Guild Wars 2

Hey guys,

I bought a new computer today, still I want to upgrade my old computer. Would be a waste to throww it away. Could you tell me what choice would be the best for me? I was thinking either of the following two:

Option 1
AMD FX-8150 (Zambezi)
4x 2048 KB Level 2
8192 KB Level 3
3600 MHz
HyperTransport bus 5200 MT/s

Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0
Max 32 GB RAM
PCIe x2 (Crossfire supported)
AMD 970 chipset

Corsair 16 GB DDR3-1600 Quad-Kit
16384 MB
CAS-latentie: 7

Option 2
Asus GTX680-DC2O-2GD5
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Chip
2048 MB GDDR5
Clock 1019 MHz
Memory 6008 MHz

My current system:
Windows 7 Professional
AMD Phenom II X4 945, 2935 MHz, 6MB Cache
ATI Radeon HD 6870 Videocard
8GB GeIL DDR2-800
Gigabyte MA74GM Series mainboard
2x 1TB WD S-ATA 2 HDD

so… what would you guys suggest to do? I want to have more FPS in GW2 (and other games of course) but most important NO lag in WvW in GW2 lol. I also use development applications (multiple at the same time) for writing software and websites (Microsoft Visual studio 2010, Qt, Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator et cetera).

So hopefully some of you can tell me which of the two options you would go for, and how much better everything would run with the new option

Best regards

There’d be little point getting a new GPU when your system is handicapped by DDR2 RAM.

That being said, there’s also little point “upgrading” to an FX processor. It likely won’t get you any better gaming performance than the one you’re currently using.

Intel i5 and a decent ASRocks motherboard would probably be your best bet. Don’t waste money on 16GB of Ram unless you know you’re going to use it.

Edit: I just read your post again, I still suggest spending the money to upgrade an Intel route for the cost of either of those options. A 680 would be bottlenecked by the PhII 945. Is there a particular program or task that would require a octa-core?

I agree with ZaxanRazor. You are better off upgrading your CPU the Intel route if you want to increase performance significantly. I just built my wife a system that is using an i3-3225 (Ivy Bridge) and a 6870 and she is getting 40-60 FPS with medium-high settings. An i5 with a 6870 should perform even better. I’d suggest an i5- 3470, 3570 or 3570K because they are a new technology, lower wattage than anything AMD is offering and they should still perform well over the next few years.

The cost of that Asus GTX680-DC2O-2GD5 could buy you an i5-3570K, new MoBo and 8GB of DDR3 with $100-$150 left over. Newegg has a combo offer right now for a
GIGABYTE GA-Z77X-D3H and Intel Core i5-3550 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo) for only $309 before a $15 MIR. 8GB of good memory will only cost you about $35-$50. So you’re looking at around $350-$360.

I’m an AMD user myself. I’m running a Phenom II X6 1035T with a 2GB Radeon 6950. I know my CPU is holding me back slightly, so it isn’t bias. I built this system earlier this year and should have listened to all the posts suggesting the i5-2500K route. AMD is cheaper but you pay that cost in decreased performance in games.

oke, I will get an i7 I think then. But in any case, it is NOT my GPU thats holding me back right?

GroundZero.8037:

Hey guys,

I bought a new computer today, still I want to upgrade my old computer. Would be a waste to throww it away. Could you tell me what choice would be the best for me? I was thinking either of the following two:

Option 1
AMD FX-8150 (Zambezi)
4x 2048 KB Level 2
8192 KB Level 3
3600 MHz
HyperTransport bus 5200 MT/s

Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0
Max 32 GB RAM
PCIe x2 (Crossfire supported)
AMD 970 chipset

Corsair 16 GB DDR3-1600 Quad-Kit
16384 MB
CAS-latentie: 7

Option 2
Asus GTX680-DC2O-2GD5
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Chip
2048 MB GDDR5
Clock 1019 MHz
Memory 6008 MHz

My current system:
Windows 7 Professional
AMD Phenom II X4 945, 2935 MHz, 6MB Cache
ATI Radeon HD 6870 Videocard
8GB GeIL DDR2-800
Gigabyte MA74GM Series mainboard
2x 1TB WD S-ATA 2 HDD

so… what would you guys suggest to do? I want to have more FPS in GW2 (and other games of course) but most important NO lag in WvW in GW2 lol. I also use development applications (multiple at the same time) for writing software and websites (Microsoft Visual studio 2010, Qt, Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Illustrator et cetera).

So hopefully some of you can tell me which of the two options you would go for, and how much better everything would run with the new option

Best regards

I still have FPS issues in WvW but not in other worlds. Just so you know. You cannot expect to stay 60FPS+ in WvW even with my system can blows out every other games in the world.

Never knew AMD went that crappy… eventhough i3/i4/i7 is Hexa core at most, and AMD has octa-core (with 8MB Cache)…

Always tought AMD was a beast when it comes to “gaming” lol

Anyways… what about this?:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/314382-10-beats-pants-980x

Aint the 200 euro AMD as good as an 550 euro i7 Intel?…

GroundZero.8037:

Never knew AMD went that crappy… eventhough i3/i4/i7 is Hexa core at most, and AMD has octa-core (with 8MB Cache)…

Always tought AMD was a beast when it comes to “gaming” lol

Anyways… what about this?:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/314382-10-beats-pants-980x

Aint the 200 euro AMD as good as an 550 euro i7 Intel?…

I didn’t catch that typo, thanks for the correction.

That benchmark does not negate all the other benchmarks that still show Intel surpassing the entire FX line. The only time the FX-8150 beats them is usually when it is either OC’ed or during synthetic benchmarks or encoding.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-7-hotfix-bulldozer-performance,3119-4.html

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/the-bulldozer-review-amd-fx8150-tested/8

http://www.techspot.com/review/452-amd-bulldozer-fx-cpus/page10.html

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/4350/amd_fx_8150_bulldozer_gaming_performance_analysis/index12.html

The tweaktown benchmark is one of the few that show that it competes well when OC’ed with an OCe’d 2700k

I’m not saying the FX-8150 is a bad CPU, I’m saying that you could spend his money on better options.

GroundZero.8037:

oke, I will get an i7 I think then. But in any case, it is NOT my GPU thats holding me back right?

You could get a i5 and still get the same performance while gaming and save your self some money. Id go with a 3570 or 3570k, the only difference is the k overclocks really well. I recently upgraded my pc to a i5 3570k(overclocked to 4.5ghz) and a gtx680. It runs great. Your gpu will be fine for playing at 1920x 1080 resolution with highish settings on most games.

Oke thanks for the information. I was looking at this:

AMD FX-8150
Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
Asus GTX680-DC2O-2GD5

But since (most people) say its better to get an Intel, I am seriously thinking about dropping the tought about getting an AMD and going to Intel

GroundZero.8037:

Oke thanks for the information. I was looking at this:

AMD FX-8150
Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0
Corsair 8 GB DDR3-1600 Kit
Asus GTX680-DC2O-2GD5

But since (most people) say its better to get an Intel, I am seriously thinking about dropping the tought about getting an AMD and going to Intel

You should, im not sure abt this but i believe a intel i5 2500k or a 3570k is around the same price as the AMD FX-8150? But if u can and its in your budget definitely go for a i5. It performs much better and for longevity its the best.

Guild Wars 2 CPU benchmark:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/guild-wars-2-performance-benchmark,3268-7.html

very nice! so… which i5 and i7 would be the best? since there are so many i5 and i7
and still… an i3 beats the newest octa-cores ?

anyways especially the i7 which one are good?

3820
3930K
3960X

there are so many haha

GroundZero.8037:

very nice! so… which i5 and i7 would be the best? since there are so many i5 and i7
and still… an i3 beats the newest octa-cores ?

anyways especially the i7 which one are good?

3820
3930K
3960X

there are so many haha

Intel Core i5 3570K is your best bet. Cheap/highly overclockable & trashes any amd cpu in gaming.

As stated by many others, DO NOT get another amd cpu. You’ll definitely regret it if you do.

Oke checked it @ my local store…

Intel® Core™ i5-3570K CPU, codename “Ivy Bridge”
price €217
4x 256 KB Level 2
6144 KB Level 3 cache
3400 MHz
5000 MT/s
GMA HD 4000 internal Graphical Chip

Is that the one you mean?… cause 217 euro… thats… so cheap ^^

But well, if thats the one… then what GPU would you recommend?
I can spend 1000 in totall. But I need memory and a motherboard as well.
I would love 8GB of DDR3-1600 though

P.S. I would buy the stuff at alternate.nl (its in dutch though) but they have most of the stuff thats available

Yes that’s the one. With that budget I’d be looking at the GTX660Ti, or even a 670.

well, i can go up to 1000 euro’s in total but would need memory + mainboard also so in total CPU + Mainboard + ram + GPU… what would be suggested then? 8GB DDR3 would be enough for now but in the future i want 16GB since I work with some heavy development programs for software, audio & recording, webdesign, et cetera. Sometimes I run 6 – 7 programs, 3D software or heavy rendering software so thats why I would like to upgrade to 16GB Ram in the future.

So aprocimately… RAM 100 euro’s, CPU 250 euro’s, mainboard 150 euro’s, then a GPU for 300-500 euro’s, but which one? still GTX660Ti and then overclock the CPU and GPU a little?

GroundZero.8037:

well, i can go up to 1000 euro’s in total but would need memory + mainboard also so in total CPU + Mainboard + ram + GPU… what would be suggested then? 8GB DDR3 would be enough for now but in the future i want 16GB since I work with some heavy development programs for software, audio & recording, webdesign, et cetera. Sometimes I run 6 – 7 programs, 3D software or heavy rendering software so thats why I would like to upgrade to 16GB Ram in the future.

So aprocimately… RAM 100 euro’s, CPU 250 euro’s, mainboard 150 euro’s, then a GPU for 300-500 euro’s, but which one? still GTX660Ti and then overclock the CPU and GPU a little?

If that pc you’re building is for work and play I suggest skip i5 and go i7 specially if you’re into heavy dev programs. 16GB/32GB would benefit your work well.

GroundZero.8037:

So aprocimately… RAM 100 euro’s, CPU 250 euro’s, mainboard 150 euro’s, then a GPU for 300-500 euro’s, but which one? still GTX660Ti and then overclock the CPU and GPU a little?

Well, I can highly recommend the MSI GTX660Ti’s power edition (only because I’ve got 2 of them LOL). When overclocked, they come very close to a stock 680.

Alpha Dragon.4576:

GroundZero.8037:

well, i can go up to 1000 euro’s in total but would need memory + mainboard also so in total CPU + Mainboard + ram + GPU… what would be suggested then? 8GB DDR3 would be enough for now but in the future i want 16GB since I work with some heavy development programs for software, audio & recording, webdesign, et cetera. Sometimes I run 6 – 7 programs, 3D software or heavy rendering software so thats why I would like to upgrade to 16GB Ram in the future.

So aprocimately… RAM 100 euro’s, CPU 250 euro’s, mainboard 150 euro’s, then a GPU for 300-500 euro’s, but which one? still GTX660Ti and then overclock the CPU and GPU a little?

If that pc you’re building is for work and play I suggest skip i5 and go i7 specially if you’re into heavy dev programs. 16GB/32GB would benefit your work well.

Oke, but what i7 processor is the best one? since the i5 series have a “best type” also which is supposibly the Intel Core i5 3570K?

The “K” series are unlocked for overclocking. Intel sells the base chip and an unlocked or “K” version for a little more. The Core i7-3770/K has the best performance to price ratio. They cost about the same as the last gen i7s.

Yep agreed with Yorgie B.