New CPU for WvW. What now?

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Posted by: Crovax.7854

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Hi there, today i got a new i7-3770k and immediatly tried it out in wvw.

The framerate ranges from ~120 on max settings when not many people are around
to mid 20’s in a full on zerg v zerg.

Basically i have three questions:

1. What are the most demanding graphics settings so i can try to turn them down
to increase my zvz experience?

2. Does the BIOS menu i can enter when my pc is booting
depend on my cpu or my motherboard? Maybe if i knew this somebody
here could help me with…

3. Currently my cpu is overclocked to 4.1ghz (up from 3.5 with 3.9 on turbo).
I know my cooling system is good enough to handle even more and my power supply
is also capable of handling more. I’d love to go up to 4.3ghz
but i don’t know what i have to alter in my bios menu to supply my fans (if that’s even needed) and my cpu with more power and how much i need exactly
since i’m assuming too low will result in very bad performance and too much
will damage the components.

Thanks in advance!

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

Avelos.6798

20 fps is about as good as you’ll get in zvz.

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Posted by: Crovax.7854

Crovax.7854

20 fps is about as good as you’ll get in zvz.

As i said; max settings and not optimally overclocked.
I’m sure i can get more, hence the question regarding demanding settings
and oc potential.

No arguing that the game is horribly optimized
and the engine is a bad joke but still…

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Posted by: ikereid.4637

ikereid.4637

20 fps is about as good as you’ll get in zvz.

As i said; max settings and not optimally overclocked.
I’m sure i can get more, hence the question regarding demanding settings
and oc potential.

No arguing that the game is horribly optimized
and the engine is a bad joke but still…

You dont understand. Even with the top of the line hardware. 20FPS is the max you can expect to get in a full on zerg in WvW (even worse near heavily populated areas with environmental effects/buildings).

thats how badly this game is coded.

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Posted by: Maze.3825

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Just change Ratio to manual and then 43 or 45 for 4.5ghz then scroll down to CPU voltage and change to manual then enter in 1.2volts, then find Load Line Calibration and set that to VERY HIGH, and hit F10 and save changes and reboot.
Load Windows. Check Temps.
Note:
Every chip is different; your particular chip is usually good until 4.5ghz. Some are lucky. I need around 1.385 volts for mine at 4.5 which causes too much heat at full load with NH-D14 cooler

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Posted by: Avelos.6798

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20 fps is about as good as you’ll get in zvz.

As i said; max settings and not optimally overclocked.
I’m sure i can get more, hence the question regarding demanding settings
and oc potential.

No arguing that the game is horribly optimized
and the engine is a bad joke but still…

Then play on the lowest settings because you’re not going to get higher than that. Maybe… 1 or 2 frames higher at best in a giant zerg.

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Posted by: Espionage.3685

Espionage.3685

… Why doesn’t anyone just answer his questions and let him see for himself?

Hi there, today i got a new i7-3770k and immediatly tried it out in wvw.

The framerate ranges from ~120 on max settings when not many people are around
to mid 20’s in a full on zerg v zerg.

Basically i have three questions:

1. What are the most demanding graphics settings so i can try to turn them down
to increase my zvz experience?

2. Does the BIOS menu i can enter when my pc is booting
depend on my cpu or my motherboard? Maybe if i knew this somebody
here could help me with…

3. Currently my cpu is overclocked to 4.1ghz (up from 3.5 with 3.9 on turbo).
I know my cooling system is good enough to handle even more and my power supply
is also capable of handling more. I’d love to go up to 4.3ghz
but i don’t know what i have to alter in my bios menu to supply my fans (if that’s even needed) and my cpu with more power and how much i need exactly
since i’m assuming too low will result in very bad performance and too much
will damage the components.

Thanks in advance!

1. Reflections and Shadows for CPU; Sampling and Texture Filtering for GPU

2. Depends on motherboard. My BIOSTAR A880G+ motherboard for example has a totally different UI than my ASRock 970 Extreme3 motherboard, even though I use the same processor in both.

3. You’d probably want to find documentation on max recommended voltage for the processor. AMD has a page for my processor that mentions a recommended max voltage, but I’ve gone above it “very” slightly without issue.

No idea on fan controls, but generally speaking, the motherboard should “just know” when to up the fan speed if needed. You’ll want to keep an eye on temps yourself though just in-case it doesn’t, or have an automatic thermal safety limit set in BIOS somewhere.

Too-low of voltage will result in the computer not starting up at all in worse-case. Other times, it might downclock itself automatically, or just cause a BSoD due to instability.

Too-high of voltage will result in immediate hardware failure in worse-case. Other times it might lead to too-high of temps and an automatic shutdown (depends on motherboard safety measures), or BSoD if the processor becomes unstable with higher voltage.

Whatever you do though, I recommend doing it all manually, from BIOS itself. Automatic overclocking stuff (in BIOS or Windows) is not ideal.

Make sure to test stability also when setting clock speeds (your computer may startup fine at a set frequency, but may be unstable at full processor load). Something that stresses the processor is a fine test for this; a common choice is prime95.

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Posted by: SolarNova.1052

SolarNova.1052

Check Overclock.net and Overclock3d.net for overclocking guides.

if ur gunna overclock, do it properly, dont use auto voltage control becouse u will be pumping out to much voltage in most casses.

Culling settings can help alot in WvW, BUT they can also make thigns look crap.
Set Character Limit to Highest so u can see every1 in WvW, then set the texture LImit to medium or Low dependingo n the size of the zergs.
Set reflection to terrain and sky and shadows to high (not highest) that should help also.

I personaly run max on everything(including SuperSampling + Downsampled resolution 3200×1800) except Reflections (terrain and Sky) becouse Anet still havnt fixed the way reflections are rendered underground, and thus it causses a MASSIVE performnce hit on the GPU.
And culling i have set as i sugested above.

In WvW i rarely see 20 FPS, but it can happen in EB zergs, lowest is usualy around 25, the average sized zerg vs zerg nets me around 35 fps, and smaller zergs i can be 45+.

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