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Posted by: Jahn.7019

Jahn.7019

People seem to forget that SoR has more losses under its belt than wins, and yet it has the best community and is and always will be a top tier server.

No one cares about ppt or winning.

The BG chest thumping is amusing as always though.

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Posted by: Azure.8412

Azure.8412

Okay you heard it here guys, if your enemy has t3 keeps and uses siege in a siege based game you’re allowed to give up.

SoR is still fighting, especially in SoR bl. BG loves to constantly claim SoR is giving up. SoR never gives up.

Vorae [GC] – Necromancer
Sanctum Of Rall.

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Posted by: Titan.3472

Titan.3472

A WvW guild can call itself like that because they contribute for their server to fight for ppt in wvw. If you don’t then change your spelling.
A GvG guild means what it means also like a Pve guild, a Bank Guild, a Fotm Guild etc…

[IRON] are you a WvW guild ? SoR will be so sad to see you leave soon as you are secretly planning to transfer after getting wiped so hard. I find it sad because [IRON] was claiming having 600+ people queuing 2maps at once and being a wvw guild that can bring hard times… Where are you now? May be don’t forget to use TS it’s helpful for beginners. Just saying. Much love.

We reached that point : BG 620 ppt – SoR 20ppt – DB 55ppt

DB can say that they really fighted harder than SoR. And stand proud.

Titan War -BG – [CA] Center of Attention – Elite Warrior

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Posted by: CzarsWarr.9864

CzarsWarr.9864

So lets see if i got it right…
Last week sor was complaining about JQ’s decision to just fight and have fun instead of defending their map. Now Sor is basically doing the same thing.

Do what i say, dont do what i do? Okay then…

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Posted by: Jahn.7019

Jahn.7019

So let me get this straight, BG overstacks their server and goes FULL and the forums are then flooded with BG chest thumpers.

Stay classy BG.

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

Ladies and Gentlemen, tonight I present you with the chance to relive the 45 omega golem rush that was done on BG BL the other night. I would like to give a big thanks to Icoa and Merc for being wonderful host that night.

As a BG player…. that looks awesome and hilarious. I wish I was there to see it!

I wanna know what the initial scout in Bay said when he saw that.

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Posted by: Tarkus.4109

Tarkus.4109

Ladies and Gentlemen, tonight I present you with the chance to relive the 45 omega golem rush that was done on BG BL the other night. I would like to give a big thanks to Icoa and Merc for being wonderful host that night.

As a BG player…. that looks awesome and hilarious. I wish I was there to see it!

I wanna know what the initial scout in Bay said when he saw that.

inc

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Posted by: Joe.6184

Joe.6184

So let me get this straight, BG overstacks their server and goes FULL and the forums are then flooded with BG chest thumpers.

Stay classy BG.

I knew this is coming lol.

SICK PLAN SOR.

You guys purposefully lose 3 weeks in order to make PUGS jump ship to BG to make BG FULL.
THEN you guys can recruit hardcore wvw-only guilds to stack sor while BG is full and cant recruit anymore.

NICE PLAY SOR.

Grats on the wins once you get all the wvw-only guilds

FA Forum Warrior

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

So let me get this straight, BG overstacks their server and goes FULL and the forums are then flooded with BG chest thumpers.

Stay classy BG.

I knew this is coming lol.

SICK PLAN SOR.

You guys purposefully lose 3 weeks in order to make PUGS jump ship to BG to make BG FULL.
THEN you guys can recruit hardcore wvw-only guilds to stack sor while BG is full and cant recruit anymore.

NICE PLAY SOR.

Grats on the wins once you get all the wvw-only guilds

You totally got us.

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Posted by: Quenta.2978

Quenta.2978

GvG recap video for July is done. I hope you all enjoy it!

Sorry I didn’t get my normal weekly videos done this month. Between vacation with the family at the lake, Steam summer sale and all the other July festivities, I just worked with what footage I had so far for July.

Great GvGs everyone! Was a blast!

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Posted by: Rigel.3092

Rigel.3092

People seem to forget that SoR has more losses under its belt than wins, and yet it has the best community and is and always will be a top tier server.

No one cares about ppt or winning.

The BG chest thumping is amusing as always though.

Who the kitten are you fooling?! No doubt in my mind you give a kitten about PPT and winning or you would not go to the extent you all do to recruit guilds to your server, eh? If PPT means nothing, you all keep doing what your doing and you sir, will not have to worry about always being a top tier server, kkthx.

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Posted by: DeWolfe.2174

DeWolfe.2174

Why is it on every page we’re being mentioned? Don’t worry folks, we’ll be seeing you all real soon. Being the Hub of NA, you can rest assured JQ will never be far.

Have fun folks!

btw…. As much as I’m relishing the thought of killing all of you, I have to give props as those were some pretty epic Golem rushes

[AwM] of Jade Quarry.

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Posted by: WRod.3856

WRod.3856

Does TW GvG anymore? Whispered their leader a few times this week (no reply) and challenged on gw2gvg.com

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Posted by: Tortitudo Probo.2598

Tortitudo Probo.2598

So let me get this straight, BG overstacks their server and goes FULL and the forums are then flooded with BG chest thumpers.

Stay classy BG.

You’re starting to sound like a broken record…

[HB]

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Posted by: Waage.2047

Waage.2047

Does TW GvG anymore? Whispered their leader a few times this week (no reply) and challenged on gw2gvg.com

He is off “training” some where.

[RK] – Guild Leader and awesome Warrior – BG

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Posted by: Starscream.7803

Starscream.7803

A WvW guild can call itself like that because they contribute for their server to fight for ppt in wvw. If you don’t then change your spelling.
A GvG guild means what it means also like a Pve guild, a Bank Guild, a Fotm Guild etc…

[IRON] are you a WvW guild ? SoR will be so sad to see you leave soon as you are secretly planning to transfer after getting wiped so hard. I find it sad because [IRON] was claiming having 600+ people queuing 2maps at once and being a wvw guild that can bring hard times… Where are you now? May be don’t forget to use TS it’s helpful for beginners. Just saying. Much love.

We reached that point : BG 620 ppt – SoR 20ppt – DB 55ppt

DB can say that they really fighted harder than SoR. And stand proud.

Titan War -BG – [CA] Center of Attention – Elite FORUM Warrior

Titan titan titan. I enjoy your mushroom induced rants again SoR as much as the ones you made against BG. Thumbs up for fully supporting whichever server it is you are bandwagoning too this month though.
The point of GvGs is a chance to improve your skill as a guild and to reply to QQing about only winning with blobbing. IRON having 600 members and all the rest was forum drama (your favourite activity). We are still here and have no plans on going anywhere. Since the lauch IRON has moved server once (unlike you).

Fixed your sig for you as well.

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Posted by: Cod on Cod.3694

Cod on Cod.3694

To be honest, SoR can do whatever they want.

Tank to recruit, go outside in the sun, tank to recruit, play for fights not ppt, tank to recruit….. Etc…..

In the end it’s the competition that makes it fun, and that’s what your opposition offer. From what i’ve seen these past few months, thats exactly what BG offers no matter the odds.

Uphill or downhill… BG fights on!

A fine blend of everything, aged well.

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Posted by: Furiousbeard.7602

Furiousbeard.7602

FA is recruiting.

Come to tier 2 and bask in the glory of using all your skills in a fight, not just 1.

BG too stronk! Jump ship everybody!!

Edit: here is some history

http://mos.millenium.org/servers/history/39

FA Soldier of Fortune – Flashypants (20,078 WvW kills) http://m.youtube.com/user/Duppa81
Roamer: 99.99% BLs / 0.01% EB

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

Does TW GvG anymore? Whispered their leader a few times this week (no reply) and challenged on gw2gvg.com

Indo is off playing some D&D with natives in the Amazon.

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Posted by: WRod.3856

WRod.3856

Does TW GvG anymore? Whispered their leader a few times this week (no reply) and challenged on gw2gvg.com

Indo is off playing some D&D with natives in the Amazon.

He could have at least invited us. :\

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Posted by: Jahn.7019

Jahn.7019

I heard he was LARPing in Kashmir.

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Posted by: Neuromancer.2148

Neuromancer.2148

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT is actually laudable, as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Apprentice Namer – Blackgate

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Posted by: Sunt.6835

Sunt.6835

just ignore it ….

we all know it’s just a dumb excuse from Losing side.

they know they cant complete with us this week. that’s it ….

BG

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Posted by: Jahn.7019

Jahn.7019

You do realize it’s a game not rl right?

People do what’s fun, for most of SoR it’s the fights.

There’s a reason why the server with the most losses in history is still one of the best servers out there, and that reason is not ppt.

While BG may have made a big deal over SoRs 5 wins, most of SoR didn’t care. Now SoRs record is like 8 wins and 40 losses historically. lol.

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Posted by: Azure.8412

Azure.8412

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first. With this obsession, more and more people will become extremely affected when we do badly, causing the server to have more and more fairweathers. We don’t wish for this to happen. It’s our server’s philosophy to prevent this kind of obsession. That’s why many Rallians are completely ignoring the score and saying “I don’t care about ppt”. The score is just a nice bonus for us.

Vorae [GC] – Necromancer
Sanctum Of Rall.

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first. With this obsession, more and more people will become extremely affected, causing the server to have more and more fairweathers. We don’t wish for this to happen. It’s our server’s philosophy. That’s why many Rallians are trying to completely ignore the score and say “I don’t care about ppt”. The score is just a nice bonus for us.

I care about the score to the point of keeping us in a competitive matchup against other players. Beyond that, I could care less. I actually prefer losing as it reduces our queues A LOT and leads to more opponents showing up which drives up the level of difficulty. Queues 4 weeks ago stretched into an hour if not more. My queue was 2 mins the other night.

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Posted by: Azure.8412

Azure.8412

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first. With this obsession, more and more people will become extremely affected, causing the server to have more and more fairweathers. We don’t wish for this to happen. It’s our server’s philosophy. That’s why many Rallians are trying to completely ignore the score and say “I don’t care about ppt”. The score is just a nice bonus for us.

I care about the score to the point of keeping us in a competitive matchup against other players. Beyond that, I could care less. I actually prefer losing as it reduces our queues A LOT and leads to more opponents showing up which drives up the level of difficulty. Queues 4 weeks ago stretched into an hour if not more. My queue was 2 mins the other night.

Yeah. Same. I used to care a lot, but grew not to care. Stressing the ppt and score will just simply strain the server and it’s players more as they do overtime to win the matchup. The fights are the most important. The more bags the better.

Vorae [GC] – Necromancer
Sanctum Of Rall.

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Posted by: Shifty.4985

Shifty.4985

A WvW guild can call itself like that because they contribute for their server to fight for ppt in wvw. If you don’t then change your spelling.
A GvG guild means what it means also like a Pve guild, a Bank Guild, a Fotm Guild etc…

[IRON] are you a WvW guild ? SoR will be so sad to see you leave soon as you are secretly planning to transfer after getting wiped so hard. I find it sad because [IRON] was claiming having 600+ people queuing 2maps at once and being a wvw guild that can bring hard times… Where are you now? May be don’t forget to use TS it’s helpful for beginners. Just saying. Much love.

We reached that point : BG 620 ppt – SoR 20ppt – DB 55ppt

DB can say that they really fighted harder than SoR. And stand proud.

Titan War -BG – [CA] Center of Attention – Elite Warrior

I just died laughing to us having 600 people in a guild

Ex [HB]|[IRON][][RIP][RawR]
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Posted by: Punny.9210

Punny.9210

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first. With this obsession, more and more people will become extremely affected, causing the server to have more and more fairweathers. We don’t wish for this to happen. It’s our server’s philosophy. That’s why many Rallians are trying to completely ignore the score and say “I don’t care about ppt”. The score is just a nice bonus for us.

I care about the score to the point of keeping us in a competitive matchup against other players. Beyond that, I could care less. I actually prefer losing as it reduces our queues A LOT and leads to more opponents showing up which drives up the level of difficulty. Queues 4 weeks ago stretched into an hour if not more. My queue was 2 mins the other night.

Yeah. Same. I used to care a lot, but grew not to care. Stressing the ppt and score will just simply strain the server and it’s players more as they do overtime to win the matchup. The fights are the most important. The more bags the better.

yea bro

thank to your kindness of losing by blow out points. so none of us havn’t had to play

overtime

keep on doing that in lower tier as well and a lot of ppl will love you guys

Blackgate

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Posted by: Peetee.9406

Peetee.9406

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT is actually laudable, as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Maximizing PPT isn’t fun, upgrading towers, escorting yaks, building siege, scouting, all of these activities are not fun.

It’s one thing for you guys because you’re winning and winning is inherently fun but we’re not winning. To me it’s like throwing gold at a lost cause and since I don’t run in the zerg I’m not replenishing the funds I spend. I’m not having fun and my character is regressing.

God bless the elite guilds on SoR that are still out there fighting and sticking it out every day but I know I speak for a fair amount of players on the server who just don’t give a kitten anymore.

Kayku
[CDS] Caedas
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Posted by: fade.8603

fade.8603

Its not that anyone has given up, just that the extra motivation to push for a closer score simply isn’t possible. People are possibly just playing their daily few hours raid instead of the overtime that everyone does when scores are close.

When such thing happens, its often that pugs are affected as they log on to a cmderless map which results in what we see as “giving up”.

For ppl who play for fights, they are the ones who play that 1-2 hrs daily, no overtime no extra effort to stay on and push. Those who stay a bit later are the ones pushing for the PPT. It happens when scores are close.

BlackGate

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Posted by: LetoII.3782

LetoII.3782

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT is actually laudable, as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Lul he sed balance.
BGoc/sea being bored from lack of doors is definite side benefit.
So is the bandwagon shuffle, come to think of it.
Hated seeing shiny new sor forum ppl posting OOC qq

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Posted by: zepp.4109

zepp.4109

bg the best server

jk

The server with the best coverage wins. Without JQ to counter BG’s SEA, SoR can do nothing to win BG.

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Posted by: Vena.8436

Vena.8436

Honestly, I think part of the changes is that the old-fashioned “zerg target x till it dies” doesn’t work as well as it used to. Havoc is starting to run more rampant and it does a lot of damage when not dealt with while everyone else is running into each other with 80+ groups. Smaller organized groups, where you have three separate guilds running their own portion of the map, are much better to react, respond, cause damage all over, and take on larger numbers.

You could throw 80 people at 20 defenders, but that leaves 60 others to either come in behind you, or flip your other things. If all of it is over a paper keep… even if the defenders lose it, you end up still being stuck there because its paper and an organized force will tear through its door in seconds.

T3 makes havocs and smaller groups less immediately threatening and gives a server more luxury at blobbing up, perhaps that’s part of the problem.

Vena/Var – Guardian/Thief
[Eon] – Blackgate

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Posted by: Jahn.7019

Jahn.7019

To be honest SoR has always been an underdog server which is why the 5 weeks we won, no one cared and some were surprised we won.

Maybe it was BG tanking so they could recuit and get their server to FULL, I mean they know so much about that.

SoR is happy and apparently so is BG, that should be enough for everyone unless of course BG was trying to destroy any competition they have left. But I know that cant be true, BG wants to fight the best and balanced servers for their wins.

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Posted by: Neuromancer.2148

Neuromancer.2148

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first.

This doesn’t really line up with what I know of SoR, but I’ll take your word for it, since I suppose you could pick and choose certain posts from certain BG individuals and accuse us of having an unhealthy obsession with being first. As a server, Blackgate has been knocked on its kitten more than twice but I really salute the core guilds who show up day in and day out regardless of the score and ranking. These guilds are the reason why we’ve stabilized in T1 and never went on a downward spiral even when we got pushed down into T2. SoR has not experienced this dip yet, but I do believe the community is strong enough to maintain a good server rank for a very long time.

Apprentice Namer – Blackgate

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Posted by: Wrex.6798

Wrex.6798

So who do I have to kitten on here to get a GvG with CA?

Also have some respect for yourselves and post the video of IRON and TW wiping you for 35 mins on EB, only baddies show wins and not loses. Respect though, I wasn’t commanding last night but I did enjoy watching you guys at work.

//Wrex

PS: GvG means you can’t have everyone on the map on you just even numbers. Maybe a nice 25v25.

PPS: Fannwong, what is this I’ve been sent?!?!

Attachments:

IRON Gaming Boss.
www.Iron-Gaming.Com

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Posted by: SykkoB.9465

SykkoB.9465

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first.

This doesn’t really line up with what I know of SoR, but I’ll take your word for it, since I suppose you could pick and choose certain posts from certain BG individuals and accuse us of having an unhealthy obsession with being first. As a server, Blackgate has been knocked on its kitten more than twice but I really salute the core guilds who show up day in and day out regardless of the score and ranking. These guilds are the reason why we’ve stabilized in T1 and never went on a downward spiral even when we got pushed down into T2. SoR has not experienced this dip yet, but I do believe the community is strong enough to maintain a good server rank for a very long time.

btw we went down to t2 like a month ago for 1 week. WE faced tc and sos

SykkoB[Twl]
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Posted by: Carloskakun.3591

Carloskakun.3591

to SOR and BG:
We are going to have a nice rest this night as today’s fights were so much fun in SOR borderland! Thanks so much for crushing with us and the keep, and the rest of the matters will leave behind for the next timezone to have fun with:) Goodnight, have a nice day, and btw, thank you all the DB-ers fight with us tonight!
greetings from NNK, as a DB-ers:)

Carloskakun[NNK] from Dragonbrand:) nice to meet you all

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Posted by: Naytron.7831

Naytron.7831

Does TW GvG anymore? Whispered their leader a few times this week (no reply) and challenged on gw2gvg.com

Us in Night Shift [NS] have been looking forward to gvg’ing the “#1 NA [TW]” but I guess not this week…

/disappointed

Nate
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Posted by: PoweredByRice.3517

PoweredByRice.3517

Underdog server? Hhmmm.. 2 JQNA guild just transferred to SOR and SOR recruited IRON & KISS a while back.

To be honest SoR has always been an underdog server which is why the 5 weeks we won, no one cared and some were surprised we won.

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Posted by: Sardonia.8196

Sardonia.8196

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first. With this obsession, more and more people will become extremely affected, causing the server to have more and more fairweathers. We don’t wish for this to happen. It’s our server’s philosophy. That’s why many Rallians are trying to completely ignore the score and say “I don’t care about ppt”. The score is just a nice bonus for us.

I care about the score to the point of keeping us in a competitive matchup against other players. Beyond that, I could care less. I actually prefer losing as it reduces our queues A LOT and leads to more opponents showing up which drives up the level of difficulty. Queues 4 weeks ago stretched into an hour if not more. My queue was 2 mins the other night.

Yeah. Same. I used to care a lot, but grew not to care. Stressing the ppt and score will just simply strain the server and it’s players more as they do overtime to win the matchup. The fights are the most important. The more bags the better.

yea bro

thank to your kindness of losing by blow out points. so none of us havn’t had to play

overtime

keep on doing that in lower tier as well and a lot of ppl will love you guys

You realize there are no more tiers right? BG may find themselves in a once called T3 match next week. You never know

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Posted by: Skoti.3195

Skoti.3195

Underdog server? Hhmmm.. 2 JQNA guild just transferred to SOR and SOR recruited IRON & KISS a while back.

But only BG became FULL since then.

[IRON]

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Posted by: Cod on Cod.3694

Cod on Cod.3694

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first.

This doesn’t really line up with what I know of SoR, but I’ll take your word for it, since I suppose you could pick and choose certain posts from certain BG individuals and accuse us of having an unhealthy obsession with being first. As a server, Blackgate has been knocked on its kitten more than twice but I really salute the core guilds who show up day in and day out regardless of the score and ranking. These guilds are the reason why we’ve stabilized in T1 and never went on a downward spiral even when we got pushed down into T2. SoR has not experienced this dip yet, but I do believe the community is strong enough to maintain a good server rank for a very long time.

btw we went down to t2 like a month ago for 1 week. WE faced tc and sos

What’s T2?

(Was just about to repeat something said 100’s of times, in every match thread since RNG matchups started, by people from all server, but went with sarcasme instead)

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Posted by: Laylyn.6018

Laylyn.6018

(Note: edited the post because I double checked my files on server numbers over the 6+ months) FW

(Well constructed answer above removed due to forum posting count limitations… )

Your advantages then and now, equal and exceed what SoS was winning with against far harder odds. Where your coverage is less currently, you compensate by having strong coverage where SoS never had any.

SoS’s strength was it’s NA fielding, which led to it’s victory over a huge SBI. From what I’ve heard from SoS vets directly is that SoR exceeded that NA fielding when entering T1, even before recruiting TSYM. What exceeded that was cake.

I know you’ll have data graphs, but every estimate I’ve seen put out never includes militia which beyond the guilds themselves, accounts for a wildcard variable of about 50-75% of the fielding for most NA servers. That’s been true in the NA bracket since HoD’s Titan Alliance and it was true for them as well.

Organized play grows non main tagged numbers. Morale loses shrink them. Training time off and obsessions other than what militia can help with disrupt your turn out even more. PVE events hit every server with this as well.

With their militia, Titan Alliance’s HoD had no coverage holes. A newly crowned JQ with 3 hour NA queues had them. A newly crowned SBI had them. SoS had them and actively had to recruit to maintain numbers as T1 Green. BG had them and had the same logistical problems SoS did.

BG took the crown every time by pushing for it. Except for Titan Alliance’s HoD, every server before had to do the same.

The real exception is SoR’s own no overtime policy. Every server except for Titan’s HoD had to put the hours in. SoR decided not to.

Population forum warrior misconceptions come from this. Your players putting in 1-4 hours think that a player putting in 8-16 is part of that same time zone fielding. That’s completely inaccurate.

Also, most people miss the fact that the maps are smaller. Most people still haven’t noticed that the zones tend to hover at about 80 per map, while silently being adjusted with random patches since the Culling fix. That’s far less than the fielding at game launch.

Back to the data graph numbers, most of what you are tracking internally is your own server attrition. It’s a nearly universal factor for servers in both brackets. You are no more of a victim from this than any other server. It’s simply a natural player base attrition as a game goes on, though admittedly accelerated in GW2. In fact, it’s why IRON transferred. IRON’s stated reason to transfer from the EU bracket was to keep the guild from dying off in this game. It’s the same motive that many guilds transfer with.

What you probably aren’t tracking is your opponent’s attrition. Servers and guilds are simply wielding less numbers as they naturally do when the game goes on. This impacts militia as well, which accounts for the feeling of what most time brackets are fielding. Herein, lies the months of forum bickering and propaganda, mostly from wild misconceptions that were less researched than most people’s political philosophies.

Your server is still fighting a coverage war that hasn’t existed since Oct 2012. I respectfully submit, most of this in your server member’s heads. Everything since then has not been the giant that came before.

Titan Alliance’s invincible coverage is gone and the silent logistics behind it are not being reproduced, even on a smaller scale. At some point, people might want to wake up from that. At this rate, it’ll probably happen sometime in 2015.

Everything above is of course factoring all time zones. Most of your posts are SEA specific.

My 2 cents. Your mileage may vary.

/salute

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Posted by: Tortitudo Probo.2598

Tortitudo Probo.2598

TC was first! :x

[HB]

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Posted by: Zikory.6871

Zikory.6871

I don’t understand why people are talking about how not caring about the PPT as if being flippant about the core mechanic of this game mode were the nobler pursuit of WvW. Isn’t this why you fight harder? Isn’t this why balance among the servers actually matters? If your server’s score isn’t up to par, just laugh it off and say you’ll do better next week. To say it doesn’t matter compared to some random pursuit is dishonest and discredits the entire community.

Definitely, ppt does matter to an extent, but only an extremely small one, to Rallians. SoR simply doesn’t want to ever become past rank 1 servers that got too obsessed getting first. With this obsession, more and more people will become extremely affected, causing the server to have more and more fairweathers. We don’t wish for this to happen. It’s our server’s philosophy. That’s why many Rallians are trying to completely ignore the score and say “I don’t care about ppt”. The score is just a nice bonus for us.

I care about the score to the point of keeping us in a competitive matchup against other players. Beyond that, I could care less. I actually prefer losing as it reduces our queues A LOT and leads to more opponents showing up which drives up the level of difficulty. Queues 4 weeks ago stretched into an hour if not more. My queue was 2 mins the other night.

Yeah. Same. I used to care a lot, but grew not to care. Stressing the ppt and score will just simply strain the server and it’s players more as they do overtime to win the matchup. The fights are the most important. The more bags the better.

yea bro

thank to your kindness of losing by blow out points. so none of us havn’t had to play

overtime

keep on doing that in lower tier as well and a lot of ppl will love you guys

You realize there are no more tiers right? BG may find themselves in a once called T3 match next week. You never know

Lol you realize the term “tier” is to reference where your server is fighting? There being 8 matches or 8 “tiers” of matches. Our match up is “tier 1” based off the placement on mos….

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Posted by: Liquid.9672

Liquid.9672

PPS: Fannwong, what is this I’ve been sent?!?!

LOL @ the commentary about your accent. I know what they’re talking about though. /swoon

Also, “any other New Zealanders in there? I would like to understand at least 1 person’s English”. I’m not sure why but that quote cracked me up. Although, we have a good number of Kiwis on Blackgate and they seem to understand our English just fine. (shrug)

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Posted by: Cod on Cod.3694

Cod on Cod.3694

Lol you realize the term “tier” is to reference where your server is fighting? There being 8 matches or 8 “tiers” of matches. Our match up is “tier 1” based off the placement on mos….

… But have nothing to do with server strength/rank anymore.

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Posted by: Burl.9567

Burl.9567

PPS: Fannwong, what is this I’ve been sent?!?!

LOL @ the commentary about your accent. I know what they’re talking about though. /swoon

Also, “any other New Zealanders in there? I would like to understand at least 1 person’s English”. I’m not sure why but that quote cracked me up. Although, we have a good number of Kiwis on Blackgate and they seem to understand our English just fine. (shrug)

I can see where the issue comes up. I’m surprised they have internet.

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