Guild Wars 2

DR, is it uplevel night?

Hey what is it ET, GOM beat up on DR day? you each held half of our corner of EB, and half of each side of our BL.. Lets beat up on the little guy because its easy. fight each other for once..

ET beat on GoM Sunday.

K U T M.4539:

Avatar of Belle.9623:

I’ll skip wintersday since I’m a grinch.

Selling correctly sized hearts, 85g.

who the kitten is K U T M.4539

WantedMan.4076:

Hey what is it ET, GOM beat up on DR day? you each held half of our corner of EB, and half of each side of our BL.. Lets beat up on the little guy because its easy. fight each other for once..

Neko Dudley.2495:

Gate of Madness is famous for its widespread tolerance. Lowbies, newbies, kooky builds, loners, skritt, all have their place here.

With Wintersday starting tomorrow, I predict the skritt migration to be the stuff of legend, for all three of our servers. So, how can we celebrate in WvW and keep it fun?

I say we all celebrate with fireworks and box’s of fun in the big open space between SM and DR’s EB keep at around 12:30 PM (server time) who’s with me!

WantedMan.4076:

Hey what is it ET, GOM beat up on DR day? you each held half of our corner of EB, and half of each side of our BL.. Lets beat up on the little guy because its easy. fight each other for once..

Well, my guild is/was having fun on ET’s bl, and I got a bit carried away.. as usual..

You could call it casual WvW at its finest. I believe I went through over 200 blueprints; by the end of it, my arms were so sore that they were stuck holding imaginary siege..

Thanks to everyone who played along, didn’t yell at me, and made it generally enjoyable

Crunk n monkey.3749:

I’m both ashamed and disappointed. When a 3 man ET group takes GoM Hills, I call it a good play by ET. But when we call for help from EB to defend our Hills against that 3-man group and the response we get is “We don’t care about our BL, Stonemist is more important.” It goes to show that there is discontent in GoM. I think I can safely say that the majority of the WvW guilds in GoM are on the same page that our BL is the #1 priority and nothing else. That doesn’t mean that all of them are on the same page. But ALL of our WvW guilds only make up a small portion of the competition you see running around in WvW, the rest are pugz from other small guilds or players from the large PvE guilds in GoM.

There is a very long discussion about priorities in some servers… In fact, I belive the priority should be where you can hold more points…

Keeps worth 25ppt be it on Eternal Battleground, [Your Server Name] Borderland or [Enemy Server Name] Borderland. And I would gadly trade a bay keep on my server borderland for a hills keep in an enemy borderland as hills keep is a much defensible position compared to bay.

Stonemist Castle is the highest ppt on the maps (as it worth 35), and GoM has the advantage of being red (thus constantly controling the overlook, which is the only keep that can harass SMC). I’d pretty much priorize SMC over one keep (25<35) since SMC have 2 rows of walls/gates as any keep. Also, SMC have the advantage of being able to control all 6 towers around it (thus increasing the total ppt it worth).

Of course, most people down here think that BL lockdown is the best/only way to play, which sometimes get very disapointing… This kind of thinking is the reason you go to an enemy borderland and see no friendly living soul around for hours (And I personally don’t like it).

But in the end, who I am to tell people how to play eh? Those are just my two cents…

Hey guys, DI commander here, its been a lot of fun going up against both servers so far. GoMs sizable zergs are alot of fun to go against and DR, well DR’s DR. Either way, i’m enjoying the hell out of this week and its such a relief to be out of leagues. Just wish DR would stop playing on the uplevels, the zergs are a tad to easy to wipe and it gets a tad boring.

With that said, keep up the fun on all the servers!

Also just gonna put this here…

11:59 EST
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You can always come play with BS Jeknar. We rarely go homeland or EB. Always enemy if we can.

Jeknar.6184:

There is a very long discussion about priorities in some servers… In fact, I belive the priority should be where you can hold more points…

Keeps worth 25ppt be it on Eternal Battleground, [Your Server Name] Borderland or [Enemy Server Name] Borderland. And I would gadly trade a bay keep on my server borderland for a hills keep in an enemy borderland as hills keep is a much defensible position compared to bay.

Stonemist Castle is the highest ppt on the maps (as it worth 35), and GoM has the advantage of being red (thus constantly controling the overlook, which is the only keep that can harass SMC). I’d pretty much priorize SMC over one keep (25<35) since SMC have 2 rows of walls/gates as any keep. Also, SMC have the advantage of being able to control all 6 towers around it (thus increasing the total ppt it worth).

Of course, most people down here think that BL lockdown is the best/only way to play, which sometimes get very disapointing… This kind of thinking is the reason you go to an enemy borderland and see no friendly living soul around for hours (And I personally don’t like it).

But in the end, who I am to tell people how to play eh? Those are just my two cents…

I’m despising SM a little more every day. If we don’t held it, trebs are going to be built (logged in yesterday to destroyed fortify walls in OL, and almost in OW…). And then it’s going to be under attack almost constantly and when someone asks help to defend something else, something that’s fortified (like Hills), the answer is “SM is more important”…

Well if you want to sacrifice other things for SM, at least correctly protect it, instead of losing it 20 minutes later. SM is worth one keep and one tower.

RedStar.4218:

I’m despising SM a little more every day. If we don’t held it, trebs are going to be built (logged in yesterday to destroyed fortify walls in OL, and almost in OW…). And then it’s going to be under attack almost constantly and when someone asks help to defend something else, something that’s fortified (like Hills), the answer is “SM is more important”…

Well if you want to sacrifice other things for SM, at least correctly protect it, instead of losing it 20 minutes later. SM is worth one keep and five towers.

Heh… I’m the one who trebbed those walls (along with a guildie). So here is a good new: I’m not going to do it again. The commander on the map simply ignored the fact that we sit there for more than a hour trebbing those wall, and never attacked the overlook, ogrewatch or even helped the trebs when GoM amassed around us…. So, I will not waste my superior trebs and time on this anymore (and not everyone has the patience of doing super boring treb work)

Edit: Fixed the last part for you… Anyone who correctly controls SMC will control Klovan/Wildcreek/Durios/Quentin/Anzalias/Ogrewatch (since 2 are technically yours already, it’s 4 plus).

Dear Detective Miss Winters,

If the Very Good Detectives [VGD] “Keep Devona’s Rest free of crime”, why it have so many thieves?

Seriously… I think that from every 10 DR players, 7 are thieves and the other 3 are some random upleveled class. I never ran unto so many thieves…

Jeknar.6184:

Crunk n monkey.3749:

I’m both ashamed and disappointed. When a 3 man ET group takes GoM Hills, I call it a good play by ET. But when we call for help from EB to defend our Hills against that 3-man group and the response we get is “We don’t care about our BL, Stonemist is more important.” It goes to show that there is discontent in GoM. I think I can safely say that the majority of the WvW guilds in GoM are on the same page that our BL is the #1 priority and nothing else. That doesn’t mean that all of them are on the same page. But ALL of our WvW guilds only make up a small portion of the competition you see running around in WvW, the rest are pugz from other small guilds or players from the large PvE guilds in GoM.

There is a very long discussion about priorities in some servers… In fact, I belive the priority should be where you can hold more points…

Keeps worth 25ppt be it on Eternal Battleground, [Your Server Name] Borderland or [Enemy Server Name] Borderland. And I would gadly trade a bay keep on my server borderland for a hills keep in an enemy borderland as hills keep is a much defensible position compared to bay.

Stonemist Castle is the highest ppt on the maps (as it worth 35), and GoM has the advantage of being red (thus constantly controling the overlook, which is the only keep that can harass SMC). I’d pretty much priorize SMC over one keep (25<35) since SMC have 2 rows of walls/gates as any keep. Also, SMC have the advantage of being able to control all 6 towers around it (thus increasing the total ppt it worth).

Of course, most people down here think that BL lockdown is the best/only way to play, which sometimes get very disapointing… This kind of thinking is the reason you go to an enemy borderland and see no friendly living soul around for hours (And I personally don’t like it).

But in the end, who I am to tell people how to play eh? Those are just my two cents…

Forgive me for chiming in on your match-up thread but I want a piece of this discussion.

SMC is possibly one of the hardest locations to hold, it has so many entrances and so much room to move except the inner hallways. It even takes some time to locate an offensive compared to most keeps. It is also 1000x harder to upgrade to make it easier to defend.

My opinion is SMC is secondary to BL until that location is so sieged up and upgraded you can defend those WP. That way you waste less time on the defensive. If you waste less time on the defense you wont have to be doing it as much = higher ppt.

WvW is also a long term game, you need to consider the locations in which you have advantage and shore-up your consistant ppt before considering moving to further objectives. If you can do that you are on your way for the whole week. SMC is not a reliable long term objective unless you can upgrade and WP it. Keeps are.

Additionally maintaining that consistent average ppt will keep servers from being ‘stomped’ in the eyes of fair weathers giving a more consistent population/turn out.

Jeknar.6184:

Crunk n monkey.3749:

I’m both ashamed and disappointed. When a 3 man ET group takes GoM Hills, I call it a good play by ET. But when we call for help from EB to defend our Hills against that 3-man group and the response we get is “We don’t care about our BL, Stonemist is more important.” It goes to show that there is discontent in GoM. I think I can safely say that the majority of the WvW guilds in GoM are on the same page that our BL is the #1 priority and nothing else. That doesn’t mean that all of them are on the same page. But ALL of our WvW guilds only make up a small portion of the competition you see running around in WvW, the rest are pugz from other small guilds or players from the large PvE guilds in GoM.

There is a very long discussion about priorities in some servers… In fact, I belive the priority should be where you can hold more points…

Keeps worth 25ppt be it on Eternal Battleground, [Your Server Name] Borderland or [Enemy Server Name] Borderland. And I would gadly trade a bay keep on my server borderland for a hills keep in an enemy borderland as hills keep is a much defensible position compared to bay.

Stonemist Castle is the highest ppt on the maps (as it worth 35), and GoM has the advantage of being red (thus constantly controling the overlook, which is the only keep that can harass SMC). I’d pretty much priorize SMC over one keep (25<35) since SMC have 2 rows of walls/gates as any keep. Also, SMC have the advantage of being able to control all 6 towers around it (thus increasing the total ppt it worth).

Of course, most people down here think that BL lockdown is the best/only way to play, which sometimes get very disapointing… This kind of thinking is the reason you go to an enemy borderland and see no friendly living soul around for hours (And I personally don’t like it).

But in the end, who I am to tell people how to play eh? Those are just my two cents…

It’s all situational. How upgraded are each one? How many people do you have attacking it? How many people do you have defending?

In this particular situation, only 1/4th of our EB crew could have left to support the one person trying to defend Hills from the 3 – 5 ET attacking it and we still would have been fine in EB/SMC as no one was presently attacking it.

CornChips.5392:

Jeknar.6184:

Crunk n monkey.3749:

I’m both ashamed and disappointed. When a 3 man ET group takes GoM Hills, I call it a good play by ET. But when we call for help from EB to defend our Hills against that 3-man group and the response we get is “We don’t care about our BL, Stonemist is more important.” It goes to show that there is discontent in GoM. I think I can safely say that the majority of the WvW guilds in GoM are on the same page that our BL is the #1 priority and nothing else. That doesn’t mean that all of them are on the same page. But ALL of our WvW guilds only make up a small portion of the competition you see running around in WvW, the rest are pugz from other small guilds or players from the large PvE guilds in GoM.

There is a very long discussion about priorities in some servers… In fact, I belive the priority should be where you can hold more points…

Keeps worth 25ppt be it on Eternal Battleground, [Your Server Name] Borderland or [Enemy Server Name] Borderland. And I would gadly trade a bay keep on my server borderland for a hills keep in an enemy borderland as hills keep is a much defensible position compared to bay.

Stonemist Castle is the highest ppt on the maps (as it worth 35), and GoM has the advantage of being red (thus constantly controling the overlook, which is the only keep that can harass SMC). I’d pretty much priorize SMC over one keep (25<35) since SMC have 2 rows of walls/gates as any keep. Also, SMC have the advantage of being able to control all 6 towers around it (thus increasing the total ppt it worth).

Of course, most people down here think that BL lockdown is the best/only way to play, which sometimes get very disapointing… This kind of thinking is the reason you go to an enemy borderland and see no friendly living soul around for hours (And I personally don’t like it).

But in the end, who I am to tell people how to play eh? Those are just my two cents…

Forgive me for chiming in on your match-up thread but I want a piece of this discussion.

SMC is possibly one of the hardest locations to hold, it has so many entrances and so much room to move except the inner hallways. It even takes some time to locate an offensive compared to most keeps. It is also 1000x harder to upgrade to make it easier to defend.

My opinion is SMC is secondary to BL until that location is so sieged up and upgraded you can defend those WP. That way you waste less time on the defensive. If you waste less time on the defense you wont have to be doing it as much = higher ppt.

WvW is also a long term game, you need to consider the locations in which you have advantage and shore-up your consistant ppt before considering moving to further objectives. If you can do that you are on your way for the whole week. SMC is not a reliable long term objective unless you can upgrade and WP it. Keeps are.

Additionally maintaining that consistent average ppt will keep servers from being ‘stomped’ in the eyes of fair weathers giving a more consistent population/turn out.

There is a strong belief among GoM fair weathers that taking and maintaining the only castle in WvW wins the match. You can’t win a match by focusing on the biggest objective and forget everything else. And because of this, its led to some veteran commanders refusing to tag up and lead in EB. It’s like there is a saying, in EB, GoM zerg drives the commander.

Jeknar.6184:

Dear Detective Miss Winters,

If the Very Good Detectives [VGD] “Keep Devona’s Rest free of crime”, why it have so many bad thieves?

Seriously… I think that from every 10 DR players, 7 are bad thieves and the other 3 are some random upleveled class. I never ran unto so many bad thieves…

there

Crunk n monkey.3749:

It’s all situational. How upgraded are each one? How many people do you have attacking it? How many people do you have defending?

In this particular situation, only 1/4th of our EB crew could have left to support the one person trying to defend Hills from the 3 – 5 ET attacking it and we still would have been fine in EB/SMC as no one was presently attacking it.

True… Overzealotry in defending the castle over the cost of everything else won’t help (that’s why I said one keep). Still I find it weird that GoM BL didn’t had a single person to defend a fully upgraded hills from 5 people… One or two people would problably be enough to stop this attack as the keep would likely have supplies for some superior counter siege.

Jeknar.6184:

Heh… I’m the one who trebbed those walls (along with a guildie). So here is a good new: I’m not going to do it again. The commander on the map simply ignored the fact that we sit there for more than a hour trebbing those wall, and never attacked the overlook, ogrewatch or even helped the trebs when GoM amassed around us…. So, I will not waste my superior trebs and time on this anymore (and not everyone has the patience of doing super boring treb work)

Edit: Fixed the last part for you… Anyone who correctly controls SMC will control Klovan/Wildcreek/Durios/Quentin/Anzalias/Ogrewatch (since 2 are technically yours already, it’s 4 plus).

Oh I was speaking in terms of points. It’s hard to find people willing to treb walls for 5 minutes or more. But not as annoying as having the wall down but for some reason the commander won’t get it.

As for yesterday : I log in, see OW under attack. I head there, see two trebs. Five minute later I go in OL and see our fortified wall down. I was pretty shocked at both servers : ours for not repairing it (well I guess they understood the concept of "don’t waste supplies until treb is down) and yours because the freaking wall was down xD.
The only reasoning we got was “maybe they don’t have a lot of persons on and no commander”.

The life of a trebber is a very sad life :/

Crunk n monkey.3749:

It’s like there is a saying, in EB, GoM zerg drives the commander crazy.

fixed
:p

Avatar of Belle.9623:

You can always come play with BS Jeknar. We rarely go homeland or EB. Always enemy if we can.

No matter how much I try, every day I go roaming I think I should stick with zerging…
I feel improductive if I’m not doing some PvDoor…

Happy Wintersday GoM!

so yeah I see ET is making a huge push. Almost all of EB is theirs (Except DR). and alot of GOMs BL also. Good job guys. keep it up.

You could at least have put a little bit of green in there :p

(But yeah, for the next 24 hours, expect us to be too busy doing other stuff than WvW)

GoM: “OMG OMG OMG OMG new PvE content!”

It was fun on EB today… We came to finish off what was left of GoM (after taking their BL), and then people demanded that vista on lowlands, so we had to take DR side aswell…

Then the initial idea was to hold Overlook and deny GoM of points so we can try for 1st, but some people decided to stay on lowlands to secure second… In the end we lost both keeps with our forces divided…

Oh Eredon…

I got so much wxp via pvdoor. It did get boring but I liked getting 4-5 levels in a relatively short amount of time.

TeamBattleAxe.3901:

GoM: “OMG OMG OMG OMG new PvE content!”

Ascended Armor time.

SMC is essentially a double edged sword. You get that ppt and you work to get that ppt but in the end, you have to hold it if you really want it. If your goal was just to take it momentarily, then it’s not a big deal. But if you plan on holding it, you need round the clock surveillance for it and most of the time, it’s not even worth the effort.

Good fight GOM in your hills tonight. Was a lot of fun. You guys are good and bunkering down that is for sure.

WantedMan.4076:

Hey what is it ET, GOM beat up on DR day? you each held half of our corner of EB, and half of each side of our BL.. Lets beat up on the little guy because its easy. fight each other for once..

Equally beat up on

ToaLux.6478:

Well, my guild is/was having fun on ET’s bl, and I got a bit carried away.. as usual..

You could call it casual WvW at its finest. I believe I went through over 200 blueprints; by the end of it, my arms were so sore that they were stuck holding imaginary siege..

Thanks to everyone who played along, didn’t yell at me, and made it generally enjoyable

A mention of SO in pic 3

<3

arKRazor.8654:

ToaLux.6478:

Well, my guild is/was having fun on ET’s bl, and I got a bit carried away.. as usual..

You could call it casual WvW at its finest. I believe I went through over 200 blueprints; by the end of it, my arms were so sore that they were stuck holding imaginary siege..

Thanks to everyone who played along, didn’t yell at me, and made it generally enjoyable

A mention of SO in pic 3

<3

Haha, correct! He was telling me about how SO was beating up some guild that he was also terrorizing, I believe, in case you were wondering

EricL.5861:

Good fight GOM in your hills tonight. Was a lot of fun. You guys are good and bunkering down that is for sure.

Wasn’t ready for that portal bomb. But we had fun too.

So much Aoe on that door, almost didn’t get through.

bokunocarrie.7215:

SMC is essentially a double edged sword. You get that ppt and you work to get that ppt but in the end, you have to hold it if you really want it. If your goal was just to take it momentarily, then it’s not a big deal. But if you plan on holding it, you need round the clock surveillance for it and most of the time, it’s not even worth the effort.

I agree with the first part, but the second one is questionable…

SMC flip more constantly where the servers have more coverage than down here where most servers have huge coverage gaps. Basically for us lower tiers, if you hold SMC through the prime time, you won it (unless one of the enemy servers have a night crew you do not, but that problably will cost you more than just SMC) since things will be quiet for long hours where the castle is likely to get supplies and upgrade without any danger… Many times I went to sleep with an enemy paper castle, to wake up with a Iron Wall and WP in the middle of EB.

Jeknar.6184:

bokunocarrie.7215:

SMC is essentially a double edged sword. You get that ppt and you work to get that ppt but in the end, you have to hold it if you really want it. If your goal was just to take it momentarily, then it’s not a big deal. But if you plan on holding it, you need round the clock surveillance for it and most of the time, it’s not even worth the effort.

I agree with the first part, but the second one is questionable because it conflicts with my personal opinions about SMC…

SMC flip more constantly where the servers have more coverage than down here where most servers have huge coverage gaps. Basically for us lower tiers, if you hold SMC through the prime time, you won it (unless one of the enemy servers have a night crew you do not, but that problably will cost you more than just SMC) since things will be quiet for long hours where the castle is likely to get supplies and upgrade without any danger… Many times I went to sleep with an enemy paper castle, to wake up with a Iron Wall and WP in the middle of EB.

there you go

Jeknar.6184:

SMC flip more constantly where the servers have more coverage than down here where most servers have huge coverage gaps. Basically for us lower tiers, if you hold SMC through the prime time, you won it (unless one of the enemy servers have a night crew you do not, but that problably will cost you more than just SMC) since things will be quiet for long hours where the castle is likely to get supplies and upgrade without any danger… Many times I went to sleep with an enemy paper castle, to wake up with a Iron Wall and WP in the middle of EB.

I think it was yesterday that DR had fortified walls on SM with cannons done. Yet there was only a few to defend. 2 awesome players from GoM got the walls down with trebs then the gathered a few others and went on the gate. When I got there, the gate was nearly down xD.

SM needs constant attention from players that actually know what to do. If on GoM we can’t even hold OW, we will only hold SM if the other servers are scared of taking it.

bokunocarrie.7215:

Jeknar.6184:

I agree with the first part, but the second one is questionable because it conflicts with my personal opinions about SMC…

SMC flip more constantly where the servers have more coverage than down here where most servers have huge coverage gaps. Basically for us lower tiers, if you hold SMC through the prime time, you won it (unless one of the enemy servers have a night crew you do not, but that problably will cost you more than just SMC) since things will be quiet for long hours where the castle is likely to get supplies and upgrade without any danger… Many times I went to sleep with an enemy paper castle, to wake up with a Iron Wall and WP in the middle of EB.

there you go, i made a fix because I have no arguments to continue this discussion

You missed a few words…

ToaLux.6478:

arKRazor.8654:

ToaLux.6478:

Well, my guild is/was having fun on ET’s bl, and I got a bit carried away.. as usual..

You could call it casual WvW at its finest. I believe I went through over 200 blueprints; by the end of it, my arms were so sore that they were stuck holding imaginary siege..

Thanks to everyone who played along, didn’t yell at me, and made it generally enjoyable

A mention of SO in pic 3

<3

Haha, correct! He was telling me about how SO was beating up some guild that he was also terrorizing, I believe, in case you were wondering

Wow good eye HP, didn’t even notice that O_O …definitely loving this match up and all the awesome fights were getting from both ET and GoM!

Developing new players and new toons so there will be some upticks from DR. No one wants to run around the PVE maps and craft , click, craft, click their way to 80. Might as well have them on map making what impact they can.

Afraid to log in, anyone able to tell me how badly they butchered the Ranger with the last patch, slogging through the woe is me stuff on the ranger board is just pretty tedious.

irishhaf.1692:

Afraid to log in, anyone able to tell me how badly they butchered the Ranger with the last patch, slogging through the woe is me stuff on the ranger board is just pretty tedious.

I’ve probably seen more rangers tonight then I’ve had in the past 8 months… So I’m guessing you didn’t get nurfed to bad.

Was it bring your thief to EB day GoM? Their were so many heart seekers flying around my screen at one point I had to record it all to try to get a head count… It look like a kitten musical with you kittens flying all over the place. Not to mention I’ve never seen my combat log filled to 3 pages worth of heart seekers… I’m actually quite impressed.

Lekai.1429:

Was it bring your thief to EB day GoM? Their were so many heart seekers flying around my screen at one point I had to record it all to try to get a head count… It look like a kitten musical with you kittens flying all over the place. Not to mention I’ve never seen my combat log filled to 3 pages worth of heart seekers… I’m actually quite impressed.

2-2-2-2-2-2-2-2

Can you handle it?

In doubt, press 2-2-2 again, to be sure.

Jeknar.6184:

Happy Wintersday GoM!

Yeah hmm Tuesday afternoon right? New PvE content and GoM WvW pop drops to nothing. So do it another day and at a time when we have close to even numbers.

Crunk n monkey.3749:

EricL.5861:

Good fight GOM in your hills tonight. Was a lot of fun. You guys are good and bunkering down that is for sure.

Wasn’t ready for that portal bomb. But we had fun too.

Yeah that was some fun fighting alright.

Well dr had most of its remaining guilds decide to disband transfer or quit completely. Right now it looks like last one out the door remember turn out the lights. Oh and pve content came out so what very little population the server has left is doing that. Still considered high population though thanks anet.

Reminder!!!

Fight Night Thursday night at 5pm server time in Obsidian Sanctum!

Chuck Zitto.2367:

Well dr had most of its remaining guilds decide to disband transfer or quit completely. Right now it looks like last one out the door remember turn out the lights. Oh and pve content came out so what very little population the server has left is doing that. Still considered high population though thanks anet.

Maybe they are just taking a break. Hope it is just a temporary thing.