Guild Wars 2

Thank you Obly for making this post. I left GW2 3 weeks after launch because of this insane DR system. My reason for not liking it was mainly due to the exp nerf on DE’s which made leveling a character extremely unpleasant for me.

Regardless I am happy you point out it is still going strong so I know not to bother wasting my time with this game anytime soon.

I’m just curious after reading Jon’s reply and those of others.

Are bots that sophisticated that they can complete event chains now? The reason I ask is Jon states that “farmers = GOOD”, so unless bots are able to complete event chains I don’t understand why the DR system penalizes those of us who participate in events.

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I just want to restate that as a level 20 player with limited time (see my post on page 2) it not only affects karma, but I also get a dramatically reduced exp reward. This is making my limited playtime a nightmare to even try and get to 80 and embark on this “legendary” journey.

Lol I read your post on page 2, your personal life mimics mine.

So how do you know your getting diminished rewards? I’ve leveled for hours and never noticed it. But I don’t watch xp like that I just play so I might be missing something. Do you get a visual debuff or you just get less xp or something?

I first noticed it when doing the fire elemental boss in Metrica province. It was quite an epic fight actually and we finally finished it, but instead of the normal 400 to 500 exp I was getting I got 34. The only reason I even noticed is because the event was so epic I took note to see if the reward was any more than the normal amount. This was the first time I noticed the issue. It isn’t uncommon for me to close the window without paying attention, but since then I have been keeping a close eye on all the rewards.

I just want to restate that as a level 20 player with limited time (see my post on page 2) it not only affects karma, but I also get a dramatically reduced exp reward. This is making my limited playtime a nightmare to even try and get to 80 and embark on this “legendary” journey.

That series of pics Edenknight posted is an event chain and it can happen rather quick if you have a nice sized group. If you notice his first pic shows the full reward, and all the remaining ones show the reduced reward for the events that follow in the chain. Apparently the reduction occurred while they were in the process of doing the chain.

The thread I originally posted in was closed and we were told to move over here so I just want to throw my 2 cents in if I may.

I have read quite a few comments stating this only affects high levels or people who farm. Well, I can say from experience that this is not the case.
My level 20 Necro was finishing up the map in Metrica province and was hit with the DR stick in less than an hour of gameplay.

I am a 46 yo husband and father who is lucky enough to have a wife and kids that give me a few hours uninterrupted once or twice a week to enjoy gaming. It is extremely frustrating to sit down with my office door closed and my cup of joe in hand expecting to spend some time leveling my character only to be hit with this insane system.

I do not feel it is acceptable to punish people who are actively playing the game regardless of how they choose to enjoy it. When I am able to sit down and enjoy a few hours of game time it is unacceptable to me to be punished so that I must change activities or modify my playstyle to accommodate some DR system.

I want to clarify that for me being level 20 and trying to level my first toon to 80 it affects me with a greatly reduced experience reward as well. For me it isn’t all about the karma, but I imagine it will be eventually if this gets sorted out. I am swiftly losing my desire to try and level my toon with these unnecessary restrictions in place.

I hope it is just a bug as well. BTW, I want to clarify that for me being level 20 and trying to level my first toon to 80 it affects me with a greatly reduced experience reward as well. For me it isn’t all about the karma, but I imagine it will be eventually if this gets sorted out. I am swiftly losing my desire to try and level my toon with these unnecessary restrictions in place.

I just want to throw my 2 cents in. I have read quite a few comments stating this only affects high levels or people who farm. Well, I can say from experience that this is not the case.

My level 20 Necro was finishing up the map in Metrica province and was hit with the DR stick in less than an hour of gameplay.

I am a 46 yo husband and father who is lucky enough to have a wife and kids that give me a few hours uninterrupted once or twice a week to enjoy gaming. It is extremely frustrating to sit down with my office door closed and my cup of joe in hand expecting to spend some time leveling my character only to be hit with this insane system.

I do not feel it is acceptable to punish people who are actively playing the game regardless of how they choose to enjoy it. When I am able to sit down and enjoy a few hours of game time it is unacceptable to me to be punished so that I must change activities or modify my playstyle to accommodate some DR system.

I really have no further comment on this as I still feel Anet needs to explain why this system is in place. Until they do it is all speculation on our part. I will say though that the lack of communication is disheartening. A company should be willing to engage it’s consumers at every opportunity so it can continue to provide a quality product.

Well, I just hit the DE diminishing returns issue today twice on my level 19 necro. As an older player with a wife and kids I don’t have alot of time to devote to the game, and when I do have a day I can spend a few hours this is extremely discouraging. I understand the need to address botting/farming, but there needs to be a system that doesn’t penalize the average player.

I agree with Alric this does need to be looked at and possibly fixed. Why would you get a skill from the trait tree that is only effective at short range when the tree you’re getting it from is listed as the Marksmanship tree with the description “Marksmanship is a trait line for the ranger that focuses on long range damage and the use of signets.”?