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Posted by: Aoshi.4785

Aoshi.4785

Just wondering if we can get some sort of an official word on whether support for Windows 8 is coming soon, or it’s on the back burner?

Some of us with WIn8 woes are considering downgrading (or upgrading, depending on what camp you are from) to Win7. If support is in the relatively near, some might avoid this drastic step altogether.

I, for one, would like to know. I really just want to enjoy the game, and so far it’s been an uphill battle. Not bashing Anet, love the game and the strides you’ve made, but there are still those of us who are left “wondering” when (if at all) a fix will come. The lag/latency issues are crippling, and it’s extremely hard to play, if not downright unplayable altogether. Even with rigs that supercede the minimal required specs we are still getting game-breaking issues and lag.

Any help is appreciated.

Here is what I have, for those who must know:
i7 3770 cooled by an H100
16g Dominator 16g (4×4g) DDR3 1600 ram
Z77 mobo
Scythe Kaze fan controller with max (7 plus 2 on the H100) fans
GTX 660 ti
800w PSU
256g SSD (game is on this)
38d/5u connection (consistent, the stinger is practically in my back yard)

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I apologize, I should have included the reason for why I am even considering the step above, and that is because I have heard from the people with the same issues as me go to playing on a different rig with win7 and similar devices have NO TROUBLE at all with the game. I guess that’s just how bad I’d like to play ^__^

-Cheers

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I’ve been running on Windows 8 x64 since BWE1. I have none of your problems. Upgrading drivers would solve all your issues.

i7 920, 6gb DDR3, 128gb ssd, ati radeon hd4890 (for which no official drivers exist, I just use WinDDK 1.1 and these are quite good actually). Quite the same as your set up so ….

If I can’t play Guild Wars 2 at work, I won’t work in Guild Wars 2 either.
Delayed content is eventually good. Rushed content is eternally bad. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto

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Posted by: Mook.7312

Mook.7312

Well i have 2-3 sec skill delay since i installed Win8, everything else runs like a dream apart from clunky’old GW2.
All drivers are up to date and i double checked all possible solutions.. — nothing worked --

The only possibility is that there’s something very wrong with the game itself.

All of this wouldn’t be half as frustrating if someone gave us an official word on this rather then pretending it’s not a big issue.

This leads us to believe they simply don’t know whats going on (or are unable to fix it at all)

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Posted by: arjov.8649

arjov.8649

updated 1 month ago to win 8, no issue at all.

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marnick.4305

Seriously… there are hardly any threads with Win8 issues. If anything, the general consensus being that GW2 runs just fine under Win8.

The root problem is NOT GW2, of all causes, that one can be discarded for the sole reason that the vast majority of Win8 users doesn’t have said problem.

You guys are blaming devs on problems that haven’t even been conclusively established. Please check the mouse problem thread if you really want to see an existing verified problem. Three posts doesn’t make a bug. Gather information, without information, you have no claim for a GW2 based bug.

If I can’t play Guild Wars 2 at work, I won’t work in Guild Wars 2 either.
Delayed content is eventually good. Rushed content is eternally bad. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto

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Posted by: kirito.4138

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GW2 will run on Windows 8, many people have played fine with it. However, it is not officially supported yet by Anet. Windows 8 is new so there might be driver incompatibilities with certain hardware.

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Aoshi.4785

I’ve been running on Windows 8 x64 since BWE1. I have none of your problems. Upgrading drivers would solve all your issues.

i7 920, 6gb DDR3, 128gb ssd, ati radeon hd4890 (for which no official drivers exist, I just use WinDDK 1.1 and these are quite good actually). Quite the same as your set up so ….

All my drivers are up to date, and none of my problems are solved.

Also, f many people are having the same issue, arising at the same time (around Lost Shores) with rig specs that surpass the minimum requirements and are having stable/good net connections, then yeah, I am going to assume it’s a server side issue. I’ve done my research, I have looked for help, I have taken the advice and done the work, and nothing is happening. My rig is perfect on my side, so what exactly are you saying? That because others who are running it with Win8 means that there are absolutely no reasons why everyone with 8 should be having issues? It doesn’t, and isn’t, working that way.

Not saying lack of Win8 support is the sole reason for my GW2 woes, but having addressed all the other issues with the fixes available pertaining to lag and latency, it’s pretty much the last thing to be taken into consideration.

I came here for help, not to be told that I am making things up.

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Posted by: loseridoit.2756

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I dont think Anet have to try to do much to get windows 8 support. Under the hood, windows 8 is basically the same as window 7 and vista.

The most important thing is that Windows is known for it if their backward compatibility. They are known to bend over backwards to make decade old programs work

Define lag, I never noticed a network lag on Windows 8 but I am experience a random input lag with my wireless keyboard. I suspect there are other who are having the same issues as I am

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Getting 60+ fps when you log in for about 4 minutes, then shoots down to -10, and then stutters from then. Sound clipping and distortion, slideshows, frame-freezing, lag in executing your skills, etc. Spin the camera around and it goes down to 1 at times, and is choppy as all get out. Also getting the endless loading screen at least once a night as well…

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loseridoit.2756

Getting 60+ fps when you log in for about 4 minutes, then shoots down to -10, and then stutters from then. Sound clipping and distortion, slideshows, frame-freezing, lag in executing your skills, etc. Spin the camera around and it goes down to 1 at times, and is choppy as all get out. Also getting the endless loading screen at least once a night as well…

Wow, should like the windows scheduler is doing something weird. I am not experiencing those issues that you are describing. The only issue I face is because of the AMD graphic drivers and a few crashes due to Windows 8 bugs

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Yeah, iI’ve been racking my head over it. I am just going to roll it back to 7 and be done with it, for now. I can always go back later on when things get settled in I suppose.

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Yeah, iI’ve been racking my head over it. I am just going to roll it back to 7 and be done with it, for now. I can always go back later on when things get settled in I suppose.

There is no benefit going to windows 8

Since your computer has lots of ram, then windows 8 ram optimizations should not matter.

Only people who should consider Windows 8 are people who are usings either phone,tablet, or the latest generation of AMD chips.

From the looks of it, companies are treating window 7 as the new windows XP as opposte to Microsoft distaste.

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Posted by: Aoshi.4785

Aoshi.4785

No, not sure if I made things unclear or not, but I am using Win8 Pro right now, my intent is to down(up)grade to Win7. The reason for the post was asking to see if Anet plans on supporting 8 in some official capacity anytime soon…

But in all reality, I am tired of waiting, and would really REALLY like to get my game on.

plus I miss my aero theme lol.

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Posted by: marnick.4305

marnick.4305

GW2 will run on Windows 8, many people have played fine with it. However, it is not officially supported yet by Anet. Windows 8 is new so there might be driver incompatibilities with certain hardware.

The company I do support for doesn’t support Windows 8 yet either. You know what that means when you call for support on a Windows 8 machine? You don’t get any…. But it is coming soon and same is probably true for GW2. Windows 8 is insanely popular and actually a very good operating system so no support for Win8 would be suicide. I’d guess around februari-march.

If I can’t play Guild Wars 2 at work, I won’t work in Guild Wars 2 either.
Delayed content is eventually good. Rushed content is eternally bad. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto

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Posted by: Squall Leonhart.2075

Squall Leonhart.2075

Windows 8 is insanely popular and actually a very good operating system.

no it isn’t, on both counts.

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Posted by: Aoshi.4785

Aoshi.4785

UPDATE

Windows successfully rolled back to Win 7 Pro, FPS woes COMPLETELY gone, played 2 hours, did my dailes to completion across about 5 zones, portig over, spinning the map around, with absolutely no stutter or lag once. Turned off fps limiter and was getting between 79-115fps constantly. Did wvw for a bit, and even in there I was right around 50fps. Glad to have my game back ^__^

If you are having bad lag with Win8, and had tried every fix possible like me, this might be worth a shot.

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Windows 8 is insanely popular and actually a very good operating system.

no it isn’t, on both counts.

Don’t troll. Windows 8 has lower system reqs across the board than Win7. That’s a fact.

Both corporate and consumer level people are moving to Win8 in a very fast rate which pales Win7 conversion rates. These are also facts you can find everywhere on the webz.

Third fact is that most Windows users are still on XP due to the Vista disaster. XP support is ending next year which means a huge influx to the stable and user-friendly Win8 which just happens to be a quantum leap over XP whereas Win7 was more of the same.

Add two and two together and the vast majority of consumers will be on Win8 users by summer 2013. One doesn’t need a crystal ball to know that. By that time, GW2 will definitely be supporting Win8.

If I can’t play Guild Wars 2 at work, I won’t work in Guild Wars 2 either.
Delayed content is eventually good. Rushed content is eternally bad. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto

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Posted by: Squall Leonhart.2075

Squall Leonhart.2075

Windows 8 is insanely popular and actually a very good operating system.

no it isn’t, on both counts.

Both corporate and consumer level people are moving to Win8 in a very fast rate which pales Win7 conversion rates. These are also facts you can find everywhere on the webz.

Stop getting your stats from NeoWin. You’re wrong, simple as that.

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Posted by: tsmith.7915

tsmith.7915

to the OP, I have been using windows 8 Pro x64 for about a week now and no issues with anything. If there is any difference in gaming it’s actually better performance. Win 8 is so light on my system it’s like it isnt even there lol only used 800MBs of RAM at idle

[AMD FX6300 @3.5Ghz][ASRocks 970D Mobo][8GB DDR3 G. Skill Sniper]
[XFX R9 270X O.C Edition][Thermaltake 600W PSU]
[Windows 8.1 64-Bit]

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Aoshi.4785

to the OP, I have been using windows 8 Pro x64 for about a week now and no issues with anything. If there is any difference in gaming it’s actually better performance. Win 8 is so light on my system it’s like it isnt even there lol only used 800MBs of RAM at idle

OK, that is good on you then I suppose, but that wasn’t my experience at all. Like I said, not everyone running 8 has these issues (and that doesn’t and SHOULDN’T negate the fact that there are Win 8 users who ARE), but what else can explain the drastic increase in performance from rolling back the OS, if I didn’t change anything else?

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loseridoit.2756

to the OP, I have been using windows 8 Pro x64 for about a week now and no issues with anything. If there is any difference in gaming it’s actually better performance. Win 8 is so light on my system it’s like it isnt even there lol only used 800MBs of RAM at idle

Only using 800MB ram is bad. Read this link on linux ate my ram http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
Different OS same idea. Ram is meant to be used, unused ram translate to wasted ram because ram is always consuming power. Unused ram should be used as file cache to boost performance.

Windows 8 have this new ram optimization which might actually decrease performance because it is guessing. It is like superfetch, OS should not try to be aggressive in trying to figure out user’s desktop behavior and swap out task because performance regression is costly.

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Posted by: Squall Leonhart.2075

Squall Leonhart.2075

Different OS same idea. Ram is meant to be used, unused ram translate to wasted ram because ram is always consuming power. Unused ram should be used as file cache to boost performance.

Don’t talk about stuff that you (and the site you refer to) don’t really have a clear understanding of.

Unused ram is wasted ram refers to SUPERFETCHING.

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Posted by: Espionage.3685

Espionage.3685

Windows 8 is insanely popular and actually a very good operating system.

no it isn’t, on both counts.

Both corporate and consumer level people are moving to Win8 in a very fast rate which pales Win7 conversion rates. These are also facts you can find everywhere on the webz.

Stop getting your stats from NeoWin. You’re wrong, simple as that.

Windows 8, from my personal experience, does use less memory, and is overall faster then Windows 7. I don’t care what any random person says, but what I experience on my own system is 100% fact. Will this same experience be the same for everyone else? No idea…

In any case, when I last played GW2 on W8 on my computer, it worked fine without any issue. I’m about to try it again here in a little bit though.

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Posted by: Clexzor.6351

Clexzor.6351

It runs just fine on win8 maybe even slightly better on win8 than 7 due to several factors…however your issue sounds like faulty or wrongly installed driver may it be network drivers/realtech driver I cant say for sure…check you network drivers you can also buy a network card its what I do even on new z77 boards still can have issues of dropped connections etc.

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Posted by: Aoshi.4785

Aoshi.4785

I did have an aftermarket nic on, a good one, and I made sure I had the latest drivers. There was simply nothing else I could do to fix it on my end. If you read above, I have already rolled back to Win 7 Pro and am getting phenomenal FPS and game performance.

’nuff said.

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Posted by: Teck.8491

Teck.8491

My own little story and solution to this problem.
I bought a new laptop that came in yesterday. It came with Windows 8 pre-installed so first thing I wanted to make sure was it ran some of my games fine with no problems. I wasn’t going to bother with all my steam games so I only downloaded 2 games to try out asap; League of Legends and Guild Wars 2.

Yesterday night I played a game of LoL with no problems. Everything ran perfectly fine and I was quite happy with my new purchase. Till about an hour and a halkittenhough I had not tried running GW2 yet so I decided to hop on. Everything looked great and I could move just fine with no lag/delay what so ever. I tend to use my skills to cover more distance when I’m not in battle so I went to use a skill and noticed there was a delay activating it. I then proceeded to try other skills with the same results. At this time my character’s movement continued to work fine with no delay so I attempted to change the in game graphics settings. Problem continued. From there I did a google search and found several threads much like this one so I started messing with things. I right-clicked the GW2 client and changed properties to run on compatibility mode with windows xp and run as an admin. Still didn’t work. Several other similar attempts failed and then I figured I’d check my Nvidia settings. The settings were on ‘Auto-Select’ so I simply changed that to ‘High-performance NVIDIA processor’ and ran the game again. Problem solved.

tl;dr:
Seems my laptop was running GW2 on the intel graphics and setting the laptop strictly to Nvidia gpu fixed things for me.

Quick SS of what I changed for those who might not know what I’m referring to:
http://oi50.tinypic.com/2lj6ur8.jpg

Hope this helps some of you folks having this same issue.

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Posted by: Aoshi.4785

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I have heard of that working for some folks as well, ans the steps are outlined in the sticky for this as well. I tried that also, and as long as I was in the Win 8 environment, I still had the issues. Like I said, I rolled back and the game is perfect, maybe running better than most.

Too many variables and too many folks having different issues with the same set up, not enough consistency. I am sure it will be ironed out in the distant future, but I am also not one for waiting around, lol.