Guild Wars 2

When I go into WvW, I pour every ounce of effort into building a character that can survive a CnD, backstab, 12k, one-two punch.

Basically if my character cannot kill, or run away from a backstab thief, I refuse to play it. So in my eyes, better than half of the classes in this game, are garbage.

…if you can’t, at least, run back to the zerg, then what’s the point?

So who are all these people complaining about conditions? ..and what’s a “meta”?

-Warriors use melandrus and lemon grass food. so they don’t care.

-Guards…. most people trip over themselves chasing down those freekills, so dying to condi’s is no big deal for them.

-if a mesmer wanted to, they could press a button and cure 2 conditions, 6 times. As well as fields and phantasms, so I don’t think they care. (besides those portal kittenes are too busy being useless thief food)

-eles, pop water, don’t care.

-huntards have a water heal

-engis have a water heal (stop crying engis, you’re fine)

-thieves lose a condition every three seconds in stealth

…so that’s everyone, but necros, and besides their heal and offhand dagger, they have the hardest time dealing with conditions, since they have to fight the longest (attrition), so they get condi-bombed the most.

In fact, if I could afford them, I’d have melandru runes on my necro, since it’s the one class that I play that has trouble dealing with condis.

Ezeriel.9574:

…so that’s everyone, but necros, and besides their heal and offhand dagger, they have the hardest time dealing with conditions, since they have to fight the longest (attrition), so they get condi-bombed the most.

Dagger 4, Staff 4, Consume Conditions, Signet of Plague, Facetank condi damage with Deathshroud.

Necros what?

Jeknar.6184:

Ezeriel.9574:

…so that’s everyone, but necros, and besides their heal and offhand dagger, they have the hardest time dealing with conditions, since they have to fight the longest (attrition), so they get condi-bombed the most.

Dagger 4, Staff 4, Consume Conditions, Signet of Plague, Facetank condi damage with Deathshroud.

Necros what?

Necros don’t get conditions. They get ammo.

I was going to make a point by point rebuttal…. but this post is so absurdly ill-informed, it’s just not worth trying.

If you don’t understand already that veggie pizza cancels out lemongrass, that all classes are capable of fighting backstab thieves if played properly, and that necros are one of the best classes in the game for dealing with conditions, nothing any of us can say will make a difference.

“Meta” is short for “metagame.” In this context, it refers to a set of strategies that are considered viable or optimal by competitively-minded players.

Eze is trolling.

@OP:

Most people don’t roam around. They fight as part of a zerg. Try it sometime and watch how many condis get added to you. It doesn’t matter how much condi removal you have since they can automatically be reapplied. That causes most people to run food that will reduce condi duration.

Condi is OP at the moment. That is true even for roaming.

style.6173:

@OP:

Most people don’t roam around. They fight as part of a zerg. Try it sometime and watch how many condis get added to you. It doesn’t matter how much condi removal you have since they can automatically be reapplied. That causes most people to run food that will reduce condi duration.

Condi is OP at the moment. That is true even for roaming.

The damaging conditions you pick up tend to be incidental adds from skills people are running in Power builds.

The duration reduction is a way of dealing with controlling conditions, which those Power builds can use just as effectively as Condition Damage builds. Weakness, poison, cripple, chill, immobilize. You want to keep your damage output up, you want to keep incoming healing going, and you want to stay mobile so you don’t get squished.

OP has never roamed. Way too obvious.

If you’re not running SA thief, you have very little chance against condi builds. There’s just no way to counter 5+ conditions being applied every second by engis and necros and condi PU mesmers, or avoid power PU mesmer’s burst while mitigating the constant cripples (actually, that’s a little easier than trying to deal with damaging condi and challenging in a fun way, if not a little frustrating when it doesn’t work out in your favour)

Reverence.6915:

OP has never roamed. Way too obvious.

If you’re not running SA thief, you have very little chance against condi builds. There’s just no way to counter 5+ conditions being applied every second by engis and necros and condi PU mesmers, or avoid power PU mesmer’s burst while mitigating the constant cripples (actually, that’s a little easier than trying to deal with damaging condi and challenging in a fun way, if not a little frustrating when it doesn’t work out in your favour)

How can they apply condition every second when they can’t even see you 90% of time?

Junkpile.7439:

Reverence.6915:

OP has never roamed. Way too obvious.

If you’re not running SA thief, you have very little chance against condi builds. There’s just no way to counter 5+ conditions being applied every second by engis and necros and condi PU mesmers, or avoid power PU mesmer’s burst while mitigating the constant cripples (actually, that’s a little easier than trying to deal with damaging condi and challenging in a fun way, if not a little frustrating when it doesn’t work out in your favour)

How can they apply condition every second when they can’t even see you 90% of time?

Considering both of those classes have AoE conditions, stealth won’t matter. It doesn’t make you invulnerable.

DonkeyHaxor.4052:

Considering both of those classes have AoE conditions, stealth won’t matter. It doesn’t make you invulnerable.

you must be a pretty bad thief if you cant avoid at least some of those AoE conditions while they cant see you