Guild Wars 2

So I just built a new Computer and i was hoping I could get a solid 60 FPS with guild wars. However I was sad to find that I can barely hold 30 – 45 the game automatically puts me at Max settings. However even with everything set to low i cannot stay at a solid 60. I am at a loss, any advice is much appreciated.

Specs are as follows (DXDIAG):
OS: Windows 8.1 Pro 64-bit
CPU: AMD FX – 8350 (8 CPUs) , ~ 4.0 GHz
RAM: 16GB
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 760
GPU Approx. Total Memory 4033 MB

Attached is the full DXDIAG

Zezariz.6845:

So I just built a new Computer …….. guild wars
CPU: AMD FX – 8350 (8 CPUs) , ~ 4.0 GHz
……

There’s ur problem.
GW2 is incredibly CPU bound and badly optimised, it needs high single thread performance, AMD CPU’s don’t have great single thread performance. That said even an Intel rig with its much better single thread performance wont do much better and that’s just down to GW2.
If u were building a rig just for GW2, u should have asked here for advice, we all would have advised getting an intel i5 or i7 for best results. It still wouldn’t stay pegged at 60 FPS in all situations but it would be better than an AMD cpu.

keep setting at max EXCEPT reflections. Put that to terrain and sky. Then Set culling to Highest Character limit and Medium texture.
WvW, large Dynamic Events, and LA will still have bad FPS, but PvE should be ok.

Thank you! xD I wasn’t building it necessarily FOR guild wars but I was kinda just hoping :P thanks for the advice. Ill give it a shot.

Zezariz.6845:

Thank you! xD I wasn’t building it necessarily FOR guild wars but I was kinda just hoping :P thanks for the advice. Ill give it a shot.

On top of the other suggestions, In your Bios you can disable the 2nd Core per Module to help ‘smooth’ Performance out for GW2. It wont necessarily give more then 5-8 FPS, but it will reduce the FPS bouncing you are getting.

And I would suggest considering overclocking that CPU to 4.5-4.6Ghz. While the Single thread on the FX is slower then Intel, CPUs seem to do better on this game at 4.6Ghz~.

I used to have a AMD rig. I used most of the tweaks listed here:
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=327922

and i was able to produce acceptable frame rates. (Zergs still killed my frame rate though.)

also gamebooster can give you around a 10fps increase.
http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html

First off thank you for all the fine advice I plan on trying all your tips xD

sirsquishy.8531:

And I would suggest considering overclocking that CPU to 4.5-4.6Ghz. While the Single thread on the FX is slower then Intel, CPUs seem to do better on this game at 4.6Ghz~.

second I have a question about overclocking. I know how to do it, I’ve done my research. However I cannot decided weather my current cooling setup is sufficient to support it.

I have a Noctua NH-D14 sitting on my CPU and 7 120 mm fans in total. (2 intake on front and sides 2 exhaust on the top and 1 in back) Out of the box I have never seen my CPU go over 37 degrees while stressed.

I was told go liquid cooling if i plan on overclocking. I’m just mad nervous about leaks and what not. Let me know what you think I am in the process of tweaking all of my settings :P

I saw no difference overclocking my 8350 to 4.7 GHz.

Zezariz.6845:

First off thank you for all the fine advice I plan on trying all your tips xD

sirsquishy.8531:

And I would suggest considering overclocking that CPU to 4.5-4.6Ghz. While the Single thread on the FX is slower then Intel, CPUs seem to do better on this game at 4.6Ghz~.

second I have a question about overclocking. I know how to do it, I’ve done my research. However I cannot decided weather my current cooling setup is sufficient to support it.

I have a Noctua NH-D14 sitting on my CPU and 7 120 mm fans in total. (2 intake on front and sides 2 exhaust on the top and 1 in back) Out of the box I have never seen my CPU go over 37 degrees while stressed.

I was told go liquid cooling if i plan on overclocking. I’m just mad nervous about leaks and what not. Let me know what you think I am in the process of tweaking all of my settings :P

Noctura makes good cooling devices. You don’t NEED to go liquid to overclock, but many recommend it. All cpu’s are different, some wont overclock over 4.3 even if you have some kind of liquid setup. And some will overclock to 5.0 on air. Dont shoot for 4.6 off the bat, take baby steps. try something like 4.0 and play GW2 for a few hours.
If your PC doesn’t crash, try 4.1. wash, rinse, repeat.

If you decide you want a liquid setup, closed loops are fairly safe and not much more $ than good air heatsinks.

NeedCoffee.1402:

Zezariz.6845:

First off thank you for all the fine advice I plan on trying all your tips xD

sirsquishy.8531:

And I would suggest considering overclocking that CPU to 4.5-4.6Ghz. While the Single thread on the FX is slower then Intel, CPUs seem to do better on this game at 4.6Ghz~.

second I have a question about overclocking. I know how to do it, I’ve done my research. However I cannot decided weather my current cooling setup is sufficient to support it.

I have a Noctua NH-D14 sitting on my CPU and 7 120 mm fans in total. (2 intake on front and sides 2 exhaust on the top and 1 in back) Out of the box I have never seen my CPU go over 37 degrees while stressed.

I was told go liquid cooling if i plan on overclocking. I’m just mad nervous about leaks and what not. Let me know what you think I am in the process of tweaking all of my settings :P

Noctura makes good cooling devices. You don’t NEED to go liquid to overclock, but many recommend it. All cpu’s are different, some wont overclock over 4.3 even if you have some kind of liquid setup. And some will overclock to 5.0 on air. Dont shoot for 4.6 off the bat, take baby steps. try something like 4.0 and play GW2 for a few hours.
If your PC doesn’t crash, try 4.1. wash, rinse, repeat.

If you decide you want a liquid setup, closed loops are fairly safe and not much more $ than good air heatsinks.

yeah closed watercooling setups dont cost much more than good air coolers, BUT good air cooler will keep your cpu as cool as cheap closed water systems…

check this out if you want best air cooler http://phanteks.com/PH-TC14PE.html its as efective as cheap closed systems and costs less.

The NH-D14 is the king of air coolers and is fine for a good OC. The D14 can beat low end and mid tear AIO water coolers, if u do want to go water cooling then a H100 or higher is what u would have to look at to get better results than the D14.

I run a D14 myself and it can handle all the way up to 1.4v on the 3930k, which will usually result in 4.6 or 4.7ghz clock speeds and temps that peak at around 80c.
By the time im ready to replace that cooler to go for higher OC’s ill being skipping AIO water coolers and just buying the second half(have GPU half already) of my custom water loop, as i don’t feel that a AIO water cooler will give me any significant OC potential over a D14.

SolarNova.1052:

The NH-D14 is the king of air coolers and is fine for a good OC. The D14 can beat low end and mid tear AIO water coolers, if u do want to go water cooling then a H100 or higher is what u would have to look at to get better results than the D14.

I run a D14 myself and it can handle all the way up to 1.4v on the 3930k, which will usually result in 4.6 or 4.7ghz clock speeds and temps that peak at around 80c.
By the time im ready to replace that cooler to go for higher OC’s ill being skipping AIO water coolers and just buying the second half(have GPU half already) of my custom water loop, as i don’t feel that a AIO water cooler will give me any significant OC potential over a D14.

actually it WAS the king for a good time, im not saying its bad cooler in anyway, but why not take better since its going to cost you quite much to upgrade cooler anyway.

and i disagree about minimium of h100 as it loses to both phanteks and noctua air coolers, when going to higher OC.

SolarNova.1052:

The NH-D14 is the king of air coolers and is fine for a good OC. The D14 can beat low end and mid tear AIO water coolers, if u do want to go water cooling then a H100 or higher is what u would have to look at to get better results than the D14.

I run a D14 myself and it can handle all the way up to 1.4v on the 3930k, which will usually result in 4.6 or 4.7ghz clock speeds and temps that peak at around 80c.
By the time im ready to replace that cooler to go for higher OC’s ill being skipping AIO water coolers and just buying the second half(have GPU half already) of my custom water loop, as i don’t feel that a AIO water cooler will give me any significant OC potential over a D14.

I have a Corsair H55 Closed Loop. I want to upgrade that so I’m able to WaterCool my GPU as well on the same pump(I want to push it harder then Air Cooling will allow for).

What would be the best Watercooling unit to get that would let me Cool my i5-4670K and my GPU at the best possible cycle rate? (the faster the water cycles the cooler the water remains. I thought about building a custom Freon Rig as I have Refrigeration pumps and welding kits where I work that I could pull from, But that would require a separate 110v outlet and 3-4x’s the power of a 12v/24v Water pump.)

Mind you, I push my CPU to 5.1Ghz and it will settle at about 79c under Prime95, and my GPU gets pushed to 1850 (up from the default 1075) and on Air that sits at 78c-83c depending on shader settings. I want to push my GPU to 2050~Core and 2400 memory (Up from 1800). Using that OC with Air is just not possible as it pushes the GPU to 95c almost instantly and cuts power :-)

do this
set as 1 core per module
http://www.extremetech.com/computing/138394-amds-fx-8350-analyzed-does-piledriver-deliver-where-bulldozer-fell-short/2

up to 20% boost
Your cooler
And your mobo…

YOu should be able to get 1.65V 5,3GHz+ with good aircooler and at least 8+2 phase mobo

@ Sirsquishy.

Ill be honest, im new to custom loops, iv only recently learned enough to make one myself and to talk about it in general, but I could not in good conscious give advice out specific to custom loops that I can say for certain is 100% correct in all situations.

From my own research and understanding however, flow rate although it does affect performance, is not as big a factor as the performance of the Blocks and the surface area of the rads you have.
A single D5 vario pump is usually the all around suggested pump as it can handle pritty much anything u can throw at it and only needs be at setting 2/5 for a CPU +1 GPU loop.
At minimum for good OC’s I tend to find that people suggest at least 480mms of rads for a single GPU and a CPU that are at least 40mm thick (2x 240mm or 1x 360mm + 1x 120mm rads). Preferably, if u can only fit 240’s, you want at least one of them to be a 60mm or 80mm thick rad.
Fin density is also a factor, the more density the faster the fans need to be and thus more loud they are, however they perform better. The lower density rads don’t perform as well but don’t require fast fans and so things stay quiet.
That said, u can get he best of both worlds by running a 80mm thick rad in push pull with slow fan speeds, obviously performance could be better with fast fans in push pull BUT, it at least gives u the choice between Great quiet performance or Uber loud performance. However a 80mm thick rad + 50mm of fan s (25m x2) is ALOT of space to find.
Speaking of fans, Static Pressure is much more important than AirFlow rate… ur pushing/sucking air through rads, so u need higher pressure.

A few other small pointers; make sure to get piping designed for PC water cooling, all piping is not the same, a lot of genera purpose rubber/plastic piping can contain chemicals within the material itself that can leach out of the plastic and cause contamination of the water.
Also, if u have dyed water, u will have to flush the system every 6 months or so as ‘goop’ can build up in the system caused by some dyes. There is some discussion as to whether this is caused by the dye or just a biological build up due to lack of biocide/kill coil that happens to get dyed by the water. I just decided to buy opaque coloured tubing and use simple clear distilled water + biocide, my reservoir happens to have a LED hole connected to an internal frosted tube going through the centre than I can use to make the water glow the colour I want. (XSPC Photon)

GPU water blocks: make sure it has good VRM cooling as well, some cheaper/worse designed blocks sometimes neglect them.

Try not to mix metals, mixing metals will eventually lead to water contamination and corrosion due to each metal reacting to another. Stick with Copper alone or Copper + Nickel.

Erm ..cant think of anything else atm.
As I said at the start, don’t take my word as being 100% correct, im by no means experienced enough with custom loops for that yet :P

EDIT: if u don’t want to go full custom, u can buy universal GPU closed loop coolers, but they don’t cool the VRM’s and are infact hybrid units with a fan + little Heatsinks for the VRM and RAM that need permanently gluing + a universal water block for the GPU itself. They are better than air coolers but not as good as full custom ..same as AIO cpu coolers basically.