Guild Wars 2

Hi. everything is okay. I keep solid 70-100 fps in big cities with many people no problem. But in WvW 20v20 or 30v30 FPS drops down to 30-40 ridicoulos…

But I go join WvW and the fps attack begins. And I know you will say “oh no it’s WvW ur supposed to drop frames”, but I don’t know I have pretty solid specs and I’ve asked people and they say I shouldn’t be having any problems, anyways here;

Intel i7-2600k@3.4Ghz overclocked up to 4.3Ghz (can go further but would not want to melt the processor)
ASUS GTX 750 OC 1GB overclocked memory by 400 mhz and the GPU by 50mhz
8 GB RAM (4 GB is used when GW2 is running)
Motherboard: ASUS Z77-V PRO

I’ve looked at graphs on the usage of GPU using ASUS GPU Tweak and noticed that up to 100% of my GPU is used when GW2 is running. Then I checked up on the activity of the i7 on task manager and found out that only 30% of it is being used.

100% GPU usage and 30% CPU usage, what to do? How to fix?

Regards, Krisi.

EDIT: I’d also like to add that Im running this on the lowest of ALL settings.

Your 750 is the main issue, but the rest is just in how GW2 works.

In a WvW battle with 30vs30vs30 my FPS drops down like that too and my specs are far above yours.

sirsquishy.8531:

Your 750 is the main issue, but the rest is just in how GW2 works.

In a WvW battle with 30vs30vs30 my FPS drops down like that too and my specs are far above yours.

…I bought this gcard to upgrade from my 6 year old ATI Radeon 5770, it has made a tremendous difference but the WvW zerg issue is still there… :s This makes 0 sense…

Skenderbeu.9102:

sirsquishy.8531:

Your 750 is the main issue, but the rest is just in how GW2 works.

In a WvW battle with 30vs30vs30 my FPS drops down like that too and my specs are far above yours.

…I bought this gcard to upgrade from my 6 year old ATI Radeon 5770, it has made a tremendous difference but the WvW zerg issue is still there… :s This makes 0 sense…

The game isn’t optimized to full take advantage of processors.

Bigger zergs = more load on your processor but the engine doesn’t use it to fully so you get FPS drop.

For reference, I’m getting 50-70% cpu usage on a 2500k @ 4.2ghz and 50-80% GPU usage on a 280x on max all settings with SweetFx overlay.

100% usage on your GPU probably means there is room for an upgrade that could possibly increase your FPS.

30% on your processor is a little bit on the low side and might translate to your GPU bottlenecking it.

Skenderbeu.9102:

sirsquishy.8531:

Your 750 is the main issue, but the rest is just in how GW2 works.

In a WvW battle with 30vs30vs30 my FPS drops down like that too and my specs are far above yours.

…I bought this gcard to upgrade from my 6 year old ATI Radeon 5770, it has made a tremendous difference but the WvW zerg issue is still there… :s This makes 0 sense…

I remember a dev said that this game was developed on nvidia 9800GT. Basically, this game graphics can run very well on low end graphic cards; however, they should had waited a bit long to test the cpu side of things to see if the game scales up.

It doesnt.

Izaya.2906:

Skenderbeu.9102:

sirsquishy.8531:

Your 750 is the main issue, but the rest is just in how GW2 works.

In a WvW battle with 30vs30vs30 my FPS drops down like that too and my specs are far above yours.

…I bought this gcard to upgrade from my 6 year old ATI Radeon 5770, it has made a tremendous difference but the WvW zerg issue is still there… :s This makes 0 sense…

The game isn’t optimized to full take advantage of processors.

Bigger zergs = more load on your processor but the engine doesn’t use it to fully so you get FPS drop.

For reference, I’m getting 50-70% cpu usage on a 2500k @ 4.2ghz and 50-80% GPU usage on a 280x on max all settings with SweetFx overlay.

100% usage on your GPU probably means there is room for an upgrade that could possibly increase your FPS.

30% on your processor is a little bit on the low side and might translate to your GPU bottlenecking it.

How do you stop the gcard from bottlenecking? Which grapihcs card would I have to buy that is strong enough for my CPU?

Skenderbeu.9102:

Izaya.2906:

Skenderbeu.9102:

sirsquishy.8531:

Your 750 is the main issue, but the rest is just in how GW2 works.

In a WvW battle with 30vs30vs30 my FPS drops down like that too and my specs are far above yours.

…I bought this gcard to upgrade from my 6 year old ATI Radeon 5770, it has made a tremendous difference but the WvW zerg issue is still there… :s This makes 0 sense…

The game isn’t optimized to full take advantage of processors.

Bigger zergs = more load on your processor but the engine doesn’t use it to fully so you get FPS drop.

For reference, I’m getting 50-70% cpu usage on a 2500k @ 4.2ghz and 50-80% GPU usage on a 280x on max all settings with SweetFx overlay.

100% usage on your GPU probably means there is room for an upgrade that could possibly increase your FPS.

30% on your processor is a little bit on the low side and might translate to your GPU bottlenecking it.

How do you stop the gcard from bottlenecking? Which grapihcs card would I have to buy that is strong enough for my CPU?

280x, HD7870,GTX770, or something rated at or higher then those 3 cards is where the bottle necking on the GPU stops for GW2.

But regardless of what GPU you get, the CPU is never fast enough. Even my 4790K at 5Ghz can only see 30FPS in Zerg Content.

sirsquishy.8531:

Skenderbeu.9102:

Izaya.2906:

Skenderbeu.9102:

sirsquishy.8531:

Your 750 is the main issue, but the rest is just in how GW2 works.

In a WvW battle with 30vs30vs30 my FPS drops down like that too and my specs are far above yours.

…I bought this gcard to upgrade from my 6 year old ATI Radeon 5770, it has made a tremendous difference but the WvW zerg issue is still there… :s This makes 0 sense…

The game isn’t optimized to full take advantage of processors.

Bigger zergs = more load on your processor but the engine doesn’t use it to fully so you get FPS drop.

For reference, I’m getting 50-70% cpu usage on a 2500k @ 4.2ghz and 50-80% GPU usage on a 280x on max all settings with SweetFx overlay.

100% usage on your GPU probably means there is room for an upgrade that could possibly increase your FPS.

30% on your processor is a little bit on the low side and might translate to your GPU bottlenecking it.

How do you stop the gcard from bottlenecking? Which grapihcs card would I have to buy that is strong enough for my CPU?

280x, HD7870,GTX770, or something rated at or higher then those 3 cards is where the bottle necking on the GPU stops for GW2.

But regardless of what GPU you get, the CPU is never fast enough. Even my 4790K at 5Ghz can only see 30FPS in Zerg Content.

God kitten man… I only had a budget for like 110 euros and that fell on to me buying the gtx 750 the 770 is really expensive, I might get it in the future :p, thanks for your help =)

I recommend checking ebay for a 7870/270/270x or even 280/290 cards there are a ton of them coming out of coin mining rigs that are going cheap and are in excellent working condition, i got a 290x and am very happy I did….though, it dosnt matter in this game, gw2 has a serious flaw that comes from bad choices early in dev.

gw2 uses 3 heavy threads if any of them stall even for an instant, the whole game takes a huge perf hit.

the educated speculation on this comes down to the fact that anet thought they could make an xbox 360 port for the game(it has a tricore cpu and dx9 gpu) when that didnt work out(because the 360’s cpu wouldnt be able to deal for starters) they didnt go back and fix the issues caused by those choices but, just decided to let the players deal/live with the bad choices management made.

it ticks me off because, I expected better from anet…..with all the big talk about the game coming out with dx10/11 support, and proper threading and all that….it comes out dx9 only, and optimized in such a way that you needa 6-8ghz tricore cpu to avoid bottlenecking……

Jazhara Knightmage.4389:

I recommend checking ebay for a 7870/270/270x or even 280/290 cards there are a ton of them coming out of coin mining rigs that are going cheap and are in excellent working condition, i got a 290x and am very happy I did….though, it dosnt matter in this game, gw2 has a serious flaw that comes from bad choices early in dev.

gw2 uses 3 heavy threads if any of them stall even for an instant, the whole game takes a huge perf hit.

the educated speculation on this comes down to the fact that anet thought they could make an xbox 360 port for the game(it has a tricore cpu and dx9 gpu) when that didnt work out(because the 360’s cpu wouldnt be able to deal for starters) they didnt go back and fix the issues caused by those choices but, just decided to let the players deal/live with the bad choices management made.

it ticks me off because, I expected better from anet…..with all the big talk about the game coming out with dx10/11 support, and proper threading and all that….it comes out dx9 only, and optimized in such a way that you needa 6-8ghz tricore cpu to avoid bottlenecking……

I see makes some sense now and I feel your pain. wow. just wow on ANet… lol!