Guild Wars 2

i have very low fps (15-20) on low and high settings. my computer should be able to run it on max no problem like every other game i play.
iv checked other forums about this for solutions but found none. so if any of you can help please let me know.

heres my specs.
AMD FX™-4100 Quad-Core Processor 3.6 GHz
8.2 GB RAM
AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
windows 7

please let me know if theres something i can do to fix this or if a piece of my comp needs replacing.

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

ok thanks.
what would be a good processer for gw2 and gaming in general

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

The real bottleneck is the HD7700 (Either 7770 or 7750) with fewer SPs then my HD4890 and far less memory bandwidth I’d expect low FPS, a good CPU can only do so much when the GPU is lacking the needed horsepower by itself to push out higher FPS.

If you can swing it I’d upgrade the HD7700 to a HD7870 or HD7950, these are Both sub $300 USD and are good performers, HD7970s great but I doubt you want to fork out $400 on that :P.

Just to give you an idea here’s my current system I use to play GW2 with.

I net around 45+ FPS constantly at 1680×1050 with most settings at max, minus shadows (Medium), depth blur (Off) and LOD (Low)

Phenom II X4 955BE @ 3.9GHz
8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz
GigaByte HD4890OC 1GB (915MHz Core, 1GHz Mem)
Note that it has 800 SP’s vs your 512 to 640 SP’s and my 4890 has 272 (Double-precision FP) yours at max would have around 88 or GFLOPS (Double-precision).

An if you really want to upgrade the processor look at the new Vishera’s (AM3+) there better then the BDs and perform better too, the FX-8350 starts at 4GHz stock so if your not a fan of OCing that would be a good pick and at $220 USD there fairly priced.

You need to OC.

Well your best option would be an i5 or i7 intel but if you don’t want to get another motherboard get one of the piledriver cpus that just came out they have a bit better performance.

Install an affordable air cooler and OC it. Overclock.net will have an easy to follow guide.

Several coolers can work with both AMD and Intel processors. So you can likely swap into your future cpu/mobo.

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Swedemon.4670:

Install an affordable air cooler and OC it. Overclock.net will have an easy to follow guide.

Several coolers can work with both AMD and Intel processors. So you can likely swap into your future cpu/mobo.

Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO

Another good CPU cooler is the Zalman CNPS10X Performa, been using it just over a year an have yet to see it go past 47c max load @ 3.9GHz.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118059

Before upgrading your CPU check your FPS now. After the Lost Shores update my FPS plummeted to a range of 6 to 12 FPS regardless of the graphical settings.

My CPU (i7 950 – 4 cores, 8 threads @ 3.07 GHz) was only at an average load of 17% during game play. My RAM (12 GB DDR3) was hardly touched at a little over 4 GB in use. The GPU (GTX 560 Ti – not OC’d) was also hardly worked.

After that patch a few minutes ago, however, I logged back on to find that my FPS on minimum settings was at 114. Changing every thing back to maximum settings with all of the fancy goodness brought my FPS to my normal range of 40 to 45 frames per second.

So before you upgrade your PC, you might check your in-game performance one more time. Your CPU should be more than adequate with an average PassMark score of 4,000. If you’re still experiencing the peculiarly unalterable lag, then open Windows Task Manger and click on the Performance tab. While in-game see if your CPU is being heavily loaded or not.

Alteris.1528:

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

The real bottleneck is the HD7700 (Either 7770 or 7750) with fewer SPs then my HD4890 and far less memory bandwidth I’d expect low FPS, a good CPU can only do so much when the GPU is lacking the needed horsepower by itself to push out higher FPS.

If you can swing it I’d upgrade the HD7700 to a HD7870 or HD7950, these are Both sub $300 USD and are good performers, HD7970s great but I doubt you want to fork out $400 on that :P.

Just to give you an idea here’s my current system I use to play GW2 with.

I net around 45+ FPS constantly at 1680×1050 with most settings at max, minus shadows (Medium), depth blur (Off) and LOD (Low)

Phenom II X4 955BE @ 3.9GHz
8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz
GigaByte HD4890OC 1GB (915MHz Core, 1GHz Mem)
Note that it has 800 SP’s vs your 512 to 640 SP’s and my 4890 has 272 (Double-precision FP) yours at max would have around 88 or GFLOPS (Double-precision).

An if you really want to upgrade the processor look at the new Vishera’s (AM3+) there better then the BDs and perform better too, the FX-8350 starts at 4GHz stock so if your not a fan of OCing that would be a good pick and at $220 USD there fairly priced.

This is just bad advise if he changes his video settings from low to high with no change in FPS it’s the CPU.

Finn.8356:

i have very low fps (15-20) on low and high settings. my computer should be able to run it on max no problem like every other game i play.
iv checked other forums about this for solutions but found none. so if any of you can help please let me know.

heres my specs.
AMD FX™-4100 Quad-Core Processor 3.6 GHz
8.2 GB RAM
AMD Radeon HD 7700 Series
windows 7
If it’s a big box store bought PC you probably can not overclock but if you can a decent CPU cooler OC to 4.2 or higher.

please let me know if theres something i can do to fix this or if a piece of my comp needs replacing.

Moz.8264:

You need to OC.

I like the way the i5 showed not much FPS change from 3.0 to 4.0

zerk.9701:

Alteris.1528:

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

The real bottleneck is the HD7700 (Either 7770 or 7750) with fewer SPs then my HD4890 and far less memory bandwidth I’d expect low FPS, a good CPU can only do so much when the GPU is lacking the needed horsepower by itself to push out higher FPS.

If you can swing it I’d upgrade the HD7700 to a HD7870 or HD7950, these are Both sub $300 USD and are good performers, HD7970s great but I doubt you want to fork out $400 on that :P.

Just to give you an idea here’s my current system I use to play GW2 with.

I net around 45+ FPS constantly at 1680×1050 with most settings at max, minus shadows (Medium), depth blur (Off) and LOD (Low)

Phenom II X4 955BE @ 3.9GHz
8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz
GigaByte HD4890OC 1GB (915MHz Core, 1GHz Mem)
Note that it has 800 SP’s vs your 512 to 640 SP’s and my 4890 has 272 (Double-precision FP) yours at max would have around 88 or GFLOPS (Double-precision).

An if you really want to upgrade the processor look at the new Vishera’s (AM3+) there better then the BDs and perform better too, the FX-8350 starts at 4GHz stock so if your not a fan of OCing that would be a good pick and at $220 USD there fairly priced.

This is just bad advise if he changes his video settings from low to high with no change in FPS it’s the CPU.

lolz you apparently didn’t read the entire post or you wouldn’t have said that, I gave him all the advice he needed and good suggestions to choose from that would impact his performance the most with out needing to switch out his motherboard and cost him more, both time and money.

Alteris.1528:

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

Bulldozer is bad no matter what level of threading you use.

Squall Leonhart.2075:

Alteris.1528:

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

Bulldozer is bad no matter what level of threading you use.

An that’s why they came out with piledriver and why I didn’t suggest getting another BD lolz and why I stuck with my 955BE lols, I got an ASRock 990FX Extreme 4 motherboard but when I started seeing all the reviews on BD I decided to pass on it. Now how ever I may pick up the FX-8350 and see how that go’s, 4.6GHz on air at about the same or lower voltage then what I am at currently sounds pretty tempting lols.

Alteris.1528:

zerk.9701:

Alteris.1528:

alphacentari.7692:

you need a better processor the buldozer chips are terrible for gaming.

Actually its Not the BD chip he’s using, BDs are usually bad when it comes to Single threaded apps, GW2 is by no means single threaded, it does use roughly 2.5-3 cores max. How ever because the game is so poorly optimized, mainly its rendering engine, that it even has issues on systems with I7s and GTX 680s and HD7970s.

The real bottleneck is the HD7700 (Either 7770 or 7750) with fewer SPs then my HD4890 and far less memory bandwidth I’d expect low FPS, a good CPU can only do so much when the GPU is lacking the needed horsepower by itself to push out higher FPS.

If you can swing it I’d upgrade the HD7700 to a HD7870 or HD7950, these are Both sub $300 USD and are good performers, HD7970s great but I doubt you want to fork out $400 on that :P.

Just to give you an idea here’s my current system I use to play GW2 with.

I net around 45+ FPS constantly at 1680×1050 with most settings at max, minus shadows (Medium), depth blur (Off) and LOD (Low)

Phenom II X4 955BE @ 3.9GHz
8GB G.Skill DDR3 1600MHz
GigaByte HD4890OC 1GB (915MHz Core, 1GHz Mem)
Note that it has 800 SP’s vs your 512 to 640 SP’s and my 4890 has 272 (Double-precision FP) yours at max would have around 88 or GFLOPS (Double-precision).

An if you really want to upgrade the processor look at the new Vishera’s (AM3+) there better then the BDs and perform better too, the FX-8350 starts at 4GHz stock so if your not a fan of OCing that would be a good pick and at $220 USD there fairly priced.

This is just bad advise if he changes his video settings from low to high with no change in FPS it’s the CPU.

lolz you apparently didn’t read the entire post or you wouldn’t have said that, I gave him all the advice he needed and good suggestions to choose from that would impact his performance the most with out needing to switch out his motherboard and cost him more, both time and money.

Yes I did read it all and is just bad advise. Also I would take a i3 and a $50 MB over this.
An if you really want to upgrade the processor look at the new Vishera’s (AM3+) there better then the BDs and perform better too, the FX-8350 starts at 4GHz stock so if your not a fan of OCing that would be a good pick and at $220 USD there fairly priced.

If you live anywhere near a micro center wow on this.
http://www.microcenter.com/product/354589/Core_i5_2500K_33GHz_LGA_1155_Boxed_Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157304&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

Even if you have a one of the best rigs, the game is just poorly optimized and works is on a bad port ( just like prototype 2 ) i thought my card was bad too, i contacted their support and they never told me to wait. So i bought a new card, and sometimes it works with a steady 60fps, and in other situations it drops to 10.

They still need to optimize the game, but i dont think they are honest about it.

Invited a friend on the invite-a-friend deal. He has an i7-920, 6gb Ram and a 7750 1GB. Running 3-5fps. Not a good selling feature. This system is more than capable running <20% CPU and <35% Mem Load. ./boggle

IllogicalBeetle.9175:

Invited a friend on the invite-a-friend deal. He has an i7-920, 6gb Ram and a 7750 1GB. Running 3-5fps. Not a good selling feature. This system is more than capable running <20% CPU and <35% Mem Load. ./boggle

I agree its not looking good performance wise even on super beefy systems that you’d think would easily manage 60+ fps (excluding resolututions past 1080p) minus ofc Huge crowds.

It all boils down to the fact that they need to optimize the game more, with how unoptimized it is atm its literally forcing ppl who want to play to either play with bad fps and choppy performance or lower resolutions or buy new hardware that may or may not help.

using the latest nvidia or amd beta drivers helps as well, if the nvidia d3d9 recompiler is working inefficiently it can cause the driver to use more cpu then necessary