Guild Wars 2

Hebril Amolebin.9817:

So Wl back you get Js morning guilds and still oh no VZ cant win ect…
Come on bring your zone blobs we are bored we only raiding 2 days a week because no challenge and we win so much…
And honestly claiming VZ done something for wvw scene? only thing you did it zerging and Pvd nothing more …..And to be happy with this is just pity.

Well dude, I am not your friend you see. So lose the attitude.
I did not come here with personal attacks or judgements on your person.

I, for one, and many others on Vizu are very happy with what we did on the WvW scene for a year. (notice I use “on the wvw scene” and not “for the wvw scene”, words have meaning).
You disagreeing with me is not an option : I’m not asking for your opinion.

You “wining so much” is great. I am honnestly happy that you finally get to know the feeling. You “raiding only 2 days a week” is absolutely not interesting to the discussion. We do not care. At all. Not even a second.

There is no such thing as JS morning guilds, stop with the rumors, and check your income. The only ones PVDing and zerging between 3.00AM and 6.00PM are you. MoS website is not lying, even if it’s French.

I suggest 3 pills of Chillax, two times a day. For the next few months. You’re going to overheat from the hate mate, it’s not good.

No need to play this game troma, you are well aware that a lot of us sfr love playing against you and you don’t have to play more on your image of being humble and nice. It’s getting old just stop responding to hate already.

90% of our forum warriors are from the same guild so stop taking their words as “sfr opinion” like the aurora guy did. It’s sad to see you stoop to this level and make us look worse to make you look better.

His point was to make some people stop the bullkitten about Canadians or JS guilds.
I’m pretty sure he doesn’t care about looking better.

I’m not playing on a image of humble and nice. I trully think like this (=irl same vision) and sometimes an idiot to fall in trolls. I never wanted to make you look worse to make us look better;

But i thought sfr forum warriors could change, a year after. The Junkpile, Hebril, and others, will never change i admit now.

See you ig

Troma.3250:

But i thought sfr forum warriors could change, a year after. The Junkpile, Hebril, and others, will never change i admit now.

They will change. When they will come of age in few years.

Imagine the matchup threads being comradery and respect for each others performances! Would be a crazy sight

and a boring sight

Idno checking the forums to see “omg u blobbling blobbers” “no u” “server x only win on numbers no skill” “no ur server y is fail we wipe you 100% all day even ur guild blobs r fail” is just sad

1/ well done sfr, you clearly deserve your victory, you play well, you are organized, and you have a good coverage
2/ the reason why vizu is weak now stem for several reasons
- people are doing pve to up their weapons ! the farming has to be done in pve, sadly
- when the match up is tough, people tends to avoid big fights with a high wipe probability, we had so often easy ones, they tend to be lazy now…
- mcm rewards are very very low, the successes are just impossible to do, so to get the success rewards and nice chests, pve is the way !

right now it is very rare to find full maps on prime time ! even eb ! it s a vicious circle, we are less, so we wipe more , so we are less …
anyway, i hope when everyone is 500 in weapon skills this will change, meanwhile, you will probably have no opponents to challenge your first position

necrotic kisses from vizunah

Holm.7058:

Imagine the matchup threads being comradery and respect for each others performances! Would be a crazy sight

They were, against Aurora.
Very nice people : friendly, aware of their strengths and weaknesses, quite objective about the situation.
Oh and, not a single bad apple.

I can’t ever imagine, that i can talk such thing, but here we go:

“I miss VS so much”

great week, great fights, great sieges and defences.

I love to play against servers, who can give us thing, that we like most at www – massive fights.
And RS and VS bring it to us.

Thank you, guys.
Keep it on.

romainette.2369:

the farming has to be done in pve, sadly

<- 430 dragonite from www (almost, maybe 1 or 2 golems), almost done my pink hammer of love.

Fanfaron.6109:

romainette.2369:

the farming has to be done in pve, sadly

<- 430 dragonite from www (almost, maybe 1 or 2 golems), almost done my pink hammer of love.

Of course you can farm pink in WvW but it takes 10 times much longer, and it is not normal imo.

Troma.3250:

But i thought sfr forum warriors could change, a year after. The Junkpile, Hebril, and others, will never change i admit now.

Dont forget kingface!

But ya, good matchup i am really suprised by the force RS has.
And for the love of good can this dragon event be over already, everytime its dragontime we loose ever keep/tower we got in borderlands, there are more people on teamspeak when its dragon time then when we raid in prime…^_^

DarkieDuck.9521:

Dont forget kingface!

Breaking news! I’m on SFR right now.

Should I report you for insult?

I count the Kingface big lamer too

Ok anyway, the tournament will be bloody. Oh god.

Kingface.9781:

DarkieDuck.9521:

Dont forget kingface!

Should I report you for insult?

You could try that

Leorcyn.1063:

Wolfheart.1938:

you are already making up excuses.

You proved you could win with bigger numbers and better coverage.

I am not making excuses for Vizu, I am not a spokesperson for the server. Please jump on someone else.
I am just giving you my honnest analysis of the situation – did not say I like it.

Oh, and, like it or not, you are now the “bigger numbers and bigger coverage” server, the one that is despised because it makes points in the day and loses everything during european prime.
Enjoy your time in the hate-spotlight.

You are not VS spokeperson but Troma is and I’ve already seen similar posts from him. Oh no, we are farming for ascended (every server does), we kill Taco (we probably killed him more than you), we feel happy with what we’ve done in WvW (so instead of a grand finale you decide to stop right aftern the first season…yeah). It may be true or not, I’ll never know, but to me they seem excuses. Not that I wanted to jump on anyone, just telling you my opinion.

And yes I do know we field more players right now (I implied it in my post), that’s why a win right now would prove a lot more than 10 wins against loldesolation & 3h queue-SFR.

But I don’t blame you guys, WvW is a game won by numbers and coverage primarily and apparently we have more (though yesterday prime time we didn’t even have queue for two maps).

i hope the warr that jump on my guardian corpse near briar vs bl this afternoon was satisfied after getting killed by me 3+ times

Quote thoses posts from me, because i never did. He made a clear analysis of the actual Vizunah, and be sure we have a lot of work after this summer (karmatrain + people who do not care about server pride…)

When a ennemy admit his flaw, you could just listen to it instead of going for “it’s an excuse”

Here’s a quote. Not exactly what I quoted (that came from other VS posters) but still quite close.

“Dunno if it’s already over, but VS has clearly a lot less people than SFR 3.0, right now. We didn’t make recruit campaign, lost people over time, and didn’t have reinforcements”

Listen to it =/= trust whatever someone says blindly. I just asked a question, if the answers don’t seem rational to me I won’t accept them. All of your issues, we have too. For example, don’t you think we have the same amount (or maybe more?) of useless bandwagoners?

Edit: at the end of they day I think it’s too early to start discussions like these. We aren’t even day 1 in the league.

Whoever thinks VS will not be at full-power in the league has clearly not played against them long enough

SFR old-timers know oh-so-well…

Oh boy, i hope you are ready for disappointement

When league start viz will have 300 longbow ranger blob in every map 24/7. There is two ways to beat them. Every sfr player need to quit their jobs, buy caffeine pills and adult diapers (some probably could use normal diapers) and kick wife and children out of house. Other more efficient way is clone Wemil 80 times.

@ [ppp] and [bla] of sfr
you really have to compensate something, do you?

GG SFR you were very strong this week, we had a lot of good fights , Good luck in your next matchs.

Compensate what? That this was one of the most boring weeks lately again. At least some more fights but zone blobing and lags,.. And that even people are switching to other games just because wvw is the same and even worse than before… And league will make it even worse? 1 good raid for the whole week. GG I cant wait for ESO to get out on the market.

gg back to you vizunah, you are our favourite enemy, there’s never a dull moment fighting you! Thanks for the matchup after some very quiet weeks this was a very action packed one

Blacksmoke.5792:

GG SFR you were very strong this week, we had a lot of good fights , Good luck in your next matchs.

not really.

our server is dying slowly some hours.

at the moment our homeland as you can see we got pretty much nobody on teamspeak and all guild raids have ended and we still got que.

while your server got pretty much most WvW Players on teamspeak respect you for that.

we are pretty much the strongest server because we have so many guilds we are op most hours but still-.- we need to dump so many pugs xD:)

Well the pug problem and queue with few on teamspeak is pretty much a direct result of the last few weeks – if you take it easy for a couple weeks new players come and try it out in their small guilds. After a while they have formed their own ts, speak their own language and just ignore the bleating in chat about getting on the server ts as they can’t understand any of it anyway.

The ‘no tags in BL, they are for guild raids, etc’ has also encouraged the formation of a lot of solo roamers, new players, people levelling alts in wvw, as well as farming emp frags, and smaller teams wondering around the map. The funniest was when they announced ‘the community’ had decided that there should be no tags in EB for a couple days- see how well that turned out…

The problem is that the ‘leet’ guilds seem to think all these people are a problem, and spend their time insulting them or saying they need to get rid of them, rather than seeing them as potential additions.

People like someone to follow- if no one tags up the pugs don’t leave, they just become less effective as they will go do their own thing or even stand around (Teq style- stand around for a couple hours doing something else) waiting for a tag to appear, but not wanting to relog in case there is a queue to get back in.

Now people need to realise that these people need integrating into the system (even if some can’t get on ts) and be properly utilised. That’s if the consensus is that we should be playing the points game in the league a little more than at present.

If I see some uplevelled newbie running around obviously using a bad skill set/weapon set/bad positioning I’ll take a few seconds or minutes and whisper them with a few suggestions if they are willing to listen- not insist they join the server ts or gtfo.

Everyone was new once- try reaching out and embracing them rather than shunning them.

Was checking chemsorly stream after we finished our raid … never though we look that evil group of red names stomping faces

Choo Choo motherkitteners

Wemil.7052:

not really.

our server is dying slowly some hours.

Well, I do not see anyone able to compete with your “slowly dying” server atm. So I guess we’d all like to be dying like you are :p

Nice week SFR, you seem to be ready for the tourney ; and I was well impressed with Riv’s performance as well ! Keep it up everyone

Victory.2879:

Well the pug problem and queue with few on teamspeak is pretty much a direct result of the last few weeks – if you take it easy for a couple weeks new players come and try it out in their small guilds. After a while they have formed their own ts, speak their own language and just ignore the bleating in chat about getting on the server ts as they can’t understand any of it anyway.

The ‘no tags in BL, they are for guild raids, etc’ has also encouraged the formation of a lot of solo roamers, new players, people levelling alts in wvw, as well as farming emp frags, and smaller teams wondering around the map. The funniest was when they announced ‘the community’ had decided that there should be no tags in EB for a couple days- see how well that turned out…

The problem is that the ‘leet’ guilds seem to think all these people are a problem, and spend their time insulting them or saying they need to get rid of them, rather than seeing them as potential additions.

People like someone to follow- if no one tags up the pugs don’t leave, they just become less effective as they will go do their own thing or even stand around (Teq style- stand around for a couple hours doing something else) waiting for a tag to appear, but not wanting to relog in case there is a queue to get back in.

Now people need to realise that these people need integrating into the system (even if some can’t get on ts) and be properly utilised. That’s if the consensus is that we should be playing the points game in the league a little more than at present.

If I see some uplevelled newbie running around obviously using a bad skill set/weapon set/bad positioning I’ll take a few seconds or minutes and whisper them with a few suggestions if they are willing to listen- not insist they join the server ts or gtfo.

Everyone was new once- try reaching out and embracing them rather than shunning them.

Victory you did it again, great post and deserve that I break my promise. There is a lot more to say, I just put it in one phrase. ”Play the game first, and then try to give orders to others”. No tag policy was very effective, we run with 6 tags at the same time on first day, far from our record of 14.

I’m getting every day more proud of our players in EB map.

Many thanks to the VS and Riverside players that had visited EB map, I recall a fight where FF guild from VS was, great fight. Many thanks to all of you because you are a real challenge and that make us grow.

We are going to win this one, but next week if we get VS again they also can win, this was a bad week that not reflects the quality of their server.

PS: And yes Wemil is correct wen he says that we are dying slowly some hours, a good subject for a server meeting (try to do the next not in prime time, because many of us can’t be there, wen I’m not, Shadow or Kresh can be my voice).

I did enjoy the new Riverside server idd thank you for the fights. Vizunah is Vizunah, looking forward for all your french canadians and stuff during the league

Vizunah square finally loosing in a week they are not chilling (no excuse at all to loose now, it’s purely your own fault vizu). Sorry but my evil part is superior satisfied. You guys taunted fate so long with cheap wins, with zerg abusing, lag abusing coverage abusing, but in neither of these aspect you excelled. You just had the luck no other server could set up nightcrew competition. And here we are SFR made it. And the only reason sfr is so strong, is because ppl hate your cheap wins vizu, they want it to stop.

I know this will probably offend the few good vizu (non pug) players/roamers/guilds, and kuddos to you, all servers have good/excellent people. However majority of vizu isn’t very skilled. (fought them enough to know it, we see you more then you see your own ppl you know, since we meet you every time we had to defend outnumbered).

And troma, calling SFR arrogant (i must admit some of their players are though), is stupid. Vizunah square FINALLY lost. Finally justice (it’s not like you didnt deserve a big defeat in 1 year wvw). And then you come with posts like this? C’mon man, you are more mature then that, mr ‘united wvw nation’-president. (this is a compliment to your diplomatic skills) Other servers (deso for instance), felt like this for months, and you have 1 bad week and you act like this. Then you come ’it’s deso fault they cant build community’ right… XD 1 week defeat/drama and troma = not dimplomatic, imagine how kitten ed you would be after 12 weeks defeats. Right, so much you don’t care to play anymore. And the luck that other server suffered this fate, was your boon to succes. And keeping disagreeing on this made me kitten ed. It’s why my evil side shortly got the better of me to come with a post to show im satisfied the vizu-show is over.

I have respect for vizu. What i don’t like is their arrogance in the ‘we deserve’ our victory. You don’t. Vizu was lucky, to find the first nightcrew available. That overpowered them. Vizu was lucky to crush the enemies moral by this, and become stronger by just doing the same. Vizu was lucky to have Troma & co as drama solver, while other servers didn’t. But purely wvw talking, purely skill speaking, pure strategy speaking, vizu ain’t top tire. You never were. Even servers like elona/piken square/riverside, SFR, perhaps even kodash (got much better roamers then vizu), would win based on skill/strategy facts.

This post may offend you guys, but a lot of players feel it, and it’s satisfying to post it. Perhaps vizunah square will finally have to deal with trouble other server had to deal with from day 1. Finally equal weapons. May the real battle finally begin after a year.

While i dislike part of SFR’s community attitude (then again all servers have bad apples), i’m still gratefull to the server for teaching vizunah square a lesson in being the underdog. Thank you SFR, keep it up.

@ sfr, please beat vizu in the league, that will temper their false feelings of ’deserved victories.

Unless vizu has 60+blob on all borders at nighttime to make us tick +5 they’re chilling. This week we had more coverage than vizunah so in truth it’s still a matter of coverage.

And vizu has always been so nice to their opponent congratulating them if they win I don’t know why people can’t give them the same respect back.

Holm.7058:

Unless vizu has 60+blob on all borders at nighttime to make us tick +5 they’re chilling. This week we had more coverage than vizunah so in truth it’s still a matter of coverage.

And vizu has always been so nice to their opponent congratulating them if they win I don’t know why nolife educated by a sow can’t give them the same respect back.

fixed

@Demanu: i repeat it since 1 year, i will do it again: no canadian guilds on VS, only few players (5-6)

@Phoebe: Well… i do not understand some parts of your post. I never said SFR are all arrogant, i said, and precise it, SOME players bash us everytime, always the same Guys like Holm, Ridafyt, and others are really good guys.

Like Holm said, we congratulate opponent when we loose too, in the past i put a Vercingetorix dawn on his knee when SFR won for example. Other Vizunians say gg too, even the Kingface lamer. Do you imagine Hebril, Junkpile or Fanfa saying gg one day? the day when fifilepetitguerrier become a great general maybe yeah… like never.

Your Vizunah vision is true on some points, but on others… if you only knew all the work we had to do… it’s not just a matter of coverage. It’s a matter of keeping players together, with the same goal and passion. It’s a matter of hard work, strategy, communication, diplomacy and Vs commanders doing sacrifices.

You do not realize we have no canadians or external help and our players sometimes play 15+ hour in a day for the server. Like others do 5-6h in a row of scout, of dolyak kill/escort… or roaming guild like FY, RUN do a great job.
It’s like an ant organization. But from the outside, it’s just a zerg+coverage…
We will never be understood really i think. Thats life.

We dont need a lesson Phoebe, Blacktide and SFR 2.0 already teach us what a very powerful enemys is.

Good luck everyone dear enemys, because without you, all this RvR would be dead and not fun at all…

Yin and Yang, SFR and Vizu? sure it is.

Troma.3250:

Other Vizunians say gg too, even the Kingface lamer.

I did… was sick but I did.

People like you work hard. That’s the other side of the coin. I admire you for that. However the people i meet on the field show: lazyness. sorry to put it so blunt.

To give some examples why i have a very bad impression of ‘skillset’ of vizu:

Vizu has more upleveled that any server i met. When the match is serious, my guild doesn’t allow it, and they are right so (in offpeak we are allowed but that’s different story). sorry but this shows more ‘i want easy glory’, then ’i’m putting everything aside for my server’-attitude.

Vizu run more away then any server. Sometimes with commander it’s a wise fallback. Other times it’s just admitting you are not good enough (with more ppl then opponent ironicly so). doesn’t give you an aura of ‘skilled’.

I know keeps/towers better then anybody, i know exaclty how big aoe’s are, and where they can hit. You can always seem to somehow cheat the rules and place Ac’s in spot where meteor shower should hit them, but in fact it doenst hit them. Dunno how you guys do it but this feels cheap, is this one of vizu’s secret War strategies/advantages?

In primetime vizu rarely ticks +300. A good server also sometimes makes a big difference in primetime. Vizu rarely does this with good servers matched against them.

i’ve rarely seen vizu takes big objectives (waypointed keeps) without golems. Golems just show how much money you have. Secondly it shows how much overpowered nightcrew is. vizu ALWAYS keeps waypointed keeps at night, and 1700 supply piles. Other servers LOOSE IT all. They can’t fight back, nor cheat with golems. Thirdly If we empty a keep to 0/1700 supply, magically they always have backup keep where they keep spamming the waypoint to, to get supply in. This doesn’t really show skill. Yes I admit, it shows a bit of wisdom. However the opponent has absolutely no counter this, in the current wvw setting. Why does vizu always have to rely to ‘enemy can’t counter this’-strategies? Do something special please too. There’s more to wvw then hiding between mechanics. And there comes my final point.

You guys don’t fight for fun. The game is about fun. Running away isn’t fun. Fighting without resistance isn’t fun. No challenge isn’t fun. When i’m alone facing a vizu zerg, vizu will pin me down faster then any server out there. they must and shall kill me. Wich brings me to the conclusion, only reward matters (wxp, karma, money, exp, drops). Everybody cares for loot, but vizu cares more about it then other servers. At some point you guys were loosing t3 tower. I showed behind your zerg (away from the tower up). Almost every single person in the zerg, changed course to kill me. I gave you a hell of a challenge to kill me, when you finally killed me, we took your pretty t3 tower. Seriously other server rarely make this kind of mistake (some players always play like this, but rarely a whole BL zerg).

You may see yourself as a good server or disagree with these points, but after a year playing there’s no dying that in these points you are WORSE then other servers. And I am not allowed to have a bad impression about you then? Hmmm. SFR defeated me many times, too, yet somehow i respect their win more then yours. Your hard work and that of a few other vizunians won’t change that. The pugs remain pugs, incredibly selfish. Vizu ones are the worst ones. Maybe your next goal should be to entangle them more, so your reputation doesn’t go downhill this much.

Ah yep, i see of course what you mean. Yes, it’s true: too much people no resistant, dying insta; bad stuff, bad templates. Too much fleeing people too ! of course it’s true. But it’s not everyone, it’s random like a lot of thing in this massive PvP mode. Sometimes there is godly players, sometimes beginners. The turnover is so huge.

I was choked when i came back and i saw WARRIORS and GUARDIANS fleeing ! with gun/staff ! while the casters were killed in running… it was a scene of total horror for me. Thats why i created http://www.grandcross.fr/knights

Our mission is now to help people getting good stuff, builds, advices. Green arrow, fleeing and zerk stuff for tournament would be terrible. I could get angry at this myself. But i will never force people thats my vision.

In the attached gif, here is my head when i see 20 VS insta dying in a impact versus enemy.

Btw i’m not saying every vizu is bad. This is just a global server impression. I know there’s commanders that work hard, you guys usually respond to treats very fast. (wich means fast communication), and you guys do better dolyak escorting then most servers. xD So ofc it’s not all bad.

SFR should create a sort of [GCK] to protect the guild [MooN] against pug outnumbered. Really, they need. : ’)

Troma.3250:

Do you imagine Hebril, Junkpile or Fanfa saying gg one day? the day when fifilepetitguerrier become a great general maybe yeah… like never.

Fanfaron did say good match just a few post earlier!

Troma.3250:

Guys like Holm, Ridafyt, and others are really good guys.

You forgot Wolfheart, but I forgive you. See you tonight after the queues die off!

Leorcyn.1063:

Wemil.7052:

not really.

our server is dying slowly some hours.

Well, I do not see anyone able to compete with your “slowly dying” server atm. So I guess we’d all like to be dying like you are :p

Nice week SFR, you seem to be ready for the tourney ; and I was well impressed with Riv’s performance as well ! Keep it up everyone

before the thread is gone and lost just wanted to point out what I meant with dying.

some hours not saying which hours exactly we have new raid leader because the rest going bed or slacking and they start a new raid in a border with que and almost no pugs those hours want to join ts that shows we have new comers to sfr that don’t now kitten what to do-.-

last days gone better so gonna hope we don’t get overblowed those hours when league start<3

would be said to lose fully upgraded sm when map jump squad cant go in there because of que<3

<3 <3 <3

Yeah rly <3