I want 60 fps not less
What you can do is pay ArenaNet and/or NCSoft enough money to redo the Guild Wars 2 engine and make it work right the second time around.
You can buy better hardware.
In reality though, if you’re getting 60 FPS in chaotic WvW battles, you’re pulling some voodoo magic out of the mists and I wish you to teach the rest of us how to achieve such FPS.
The joking aside, it might be that your hardware is thermally throttling itself down which is why after a while your FPS dips. I would monitor your CPU and GPU temperatures while playing the game and see where they go. If you don’t already have software that monitors the GPU and CPU temperatures, then I would recommend grabbing HWMonitor here:
http://www.cpuid.com/downloads/hwmonitor/1.22-setup.exe
Chloe (Version 3):
[i7 930 @ 4.1Ghz (1.3875V) w/Cooler Master 120M][Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 (stock)]
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The gpu is only 54C and fan operating at 21% heat is not a problem. not for the cpu either i have a really powerful cpu and gw2 require only 20-30% cpu. I dont know what else i can do. The gpu workload is only on 9% so i know a better gpu would not make a difference. I hope arenanet priority this. I own a gameserver myself so i know fps can be complicated to optimize.
Without knowing hardware and gaming resolution etc there is nothing for us to do to help.
My gpu is ATI Radeon HD 5800 series
Overclocked to 930mhz clock speed and 1390mhz memory. From gw2 i get max 9% activity which means its not even close to what my GPU can handle therefor i don’t think a better one is going to fix it.
Edit
And resolution is 1920×1080 its what i always use, i tried to put it lower to see if it made any difference in gw2, it didn’t even if it did this is the resolution i prefer.
Is this enough hardware info or do i have to get more technical?
Edit
It did help a bit to put super sampling on native.
I get 60fps when im alone without any mobs or npcs but even then its not stable. I want stable 60fps any help appreciated.
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The info you gave I would not even consider basic, so yes, get “technical”. We need model of GPU, not vague series number, we need CPU model number and any OC’s you have on it. Model of RAM and amount, what OS are you running? Supersample is going to kill about any setups FPS, and you are not going to get a stable 60 FPS on any rig right now if your play includes zergs or WvW, you can give up on the 60FPS now.
Perhaps overclocking is your issue. Your GPU is getting old , especially if its a 5830 so I would be expecting your GPU to be using everything it has to play the game at highest settings. You are right though, the game should be using more than the percent of GPU you are stating. I have a feeling something might be up with your hardware, I’ve seen more powerful GPU’s sit at 100%. Cut back to native speeds on your GPU and see what happens, overclocking might have harmed your card in some way.
Also, lets make sure your GPU is actually reading the full 16 PCI-e lanes rather than 1 or 4. An easy way to check this would be to use GPU-Z and check the ‘Bus Speed’. If its 2.0 x16 we’re good, anything other than that might warrant some investigation.
Out of curiosity, what is your ‘powerful’ CPU that you have going with your GPU?
Chloe (Version 3):
[i7 930 @ 4.1Ghz (1.3875V) w/Cooler Master 120M][Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 (stock)]
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Neither my gpu or cpu or ram is stressed so whats you’re point? what matters most here is my gpu. if something else was working on its limits i would say so.
Ok here is more info wall of text don’t think it will lead anywhere.
Out of characters so new post…
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I’m guessing you are running a radeon 5850 1gb. I have the same card and I keep it at default 765/1125mhz and the game runs just fine. My CPU is i5 760 with no overclocking and 4 gigs of ram. I don’t know how you are monitoring the GPU usage and heat, but if you are alt tabbing and to check the Catalyst control panel then that is inaccurate. As soon as you alt tab out of the game, the card powers down to lower clock speeds. I believe your overclock speeds are near if not the max setting that Catalyst allows.
I can max every setting at 1080 with rendering at native and the game runs 30-40. I find the 2 biggest things that eat up performance is best texture filtering and reflections. Reflections for some reason eats up FPS with no real quality difference except around water and FPS still goes down even when theres no water around. I thought it might be armor shine, but that comes from shaders settings. Turning those 2 off I get 50-70FPS. Zergs eat up a lot of performance as well in WvW or Southsun champ farms. It will drop to 20ish but not unplayable. My WvW culling settings are at medium/low. There’s no need to see everyone in the zerg, you just need to know it’s around you.
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I get sometimes as low as 20-25fps when there is a couple players around but yes i did that alt tab catalyst center. i will try to log data to file with gpuid while playing gw2 a couple of hours to get more accurate result on workload. 20fps is not unplayable but i am not happy with that.
I’m guessing you are running a radeon 5850 1gb. I have the same card and I keep it at default 765/1125mhz and the game runs just fine. My CPU is i5 760 with no overclocking and 4 gigs of ram. I don’t know how you are monitoring the GPU usage and heat, but if you are alt tabbing and to check the Catalyst control panel then that is inaccurate. As soon as you alt tab out of the game, the card powers down to lower clock speeds. I believe your overclock speeds are near if not the max setting that Catalyst allows.
I can max every setting at 1080 with rendering at native and the game runs 30-40. I find the 2 biggest things that eat up performance is best texture filtering and reflections. Reflections for some reason eats up FPS with no real quality difference except around water and FPS still goes down even when theres no water around. I thought it might be armor shine, but that comes from shaders settings. Turning those 2 off I get 50-70FPS. Zergs eat up a lot of performance as well in WvW or Southsun champ farms. It will drop to 20ish but not unplayable. My WvW culling settings are at medium/low. There’s no need to see everyone in the zerg, you just need to know it’s around you.
This is slightly off topic, but useful information and still relevant AFAIK. The reason that when you change the reflections settings even when there is no water around and still get dramatic FPS changes is because the game’s engine incorporates Umbra’s software:
http://www.umbrasoftware.com/en/
however, something has screwed up where instead of not actually rendering stuff that you can’t see (like under the ground where water likely is) it still renders it and causes you to make reflections, etc. etc. I actually glitched underneath the ground in Snowden Drifts while next to a sound turret thing from F&F. All that was under the ground was water, the entire map is initially water (presumably to set the sea level to a certain height) then the land is built above/below the water (below for lakes/ponds/etc) and everything is above.
Chloe (Version 3):
[i7 930 @ 4.1Ghz (1.3875V) w/Cooler Master 120M][Gigabyte G1 Gaming GTX 970 (stock)]
Ok i have been monitoring my gpu now for 2h 27mins and it turns out the average workload is on 25% not counting the 0s. So that means its not that i don’t have a good enough gpu i just can’t get it higher the bottleneck is in anet’s hands.
I also like to point out that a lot of the time the gpu is not processing anything from 23:23:39-23:24:28 it was on 0% all the time.
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Ok i have been monitoring my gpu now for 2h 27mins and it turns out the average workload is on 25% not counting the 0s. So that means its not that i don’t have a good enough gpu i just can’t get it higher the bottleneck is in anet’s hands.
I also like to point out that a lot of the time the gpu is not processing anything from 23:23:39-23:24:28 it was on 0% all the time.
If your GPU is at 25%, your CPU is the bottleneck , not your gpu
/ 2x XFX R9 290x in Crossfire
If your GPU is at 25%, your CPU is the bottleneck , not your gpu
My cpu never go past 30% this is not even close to stressing for my cpu nope thats not it.
When is your GPU at 25%? In WvW or leveling and exploring?
/ 2x XFX R9 290x in Crossfire
Also CPUs are split up into cores. So if you have 4 cores and you’re using 25%, check to see if one of the cores is maxed at 100%, most games will not use 100% of all 4 cores
/ 2x XFX R9 290x in Crossfire
I think its everywhere but i get way higher fps when there is no players and mobs around.
Am I the only one missing OP’s processor brand and model?
Am I the only one missing OP’s processor brand and model?
Yes please, Tom could you tell us what your cpu model is?
/ 2x XFX R9 290x in Crossfire
I think its everywhere but i get way higher fps when there is no players and mobs around.
sound like a textbook case of a cpu bottleneck.
since the OP is not providing the cpu model. Lets play a game of trying to guess it.
Maybe a phenom X II 4 or worse
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Am I the only one missing OP’s processor brand and model?
Yes please, Tom could you tell us what your cpu model is?
Intel core i7 930 but this is slightly offtopic because i only get around 20-25% CPU usage when playing gw2 and i have the latest drivers.
Am I the only one missing OP’s processor brand and model?
Yes please, Tom could you tell us what your cpu model is?
Intel core i7 930 but this is slightly offtopic because i only get around 20-25% CPU usage when playing gw2 and i have the latest drivers.
Yep you are cpu bottlenecked.
20-25% percent mean you are using 1 core to the fullest.
Besides, my AMD apu is probably just as good or stronger than your cpu
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His CPU is fine. Myabe just a little better than my i5 760. I think it’s a graphic setting that you’re cranking up too high for these slowdowns. Do you manually configure setting in your catalyst control panel? Because it can override game setting. Make sure morphological filtering is off. It blurs the game up.
His CPU is fine. Myabe just a little better than my i5 760. I think it’s a graphic setting that you’re cranking up too high for these slowdowns. Do you manually configure setting in your catalyst control panel? Because it can override game setting. Make sure morphological filtering is off. It blurs the game up.
Negative. Graphics settings will only adjust gpu usage.
Turning graphics down will only stress the GPU less. Displaying multiple people on screen at the same time is going to be more intensive on the CPU. This is what he’s having problems with. He can try turning down graphics settings but he still will have low fps when others are around.
/ 2x XFX R9 290x in Crossfire
My i7 920, which is almost the same as his 930, is running at 3,5GHz and is clearly a bottleneck, so it’ll be the same in his case. He just doesn’t use the right tools or reads the graphs incorrectly.
I just discovered that i have some major problems with cooling, when my cpu get to 45% it gets to 100celsius. It have not always been like this, I have to buy some dust removal tools and demount the computer get rid of all the dust and then see what happens.
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I just discovered that i have some major problems with cooling, when my cpu get to 45% it gets to 100celsius. It have not always been like this, I have to buy some dust removal tools and demount the computer get rid of all the dust and then see what happens.
100 C on a desktop cpu is quite bad.
100c is way 2 high u should try to reapply tim and or change ur cooling system..
at those temps throttling may accur . make sure ur cooler is mounted properly.
If ur overclocking u might wanna take the voltage down some notches /and or multiplier
to get ur system at a speed it can run with decent temps..
Asus gtx 670 sli @1333mhz mem @3715mhz|
Corsair Force GT 120GB|Samsung Spinpoint F1 Raid 0
Cleaned the dust and now everything is perfect i get 135 fps but i limit it to 60 so it run more stable i get 60 even in la with a decent amount of players and most settings on high. The cpu also work less 12%-22% everything is fine now
Ah the old “have you dusted your heatsink lately” solution.
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