretty good cooler for 30bucks, it is better than my h80 watercooling system i got on my i7 setup. It was fun cuz i had the h80 hooked on the AMD board to begin with and i bought this little Coolermaster when i started overclocking the 2600k and i put the H80 on the intel, now after some testing i realized the phenom is coolest than ever i mean 40c during prime@4ghz is ridiculous, and actually the i7 watercooled gets kinda hot 75c@4.6ghz while rendering, i feel like i should switch them arround but im just lazy.

That’s some pretty good cooling. For $30 I might just give that a try. Was looking at liquid coolers, but decent ones start at $60 and above, well above if you want to get a good one.

Alteris.1528:

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

I’m using a Zalman CNPS10X Performa with 2 120mm Areocool Shark blue LED fans max I have seen my CPU is about 46c at load in Sony Vegas (video editing) its about $55 USD at newegg.com and the fan it comes with is actually a Very nice fan, that I actually have ziptied to my Gigabyte HD4890OC which came stock with another Zalman cooler lols and it actually stays as cool as my CPU unless at Full load which then it might hit 55-57c but never anything higher lols.

This is actually my channel showing the CPU cooler in my case just to show you what I am using and how it is in the case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4da74yaRYY

Some settings you might want to look into are.

CPU/NB Voltage: v1.2 is what I use atm
CPU Vcore: v1.3875 is what I’m set to at 3.9GHz, anything under v1.45 is good, but note that passed v1.4 and you start to get lots of heat due to increased voltage. Also some motherboards will actually add some voltage ontop of your setting to compensate Vdroop (Drop in Vcore voltage) Also note that a Vcore pass v1.48 with a X4 Phenom and your want to consider getting water cooling but I don’t advise going passed v1.45 if possible, unless you want to fork ou the dow on a Corsair H100 which are actually nice when setup right :P.
Ram timings I use are 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1600MHz @ v1.5, I’m using 2 different sets of G.Skill otherwise I’d be 7-8-7-24-2T :/ my sister figured she’d suprise me with something PC related 1 christmas LOL.
NorthBridge Freq, or NB is 2.4GHz, usually this is a good medium to be at and since my ram is different sets I don’t mess with it lols.
HT Link is at 2GHz usually will want to leave this alone at 2GHz.

Nice, thanks for the info. What are you using to OC your processor? I actually downloaded AMD Overdrive and it seems like a very nice utility to OC the Phenom series, seems fairly granular.

Rabbiddog.7690:

Swordbreaker.2581:

Rabbiddog.7690:

SolarNova.1052:

Pozmol ..you rigs problem is the CPU ..its AMD.
Your playing a cpu intensive game. AMD isnt really the choice for gaming tbh, becouse atm gaming is not optimized to use all threads. Even their best gaming CPU is no match for Intel’s gaming CPU’s. Its kinda like buying a GTX 630 over a GTX 670, the 630 is a media gpu the 670 is a gaming gpu.
AMD is media basicaly and Intel is gaming. You get what you pay for unfortunatly.
I got nothing against AMD i used to use them back in the day ..their cpu’s are fine ..for multithread optimised applications like encoding and such ..but for gaming Intel is the clear choice.

If a person cant afford a Intel setup (as is the main reason people use AMD) then they have to be prepaired to get what they pay for bassicaly…every now and then AMD may come out with somthing that is actually really good for the money ..like their current generation GPU’s ..but on average ..they are the ‘cheap’ option for a reason.

Please dont take this as fanboy talk or being bias ..its just fact.

Hmn, that’s funny. Cause I’m running a Phenom 1100t (no OC and stock cooler) and getting average 70-80 FPS (with spikes up to 100+) in most areas with it not dropping below 40 FPS in the worse areas (like LA). But I’m sure that’s not because of my AMD CPU.

BTW, I see just as many FPS issues threads with people running Intel CPUs.

Well thats not really a fair comparison. The 1100t was the best (and probably is still the best) amd cpu out there. Just because you get good fps with an 1100t doesn’t mean the other amd cpus should get the same frame rate.

That wasn’t the comparison or point of my reply. Re-read SolarNova’s comment and then that should put my reply to him in better context for you.

I did re-read SolarNova’s comment and for the most part he is right. Just because you have an amd cpu doesn’t mean you are going to get bad fps, but a lot of the amd cpus do suck compared to i5’s. The 1100t is an exception to the rule ,and I wouldn’t brag about 40-50 fps in pve (which alteris did and made the point that amd cpus don’t suck because he was able to get 40-50 fps) :/ 70-80 fps is great. If you have a setup that works for you, then good for you. I wouldn’t make a blanketed statement that simply isn’t true though that just because you have a amd cpu and have good fps that amd cpus normally aren’t crap because they are, in comparison to modern sandybridge/ivybridge intel cpus. The people with intel cpus that are getting bad fps are the generation of cpus before sandybridge, and core 2 duos, OR they have decent cpu’s with something like the nvidia 680 and 690, which to be honest, don’t perform as well as amd GPU’s for some reason in GW2 (when they should do just as well if not perform better than amd gpus.

You’re quite smug about the fact that you have an amd cpu and you get good fps. I would be willing to bet that you either don’t have everything turned on high, or you have cards in sli/crossfire. It’s not a conspiracy theory that amd cpus suck compared to intel cpus. All you need to do is look up the tom’s hardware article that plainly shows amd cpus getting their kittens kicked by intel cpus.

Swordbreaker.2581:

Rabbiddog.7690:

Swordbreaker.2581:

Rabbiddog.7690:

SolarNova.1052:

Pozmol ..you rigs problem is the CPU ..its AMD.
Your playing a cpu intensive game. AMD isnt really the choice for gaming tbh, becouse atm gaming is not optimized to use all threads. Even their best gaming CPU is no match for Intel’s gaming CPU’s. Its kinda like buying a GTX 630 over a GTX 670, the 630 is a media gpu the 670 is a gaming gpu.
AMD is media basicaly and Intel is gaming. You get what you pay for unfortunatly.
I got nothing against AMD i used to use them back in the day ..their cpu’s are fine ..for multithread optimised applications like encoding and such ..but for gaming Intel is the clear choice.

If a person cant afford a Intel setup (as is the main reason people use AMD) then they have to be prepaired to get what they pay for bassicaly…every now and then AMD may come out with somthing that is actually really good for the money ..like their current generation GPU’s ..but on average ..they are the ‘cheap’ option for a reason.

Please dont take this as fanboy talk or being bias ..its just fact.

Hmn, that’s funny. Cause I’m running a Phenom 1100t (no OC and stock cooler) and getting average 70-80 FPS (with spikes up to 100+) in most areas with it not dropping below 40 FPS in the worse areas (like LA). But I’m sure that’s not because of my AMD CPU.

BTW, I see just as many FPS issues threads with people running Intel CPUs.

Well thats not really a fair comparison. The 1100t was the best (and probably is still the best) amd cpu out there. Just because you get good fps with an 1100t doesn’t mean the other amd cpus should get the same frame rate.

That wasn’t the comparison or point of my reply. Re-read SolarNova’s comment and then that should put my reply to him in better context for you.

I did re-read SolarNova’s comment and for the most part he is right. Just because you have an amd cpu doesn’t mean you are going to get bad fps, but a lot of the amd cpus do suck compared to i5’s. The 1100t is an exception to the rule ,and I wouldn’t brag about 40-50 fps in pve (which alteris did and made the point that amd cpus don’t suck because he was able to get 40-50 fps) :/ 70-80 fps is great. If you have a setup that works for you, then good for you. I wouldn’t make a blanketed statement that simply isn’t true though that just because you have a amd cpu and have good fps that amd cpus normally aren’t crap because they are, in comparison to modern sandybridge/ivybridge intel cpus. The people with intel cpus that are getting bad fps are the generation of cpus before sandybridge, and core 2 duos, OR they have decent cpu’s with something like the nvidia 680 and 690, which to be honest, don’t perform as well as amd GPU’s for some reason in GW2 (when they should do just as well if not perform better than amd gpus.

You’re quite smug about the fact that you have an amd cpu and you get good fps. I would be willing to bet that you either don’t have everything turned on high, or you have cards in sli/crossfire. It’s not a conspiracy theory that amd cpus suck compared to intel cpus. All you need to do is look up the tom’s hardware article that plainly shows amd cpus getting their kittens kicked by intel cpus.

LOL! Hmn, ok. If you say so.

rolls eyes

Moving on…

EDIT: You know what, I wasn’t going to comment further but I am. I find it funny how just as many people with newer intels (yes, look through the forums and you will find plenty of posts with people with i3/i5/i7 processors having FPS issues) posting on these forums with FPS issues. The standard reply is “OC It”. Yet someone with an AMD processor posts the same issue and the standard reply is “AMD sucks”. This also applies to GPUs. Yet, when someone , such as me, post a reply to the conrtrary, I’m an ecxeption to the rule, a fluke of nature. Yet that doesn’t seem to be the case for Intels.

Quite smug? No more so than you or the others posting on here about their Intels. How does me posting info that is contradictory to another persons being smug? Again, no more so than you or anyone else on these forums. So my clearly inferior AMD processor, with NO OC and stock fan gets pretty kitten close performance as you or others with heavily OC’d Intel processors (everything on max with the exception of shaders on medium). Again, NO OC.

Sooo, if I OC, I’m pretty sure I’’l be able to run everything max and still get the same performance. But of course, I’m the exception to the rule.

And BTW, single GPU (HD 7970). But I’m sure you or others will find other excus…er reasons why my AMD system gets good performance despite the CPU. In any case, I ABSOLUTELY don’t care whether you believe anything I say or not because it simply does not matter to me.

Now I think I’m done with this topic.

Here’s my gaming rig! I think I built it back in 2008, initially running WinXP. It was really kittening awesome back then, and it’s been chugging away faithfully ever since.

Operating System: Windows 7, 64-bit, Special (See Below)
Processor: AMD 6400+ (3.2 GHz Dual Core, not OC’d currently)
Memory: 4096MB RAM
Graphics Card: NVIDIA 9800 GT

I routinely get smooth gameplay and high (50-60) framerates everywhere in the world. Only in WvW Zergwars, does the FPS drop. Medium sized zerg vs zerg can still be easily played at around 30-40 FPS. Applications, and even other games that list my system spec’s as the minimum, all fly, even when things get busy on-screen.

So why can I pull that off with an old kitten rig? Crazy levels of System Optimization!

1. Check your drivers, especially graphics! UPDATE!

2. Open your system up and clean it! Canned Air!

3. Extra Cooling! I have several different cooling systems in my case designed to keep air flowing.
-2 medium fans devoted to the 4 hard drives
-A powerful high RPM fan providing intense additional airflow across the graphics card
-CPU fan was upgraded greatly
-Several neon-light case fans at strategic locations to enhance airflow. Also to look pretty.

4. Network optimization! Most Windows installs will sit on network data packets till it accumulates several, and then send them all at once. Great if you want to cut down on network chatter. Bad if you want to dodge that split-second attack.

5. Faildows! My install of Windows 7 has been specially tweaked, and stripped down to be a barebones gaming OS. After the usual BIOS stuff, it takes only a few seconds to reach a desktop. For kicks, I made a small script that can turn this “barebones” configuration off and run Win7 normally if I ever needed to for some reason. Doing so greatly hurts my FPS.

Moral of the story? Having great hardware doesn’t help if all of it’s power is being sapped or wasted by bad drivers, overheating-throttling, or a bloated OS!

Congrats Rabbid. Your amd cpu is amazing.

Swordbreaker.2581:

Congrats Rabbid. Your amd cpu is amazing.

Right back atcha….

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

I’m running a X4 955BE at 3.9GHz with 8GB of DDR3 1600MHz with an HD4890 1GB at 1680×1050 with nearly everything maxed minus shadows which are medium, and FXAA and Depth blur. I mostly see 45-50+ FPS less in big fights or places like LA then I see 40ish FPS, saying that …its AMD isn’t the case there are even ppl with high end Intel CPU’s with very high OCs 4.5GHz+ and GPUs that put mine to literal shame that are getting crippled when running GW2.

And to Pozmol, what is your GPU ? and is your X4 965BE OCed at all ?

Alteris, what kinda CPU cooling are you running? Looking to start OCing mine but need to get a decent cooler first. Got mine OC’d up to 3.8GHz (in testing) on stock cooler but then it started wigging out due to increased heat.

I’m using a Zalman CNPS10X Performa with 2 120mm Areocool Shark blue LED fans max I have seen my CPU is about 46c at load in Sony Vegas (video editing) its about $55 USD at newegg.com and the fan it comes with is actually a Very nice fan, that I actually have ziptied to my Gigabyte HD4890OC which came stock with another Zalman cooler lols and it actually stays as cool as my CPU unless at Full load which then it might hit 55-57c but never anything higher lols.

This is actually my channel showing the CPU cooler in my case just to show you what I am using and how it is in the case.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4da74yaRYY

Some settings you might want to look into are.

CPU/NB Voltage: v1.2 is what I use atm
CPU Vcore: v1.3875 is what I’m set to at 3.9GHz, anything under v1.45 is good, but note that passed v1.4 and you start to get lots of heat due to increased voltage. Also some motherboards will actually add some voltage ontop of your setting to compensate Vdroop (Drop in Vcore voltage) Also note that a Vcore pass v1.48 with a X4 Phenom and your want to consider getting water cooling but I don’t advise going passed v1.45 if possible, unless you want to fork ou the dow on a Corsair H100 which are actually nice when setup right :P.
Ram timings I use are 9-9-9-24-2T @ 1600MHz @ v1.5, I’m using 2 different sets of G.Skill otherwise I’d be 7-8-7-24-2T :/ my sister figured she’d suprise me with something PC related 1 christmas LOL.
NorthBridge Freq, or NB is 2.4GHz, usually this is a good medium to be at and since my ram is different sets I don’t mess with it lols.
HT Link is at 2GHz usually will want to leave this alone at 2GHz.

Nice, thanks for the info. What are you using to OC your processor? I actually downloaded AMD Overdrive and it seems like a very nice utility to OC the Phenom series, seems fairly granular.

Using just my Bios to OC as its the safest way, I never trust an OC to software as that can cause serious issues or even worse Damage your PC lolz. Also btw I’m running idle at 81F atm as I type this lols, yes F lolz thats about 27-28c lolz so ya I love my cooler lols, something to point out is the higher the CFM is on a fan the better the cooling Obviously lolz, but it also creates more noise :/, before I got the Areocool Sharks I was using some Thermaltakes http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106153 there really nice fans but loud lol, if your ganna use these I’d look in to a 2 pin to 3 pin converter cable so you can hook them up to a fan controller.

Alteris.1528:

Using just my Bios to OC as its the safest way, I never trust an OC to software as that can cause serious issues or even worse Damage your PC lolz. Also btw I’m running idle at 81F atm as I type this lols, yes F lolz thats about 27-28c lolz so ya I love my cooler lols, something to point out is the higher the CFM is on a fan the better the cooling Obviously lolz, but it also creates more noise :/, before I got the Areocool Sharks I was using some Thermaltakes http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106153 there really nice fans but loud lol, if your ganna use these I’d look in to a 2 pin to 3 pin converter cable so you can hook them up to a fan controller.

Again thanks for the info. How did you attach the second fan to the other side of the cooler. Looked like it only came with a clip for the one side.

Rabbiddog.7690:

Alteris.1528:

Using just my Bios to OC as its the safest way, I never trust an OC to software as that can cause serious issues or even worse Damage your PC lolz. Also btw I’m running idle at 81F atm as I type this lols, yes F lolz thats about 27-28c lolz so ya I love my cooler lols, something to point out is the higher the CFM is on a fan the better the cooling Obviously lolz, but it also creates more noise :/, before I got the Areocool Sharks I was using some Thermaltakes http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106153 there really nice fans but loud lol, if your ganna use these I’d look in to a 2 pin to 3 pin converter cable so you can hook them up to a fan controller.

Again thanks for the info. How did you attach the second fan to the other side of the cooler. Looked like it only came with a clip for the one side.

It actually come’s with 4 clips cause of the option to have 2 fans

Never OC your chip using amd overdrive its much better to do it in the bios settings.