Possible fps issues with ssd's

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Posted by: Nashiem.8932

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The other day when anet had there patch I noticed som fps issues, and by issues I mean at times it would drop to 53 or 48. I am already running a heavily overclocked cpu and a great gpu, 2 actually. My 3930k was clocked at 4.5 and my gtx 690 was at stock.

Because I was having these hicups and decided to spend a better part of the weekend just doing some over clocking and find out how high I could go, and more important if it would help. I started on the cpu which was not hard at 4.7 it failed my stress test, so i left it runing at 4.6 with a core voltage at 1.44. then went to the gpu after hours of playing around I finally came to the conclusion that the evga gtx 690 stock speeds performed the most consistent results.

I then erased my ssd and reinstalled everything fresh. I started playing gw2 and it ran perfect no issues at all. No fps drops except right at launch in a new area. So i thought maybe the architecture in ssds and how garbage collection works, when anet does a huge update it may fragment the drive enough to cause issues. I have 0 cpu bottleneck as the attachment shows, so the fps issues must have come from the ssd. Even though I am transferring at over 500mb/s read and write, maybe there is a problem there.

If anyone has any ideas please let me know, maybe using a hdd and defrag a few times a month might do it?

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Posted by: Squall Leonhart.2075

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do you have the latest Intel IRSTe drivers installed?

SSD’s do not have any notion of the term fragmentation, all writes to ssd nand is to random banks and not continuous/sequential in order to maintain a consistent amount of wear across the entire drive.

A drive that is failing to Trim on the other hand, might exhibit these behaviors, you need the IRSTe driver and the system set to AHCI for trim to be enabled on SATA6 devices.

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Posted by: SolarNova.1052

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Its unlikely to be ur SSD, unless its a old generation 1 SSD, they had high failure rates.

Not connected ot GW2 but ..Your Vcore on ur CPU seems high to me.. I run a 4.6ghz on the same CPU and have an offset OC with all features still enabled and peak at 1.36v. Full prime95 stable.

IMO u shouldn’t have went wiht a 690 ..i woulda went 2x 680’s ..but never mind ..if ur seeing FPS drops that u dont like, only thing i can sugest is lowing ingame settings.

GW2 SuperSampling is very ineficent ..as is the Reflections on ‘All’, the both requir insane amounts of power to render ..most people even with high end rigs sit on native and Relection on terrian And Sky. You would probably be ok with supersampling ..just change Reflection to ‘terain and Sky’. GW2 renders reflectiosn even if u dont see them ..hence the huge performance hit.

Set GW2.exe priorty to high in the task manager it will give u a few FPS.

Oh and turn of core parking ..it might help. I tried and i honestly cant say i see a difference. .but other people have said it helps.

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Posted by: Nashiem.8932

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Its unlikely to be ur SSD, unless its a old generation 1 SSD, they had high failure rates.

Not connected ot GW2 but ..Your Vcore on ur CPU seems high to me.. I run a 4.6ghz on the same CPU and have an offset OC with all features still enabled and peak at 1.36v. Full prime95 stable.

IMO u shouldn’t have went wiht a 690 ..i woulda went 2x 680’s ..but never mind ..if ur seeing FPS drops that u dont like, only thing i can sugest is lowing ingame settings.

GW2 SuperSampling is very ineficent ..as is the Reflections on ‘All’, the both requir insane amounts of power to render ..most people even with high end rigs sit on native and Relection on terrian And Sky. You would probably be ok with supersampling ..just change Reflection to ‘terain and Sky’. GW2 renders reflectiosn even if u dont see them ..hence the huge performance hit.

Set GW2.exe priorty to high in the task manager it will give u a few FPS.

Oh and turn of core parking ..it might help. I tried and i honestly cant say i see a difference. .but other people have said it helps.

The fps issues I see are not a big problem, but the things you suggested I did try. I set gw2 on priority, and I did unpark the cpu cores, byt I did not see a diffrence in either of those. As far as the ocing of the cpu if you dont mind how did you oc it. I have a rampage 4 extreme, and basiclly just set the oc to xmp, to get my memory to 2133 and then set each individual core to 46, or 4.6 ghz.

I have always overclocked my comps, but most of the options in bios dont have a good discription. I did watch some videos and read some articles, but they say not to offset the cpu. If you dont mind maybe you could offer some good advice.

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Posted by: SolarNova.1052

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Ah i see. yes auto OC’s always set Vcore higher than u need.

To get ur Vcore down (and thus ur Temperatures also) u need to tweek a load of settings manualy and tbh it was a PITA for me to get mine stable with low Vcore at 4.6ghz, i had to get help from some peeps at Overclock.net forums. I sugets u do the same, they have some guides there that explain the BIOS options.

Bassicaly the main things u need to tweek is LLC (load line calibration) Vcore (set it to Offset then + or – 0.010 at a time till it becomes stable) the idea is to set LLC amount and Offset amount just right so that the Vcore it allows is as low as possible..its harder to tweek than a ‘set’ Vcore. .but it does allow ur CPU to save power by lowering Vcore to very low amounts (like 0.872v in my case) when it downclocks itself when its idling…at a set Vcore it wont do that and u will be constantly running at a high voltage…there are other options to tweek but the guides would better explain them than i can of the top of my head.

Do remember after 1600mhz on RAM the benfits are next to nothing BUT lowering ur CAS helps more. I see alot of 2133mhz RAM at CL 11 or 10., if ur stock settings are say 1866mhz CL10 .. then i sugets just trying to get it to run at 1866mhz CL9 or lower. I personaly dont worry about RAM tbh i bought some Stock 1866mhz CL9 RAM and left it at that.

For Gw2 though do try changing those ingame settings i mentioned, if u havnt already.

3930k 4.6ghz | NH-D14 Cooler | P9x79 Pro MB | 16gb 1866mhz G.Skill | 128gb SSD + 2×500gb HDD
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Posted by: Nashiem.8932

Nashiem.8932

Ah i see. yes auto OC’s always set Vcore higher than u need.

To get ur Vcore down (and thus ur Temperatures also) u need to tweek a load of settings manualy and tbh it was a PITA for me to get mine stable with low Vcore at 4.6ghz, i had to get help from some peeps at Overclock.net forums. I sugets u do the same, they have some guides there that explain the BIOS options.

Bassicaly the main things u need to tweek is LLC (load line calibration) Vcore (set it to Offset then + or – 0.010 at a time till it becomes stable) the idea is to set LLC amount and Offset amount just right so that the Vcore it allows is as low as possible..its harder to tweek than a ‘set’ Vcore. .but it does allow ur CPU to save power by lowering Vcore to very low amounts (like 0.872v in my case) when it downclocks itself when its idling…at a set Vcore it wont do that and u will be constantly running at a high voltage…there are other options to tweek but the guides would better explain them than i can of the top of my head.

Do remember after 1600mhz on RAM the benfits are next to nothing BUT lowering ur CAS helps more. I see alot of 2133mhz RAM at CL 11 or 10., if ur stock settings are say 1866mhz CL10 .. then i sugets just trying to get it to run at 1866mhz CL9 or lower. I personaly dont worry about RAM tbh i bought some Stock 1866mhz CL9 RAM and left it at that.

For Gw2 though do try changing those ingame settings i mentioned, if u havnt already.

thanks I will check out all that you said, my ram is actually 2133 at 9-11-10-30. so it is running pretty fast

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Posted by: DJRiful.3749

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This might help, http://imgur.com/a/AIYTs

I’m only between 1.375v and 1.400v @ 4.7Ghz

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