Guild Wars 2

I know many are having FPS issues so i wanted to also bring mine to attention.

Im running a:
4770k oc to 4.4ghz
GTX Titan 6Gb card
Samsung 512gb SSD

When in Lions Arch, i average about 30fps on Ultra setting or 60FPs when not moving.
The problem is when im playing WvW. My FPS drops to below 10FPS when engaging another zerg and im forced to put my setting down to “Best Performance” to even play.

As far as i can tell, this is the only game i have that runs terribly on my system.

Is this pretty normal FPS on a system like mine, or is there something else most likely going on.

Not sure what your issue might be. One of the buddies I play the game with has double Titan SLI and a 3820 i7 and I asked what kind of FPS he got. He said… “When everyone else is crying in wvw, I’m laughing.” so… I guess that’s high fps ._. Your issue though I dunno what it could possibly be.

how many fps you have in “Best Performance”?
i have an fx 8350 and hd 6850, in big zerg vs zerg i get 12 fps but if i select best performance, i get 32 fps

Zerg fights are just really demanding, especially map zerg fights when running at higher settings. I personally go through and knock down shadows, reflections, character model quality, post processing, AA, and shaders when I go into WvW, and I generally get good enough performance. Just lower a few settings and you should be fine.

Avelos.6798:

Not sure what your issue might be. One of the buddies I play the game with has double Titan SLI and a 3820 i7 and I asked what kind of FPS he got. He said… “When everyone else is crying in wvw, I’m laughing.” so… I guess that’s high fps ._.

I find that somewhat hard to believe. A 3820 is outperformed by a 3770k, or even a 4670k when it comes to single threaded power, and both of those CPUs have issues in big zergs. He’s either

The GPU in GW2 is pretty irrelevant after a certain point, unless your running super high resolution multi screens.
GW2 is CPU dependent. In massive PvE zergs(Maw etc) I can bog down to 15 fps. Altering graphical settings for me doesn’t change anything with the exception of reflections(which are off completely), and I use supersampling at all times.Switching from Native to Supersampling provides little to no performance boost in zergs. The big hit comes in from culling. Altering culling settings does have an impact. I have noticed that even on Lowest/Lowest, I will usually get about 40fps or so during big big zergs.
We were promised a performance patch a few months back and I doubt that we will ever see it. Just get used to the crappy fps and move on…

In certain games the Hyperthreading of the 4770 is resulting in worse FPS than it should (yes, while it is outstanding in renderapplications of course). I didn’t hear about if it is affecting GW2 though, but for testing reasons you could try it and disable Hyperthreading just yet.

Fermi.2409:

(…)I find that somewhat hard to believe. A 3820 is outperformed by a 3770k, or even a 4670k when it comes to single threaded power, and both of those CPUs have issues in big zergs. He’s either

I found it already hard to believe that someone would truly run a Titan SLI, except for testing or benchmark issues. Just for information: a Nvidia Titan is an Enthusiast class graficscard and probably the best card of them all atm, cost factor about as much as a complete upper middleclass pc. Running 2 of them at the same time would be something like running a car with an aircraft engine, in my humble oppinion. You get the power, but never actually need it. But anyway, as been said before me: since GW2 is mostly CPU and not GPU dependant, it is probably not helping to stack more graficspower anyway.

Chnage ur culling settings to the following.

Character Limit : highest
Texture Limit : medium

Also change reflections to Terrain and Sky

With those setting u should stay above 25 fps in all but the biggest EB zergs. At which point change Texture Limit to Low and if ur still below 20fps then change Character Limit to High.

Kaiman.3150:

II found it already hard to believe that someone would truly run a Titan SLI, except for testing or benchmark issues. Just for information: a Nvidia Titan is an Enthusiast class graficscard and probably the best card of them all atm, cost factor about as much as a complete upper middleclass pc. Running 2 of them at the same time would be something like running a car with an aircraft engine, in my humble oppinion. You get the power, but never actually need it. But anyway, as been said before me: since GW2 is mostly CPU and not GPU dependant, it is probably not helping to stack more graficspower anyway.

I know exactly what a Titan is.

If you’re trying to push higher resolutions or multiscreen setups, or maintain 120 FPS/some other higher framerate, additional graphical horsepower can come in handy. There are many people who could use Titan SLI- just because you don’t see the use for it doesn’t mean that other people don’t.

GTX Titan is perfect for gaming on a single screen at 3840×2160, or just keeping the frame rates at 60 FPS or higher at all times in a game when you have the right processor paired with it (IE, i7 3770K or 3570K or 4670K or 4770K or any of the LGA 2011 products if it’s a CPU heavy game)
If I had the money for it, I would definitely buy a pair of GTX Titans. But I have two 7970s that I’m satisfied with. When I went out to build my PC, I wanted it to be the best at the time so I bought what I wanted. Heck, I would love to have myself an intel i7 extreme edition system running 4 way SLI Titans. Why? Because I can and I’d use it of course. Would be a gaming PC that lasted for YEARS and years.

Fermi.2409:

I know exactly what a Titan is.

If you’re trying to push higher resolutions or multiscreen setups, or maintain 120 FPS/some other higher framerate, additional graphical horsepower can come in handy. There are many people who could use Titan SLI- just because you don’t see the use for it doesn’t mean that other people don’t.

Well I didn’t actually try to explain the Nvidia Titan to you, after you were talking about it. As you probably know there are more people reading this thread, why didn’t that come to your mind?

And don’t worry, I am fine if people would like to run a Titan SLI, even if they only want to send some E-Mails with it or to use it only to tell on Facebook that they got the largest…uh…the fastest computer on earth now, however this is not my taste and also a Titan SLI is pretty darn expensive, what brings my attention to the actual cost efficiency of it.
However you may build it of course and I won’t hold you back to do so, but I am pretty sure you won’t need the horsepower actually, even if you are running 2 displays. Might get handy if you are playing games while downsampling the resolution, but again that is cost unefficient, not to mention the bill you are going to pay in the end for electricity if you are doing so.
To sum it up shortly: it is hard to believe for me someone is really going to do so, as I said.

I am sorry if I offended you by paying only discredit for the most powerful pc setup at the moment, but frankly this is my oppinion and I fear you cannot change that as long it is as it is.

Oh yes, running two GTX Titans is going to make the electricity bill skyrocket. When I assembled my PC, the bill for electricity went up by a few dollars. Maybe as much as 3.

Kaiman.3150:

Well I didn’t actually try to explain the Nvidia Titan to you, after you were talking about it. As you probably know there are more people reading this thread, why didn’t that come to your mind?

The fact that you quoted me, said a sentence, and started rambling on about the Titan certainly made it look like you were making your point at me.

Kaiman.3150:

I am pretty sure you won’t need the horsepower actually, even if you are running 2 displays. Might get handy if you are playing games while downsampling the resolution, but again that is cost unefficient, not to mention the bill you are going to pay in the end for electricity if you are doing so.
To sum it up shortly: it is hard to believe for me someone is really going to do so, as I said.

I am sorry if I offended you for paying only discredit for the most powerful pc setup at the moment, but frankly this is my oppinion and I fear you cannot change that as long it is as it is.

So what you’re saying is that in your opinion that much horsepower isn’t needed. The issue is that it’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of fact that you need multiple Titans (or 7990s, or so on and so on). to push higher settings at high resolutions (ie, 7680×1600 or 1440). Hell, even a titan can’t max games at 2160P, which is much more tame then a tri-monitor setup.

Then you say ‘it is hard to believe that someone would do that’. However, it’s a fact that people will. Exactly for the same reason why you would buy a Ferrari or 911 instead of an Prius or a Buick or something else equally godawful – you get a much better experience.

Anywho, I’m not ‘offended’. I don’t really care what you think about a dual Titan setup. And you’re right, it’s horribly cost inefficient- I completely agree. But, games will require that much horsepower once you get to a certain point in terms of resolution, and people will want to play at those resolutions, which means that multi-Titan (or 3/4 CF/SLI high end other GPUs) will be necessary.

Edit: I am being sort of a kitten, and I apologize, but still, having that much horsepower can be a complete necessity if you’re trying to run high resolution/multimonitor setups.

Fermi.2409:

The fact that you quoted me, said a sentence, and started rambling on about the Titan certainly made it look like you were making your point at me.

Actually I was thinking I would agree to the point you made there and just realized you are not that dude who was telling the story about his friend with the SLI. Hmkay.

Fermi.2409:

So what you’re saying is that in your opinion that much horsepower isn’t needed. The issue is that it’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a matter of fact that you need multiple Titans (or 7990s, or so on and so on). to push higher settings at high resolutions (ie, 7680×1600 or 1440). Hell, even a titan can’t max games at 2160P, which is much more tame then a tri-monitor setup.

Then you say ‘it is hard to believe that someone would do that’. However, it’s a fact that people will. Exactly for the same reason why you would buy a Ferrari or 911 instead of an Prius or a Buick or something else equally godawful – you get a much better experience.

Anywho, I’m not ‘offended’. I don’t really care what you think about a dual Titan setup. And you’re right, it’s horribly cost inefficient- I completely agree. But, games will require that much horsepower once you get to a certain point in terms of resolution, and people will want to play at those resolutions, which means that multi-Titan (or 3/4 CF/SLI high end other GPUs) will be necessary.

Yeah probably people would buy even 6 or more Titans if they could, but still hard to believe someone (a simple gamer) would favor a multiple screen setup under these circumstances. Well, seems I am the only poor peasant here, right?

And yes, my oppinion is that you don’t need that setup. You may need it for your high resolutions, but I don’t need that. Neither the high resolution, nor a Titan SLI. Period.

Simple gamers don’t need it nor will they buy it. There’s a lot of PC enthusiasts who throw that kind of money into a new system each year when new GPUs and processors come out so they do just that.
And if you don’t need the Titan, then why are you trying to tell us that there’s no point to having it? Other people want it. You don’t. Stop being so abrasive about it.

Kaiman.3150:

And yes, my oppinion is that you don’t need that setup. You may need it for your high resolutions, but I don’t need that. Neither the high resolution, nor a Titan SLI. Period.

I (pretty much) agree with that. 2560×1600 would be nice, although I’d need a much better computer for it and the necessary monitor would be rather on the big size for my tastes. But, if you want that higher resolution, Titan SLI or something of similar power is necessary.

Avelos.6798:

(…)And if you don’t need the Titan, then why are you trying to tell us that there’s no point to having it? Other people want it. You don’t. Stop being so abrasive about it.

Sorry if I was causing mischief, but I’m actually trying hard to keep cool and to be as much objective as I can, usually. Here I was only about sharing my two cents to start with.

Btw, while I tried to recover how the thread turned a bit off-topic, I realized you were actually talking about double Titan SLI at your friend, what makes even 4 Titans in one rig, right? thought you were talking about simple SLI what made me wonder already! >:D
To clarify, if I would buy a card for a new pc atm, I would probably get only one GTX760, but I was even thinking about keeping my GTX560 until it is going to break, lol, but not sure yet. A Titan card is obviously great and I would buy one, but I think it’s a bit too expensive. And then SLI or double SLI is even more expensive, imo the thought of buying 4 of them feels almost like throwing money at the public space in the city, …while laughing with tears in the eye and dancing like David Bowie in the 80s! – Okay I’m exaggerating now, but to buy even only one Titan I’d already need to cross a personal barrier. If you are fine with buying one, go for it and enjoy it, it’s a monster.

But anyway and to get back to topic, I wouldn’t believe until I see it, that a double Titan SLI would make a GW2 Zerg run way better, cause I think it is mostly CPU dependant, as Fermi said.

AHEM

780’s are better for gaming than Titans.

That is all, carry on.

Never.8571:

780’s are better for gaming than Titans.

That is all, carry on.

Ahem.
The GTX 780 is a binned Titan.
They both use the same GK110 chip.
Titan has 2,688 Cuda cores.
GTX 780 has 2,304 Cuda cores.
Looking at reference design, ignoring cost,
Titan is better.

But I suppose, that when you take the GTX 780 for it being at least $350 cheaper, and you can bump up the clocks a little bit (can’t do anything for the fact of 3 GB GDDR5 though,) then the 780 will be better.

Avelos.6798:

Never.8571:

780’s are better for gaming than Titans.

That is all, carry on.

Ahem.
The GTX 780 is a binned Titan.
They both use the same GK110 chip.
Titan has 2,688 Cuda cores.
GTX 780 has 2,304 Cuda cores.
Looking at reference design, ignoring cost,
Titan is better.

But I suppose, that when you take the GTX 780 for it being at least $350 cheaper, and you can bump up the clocks a little bit (can’t do anything for the fact of 3 GB GDDR5 though,) then the 780 will be better.

You’re right. With a bit of an OC, the 780 can easily outdo a Titan. The 6GB only helps if you’re running so many mods on a game using triple monitors, or more, or AutoCADing the Earth.

The Titan is better for rendering, and GPU-computing. If you’re gaming, better to go with 780’s.