Guild Wars 2

I’ve only recently tried playing this game again after the first couple months of release I have never gotten a character past level 5 mostly just for one reason. The game will not EVER play past 10-15 FPS for me regardless of settings. You may think my computer specs are bad well they arnt.

OS : Window’s 8 Pro 64 Bit
CPU : AMD FX-4170 4.20GHz
Ram : 16 Gig’s DDR3 1333Mhz
Video Card : XFX Radeon HD 7870 Black Edition 2GB DDR5 / Latest Drivers

I clearly should be getting way more than 10-15 FPS in this game.

The weird thing is back when the game first came out from what I remember I was on…

OS : Windows 7 64bit
Video Card: XFX 6870 Black Edition 1GB
Ram : 8 Gigs ddr3
CPU: AMD Athlon™ II X2 255 Processor (2 CPUs), ~3.1GHz
And I was still getting the exact same 10-15 FPS.

Should I just give up on ever really playing this game? Cause clearly even after a year and with massive change in hardware since than and no change the heck am I supposed to do? Just sit and watch a slideshow happen just by moving the mouse?

Any suggestions would be nice at this point on how to get more stable FPS out of this game.

Sorry… FX-4170 is hardly upgrade over the old Phenom II series CPU. FX-4170 is 2 cores total 4 modules, IPC is terrible. Your CPU is easily beat by Core i3 CPU from Intel.

Hence which is why you don’t see performance improvement.

MinkyMike.8320:

I’ve only recently tried playing this game again after the first couple months of release I have never gotten a character past level 5 mostly just for one reason. The game will not EVER play past 10-15 FPS for me regardless of settings. You may think my computer specs are bad well they arnt.

OS : Window’s 8 Pro 64 Bit
CPU : AMD FX-4170 4.20GHz
Ram : 16 Gig’s DDR3 1333Mhz
Video Card : XFX Radeon HD 7870 Black Edition 2GB DDR5 / Latest Drivers

I clearly should be getting way more than 10-15 FPS in this game.

The weird thing is back when the game first came out from what I remember I was on…

OS : Windows 7 64bit
Video Card: XFX 6870 Black Edition 1GB
Ram : 8 Gigs ddr3
CPU: AMD 3.2 2 core
And I was still getting the exact same 10-15 FPS.

Should I just give up on ever really playing this game? Cause clearly even after a year and with massive change in hardware since than and no change the heck am I supposed to do? Just sit and watch a slideshow happen just by moving the mouse?

Any suggestions would be nice at this point on how to get more stable FPS out of this game.

I have weaker hardware than you (Phenom II X3 720 unlocked to quad-core @ 3.3Ghz), Radeon HD 7850 (switching between driving a single 1600×900 screen or 3 of them for a 5040×900 resolution, 8GB DDR3 1333Mhz RAM, Windows 8.1 RTM) and I get more FPS than you, so something is clearly up…

When I use Eyefinity, I get around 20-40 FPS, “most” of the time (there’s times where it drops, but never lower than 10 FPS). With a single screen, I usually get around 30-60 FPS. This is during PvE though. Group events and WvW however drop my FPS around 10 maybe even lower depending on how many people are present. This is all with moderately highest settings (Low Shadows, No Reflections, No Effect LOD, No AA, everything else Highest). GW2 runs at way higher framerate if I set it to Best Performance though.

Here’s what I do for tweaks:

- Disabled all CPU power saving tech (Cool n Quiet, Core Parking, etc.)
- Disabled Dynamic Ticks (Windows 8+ only)
- Use TSC timings (as opposed to HPET; doesn’t make a real difference though)
- OC/OV/Unlock Hardware (GPU at 1000Mhz/1250Mhz and stock voltage, doesn’t make any real difference; CPU at 3.3GHz with max recommended voltage from AMD and an extra core; the extra core helps a good bit)
- Run with minimum applications (I have 2 chat clients open most of the time; no Windows Defender, no Antivirus, etc; I’m smart enough to manage and protect my own machine :p)

Graphics drivers hardly make a difference in GW2’s performance for me, but I can confirm GW2 ran well with 13.8 Beta 2, and OpenGL 4.3 Beta Drivers (and some other random drivers prior to that).

As for suggestions:

- Try stress-testing your machine. I would go for a PSU-stress, and just stress both the CPU and GPU at the same time (OCCT can do both; could also use prime95 + Kombuster or even Furmark)
- Make sure proper voltage and clock settings are set (verify the RAM is running at rated voltage at least, etc.)
- Disable CPU power saving stuff (Core Parking and Cool n Quiet are two big ones)
- Check temperatures and clock speeds of all components (use MSI Afterburner + RivaTuner to show GPU stats in-game via overlay, and even throw in HWInfo32 or 64 and hook it to RivaTuner to also show in CPU stats and other temperatures in-game; or just window GW2 and use HWMonitor/GPU-Z/CPU-Z or something)

More than likely it’s your settings. Have you read the stickied threads about AMD?

DJRiful.3749:

Sorry… FX-4170 is hardly upgrade over the old Phenom II series CPU. FX-4170 is 2 cores total 4 modules, IPC is terrible. Your CPU is easily beat by Core i3 CPU from Intel.

Hence which is why you don’t see performance improvement.

Regardless of whatever you say. The CPU I have now was a major upgrade compared to my old CPU. And this is the only game that seems to fail in the FPS department with a computer that has more than enough power to play it and plays many other games completely fine so my CPU is not the issue.

MinkyMike.8320:

DJRiful.3749:

Sorry… FX-4170 is hardly upgrade over the old Phenom II series CPU. FX-4170 is 2 cores total 4 modules, IPC is terrible. Your CPU is easily beat by Core i3 CPU from Intel.

Hence which is why you don’t see performance improvement.

Regardless of whatever you say. The CPU I have now was a major upgrade compared to my old CPU. And this is the only game that seems to fail in the FPS department with a computer that has more than enough power to play it and plays many other games completely fine so my CPU is not the issue.

Other games you will run fantastic, only GW2 will have FPS issue for you and for many of us. If you want know how I run GW2… I get 40-50FPS in LA with that system and in Zerg about low 15-30fps on mid gfx.

I know gfx settings and resolutions contributes some differences but let’s put it this way, I can run The Witcher 2 with ubersampling on still maintain ~60FPS. GW2 I can’t … and its a DX9 engine.

Not much I could do to get better FPS without overclocking near 5.0 Ghz on a beast CPU in the market today.

So the baseline of ~40FPS gameplay is to play at 1080p with mid-high setting on a FX-6000 series (OC) or Core i5 2nd gen up CPU (OC).

I’m not talking about idle in a map without anyone around.

It’s a tough call that GW2 game really requires high end cpu to handle zergfest.

MinkyMike.8320:

Graphics drivers hardly make a difference in GW2’s performance for me, but I can confirm GW2 ran well with 13.8 Beta 2, and OpenGL 4.3 Beta Drivers (and some other random drivers prior to that).

OpenGL? I really hope you’er not trying to explain GW2 is OpenGL to him.

give us please your dxdiag log file

(To find your DxDiag, Start>Run and type ‘DxDiag’ without the quotation marks and ‘Save all Information’ )

Crawford.4135:

MinkyMike.8320:

Graphics drivers hardly make a difference in GW2’s performance for me, but I can confirm GW2 ran well with 13.8 Beta 2, and OpenGL 4.3 Beta Drivers (and some other random drivers prior to that).

OpenGL? I really hope you’er not trying to explain GW2 is OpenGL to him.

“OpenGL 4.3 Beta Drivers” – http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystOpenGL43BetaDriver.aspx

I in no way said GW2 had anything to do with OpenGL lol, the driver I mentioned though has other fixes that aren’t OpenGL-specific, regardless of the name.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Optimization

Flatley.1620:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Optimization

No

DJRiful.3749:

Sorry… FX-4170 is hardly upgrade over the old Phenom II series CPU. FX-4170 is 2 cores total 4 modules, IPC is terrible. Your CPU is easily beat by Core i3 CPU from Intel.

Hence which is why you don’t see performance improvement.

2 module/4 core.

@MinkyMike – It’s all about adjusting your expectations with this game.

Current talk being tossed about is disabling core parking to help performance. After than it’s adjusting down the graphic settings that are very CPU dependent which is reflections, shadows and player culling.

By latest drivers do you mean latest beta 13.8 or latest WHQL 13.4? There were some reports of problems with 13.8 on some cards.

The FX-4170 should perform better than the Athlon II 255 simply because it is a quad core.

Behellagh.1468:

DJRiful.3749:

Sorry… FX-4170 is hardly upgrade over the old Phenom II series CPU. FX-4170 is 2 cores total 4 modules, IPC is terrible. Your CPU is easily beat by Core i3 CPU from Intel.

Hence which is why you don’t see performance improvement.

2 module/4 core.

@MinkyMike – It’s all about adjusting your expectations with this game.

Current talk being tossed about is disabling core parking to help performance. After than it’s adjusting down the graphic settings that are very CPU dependent which is reflections, shadows and player culling.

By latest drivers do you mean latest beta 13.8 or latest WHQL 13.4? There were some reports of problems with 13.8 on some cards.

The FX-4170 should perform better than the Athlon II 255 simply because it is a quad core.

I’m using the 13.4 drivers. I dont do beta drivers have had to many issues with them in the past. I also tried what people suggested and disabled cpu parking. Even on the lowest settings I still get 10-15 FPS. Meh guess I will try playing the game again in another year and see if anythings changed.

MinkyMike.8320:

Behellagh.1468:

DJRiful.3749:

Sorry… FX-4170 is hardly upgrade over the old Phenom II series CPU. FX-4170 is 2 cores total 4 modules, IPC is terrible. Your CPU is easily beat by Core i3 CPU from Intel.

Hence which is why you don’t see performance improvement.

2 module/4 core.

@MinkyMike – It’s all about adjusting your expectations with this game.

Current talk being tossed about is disabling core parking to help performance. After than it’s adjusting down the graphic settings that are very CPU dependent which is reflections, shadows and player culling.

By latest drivers do you mean latest beta 13.8 or latest WHQL 13.4? There were some reports of problems with 13.8 on some cards.

The FX-4170 should perform better than the Athlon II 255 simply because it is a quad core.

I’m using the 13.4 drivers. I dont do beta drivers have had to many issues with them in the past. I also tried what people suggested and disabled cpu parking. Even on the lowest settings I still get 10-15 FPS. Meh guess I will try playing the game again in another year and see if anythings changed.

i asked for your dxdiag file . can you give it us to help you ?

if you dont give us , then nobody can help you

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MinkyMike.8320:

Flatley.1620:

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/tech/Optimization

No

Yes.

You are not the only one experiencing bad FPS despite having a good rig. The link provided gives reading material as to what can be done to try and alleviate this – whether it works for your not is… well, mileage will vary.