Guild Wars 2

Ayrilana.1396:

Almeida.6458:

Ayrilana.1396:

Almeida.6458:

Ayrilana.1396:

Almeida.6458:

Ashen.2907:

Almeida.6458:

in my opinion PLAYERS THAT SUPPORTED THE GAME SINCE ITS LAUNCH ARE GETTING SHAFTED.

Fixed that for you.

I too am passing on the expansion, not because of some idea of it being a, “scumbag move,” because charging for the product you spent millions of dollars developing is not a scumbag move, but because the expansion doesn’t really have anything worth paying for IMO.

Yes, I’m sharing my opinion on the matter. And as far as I’m concerned, yes it is a scumbag move. Of course they have to charge, but it wouldn’t kill their launch if either the previous owners of GW2 got a discount on the expansion, or there was an option to buy the expansion NOT INCLUDING THE CORE GAME.

Yes, this is a move that’s getting more and more common in the games industry. Still, it doesn’t make it any less of a scumbag move.

You can buy the expansion without the core game right now. It’s $50.

No game franchise has ever given discounts to existing players otherwise it would be no different than just marking it down completely to the lower price.

Let me point you out to Elder Scrolls Online, for example, that on their move to f2p gave several compensations to existing players that would continue the subscription to “ESO Plus”, as well as compensation for everyone that had a subscription even if they wouldn’t continue with it.

Stating that “No game franchise has ever given discounts to existing players” is just spreading misinformation to suit your opinion on the matter.

Compensation is not the same as discount. If you look at your post, you’ll see you were talking about price. There’s no spreading of misinformation by me. Just you changing things around to suit your argument.

Because a compensation that has monetary value (in ESO case, the cash shop currency amongst other things) is abismally different from a discount (that has—you guessed it—monetary value), right?

If you want to discuss semantics, do it with someone else, buddy o/

There is a difference between a price discount and offering something such as a free character slot. There’s also a difference between offering an item at a direct discount versus the discount being in store credit.

Semantics!

Ayrilana.1396:

Almeida.6458:

Ayrilana.1396:

Almeida.6458:

Ashen.2907:

Almeida.6458:

in my opinion PLAYERS THAT SUPPORTED THE GAME SINCE ITS LAUNCH ARE GETTING SHAFTED.

Fixed that for you.

I too am passing on the expansion, not because of some idea of it being a, “scumbag move,” because charging for the product you spent millions of dollars developing is not a scumbag move, but because the expansion doesn’t really have anything worth paying for IMO.

Yes, I’m sharing my opinion on the matter. And as far as I’m concerned, yes it is a scumbag move. Of course they have to charge, but it wouldn’t kill their launch if either the previous owners of GW2 got a discount on the expansion, or there was an option to buy the expansion NOT INCLUDING THE CORE GAME.

Yes, this is a move that’s getting more and more common in the games industry. Still, it doesn’t make it any less of a scumbag move.

You can buy the expansion without the core game right now. It’s $50.

No game franchise has ever given discounts to existing players otherwise it would be no different than just marking it down completely to the lower price.

Let me point you out to Elder Scrolls Online, for example, that on their move to f2p gave several compensations to existing players that would continue the subscription to “ESO Plus”, as well as compensation for everyone that had a subscription even if they wouldn’t continue with it.

Stating that “No game franchise has ever given discounts to existing players” is just spreading misinformation to suit your opinion on the matter.

Compensation is not the same as discount. If you look at your post, you’ll see you were talking about price. There’s no spreading of misinformation by me. Just you changing things around to suit your argument.

Because a compensation that has monetary value (in ESO case, the cash shop currency amongst other things) is abismally different from a discount (that has—you guessed it—monetary value), right?

If you want to discuss semantics, do it with someone else, buddy o/

Ayrilana.1396:

Almeida.6458:

Ashen.2907:

Almeida.6458:

in my opinion PLAYERS THAT SUPPORTED THE GAME SINCE ITS LAUNCH ARE GETTING SHAFTED.

Fixed that for you.

I too am passing on the expansion, not because of some idea of it being a, “scumbag move,” because charging for the product you spent millions of dollars developing is not a scumbag move, but because the expansion doesn’t really have anything worth paying for IMO.

Yes, I’m sharing my opinion on the matter. And as far as I’m concerned, yes it is a scumbag move. Of course they have to charge, but it wouldn’t kill their launch if either the previous owners of GW2 got a discount on the expansion, or there was an option to buy the expansion NOT INCLUDING THE CORE GAME.

Yes, this is a move that’s getting more and more common in the games industry. Still, it doesn’t make it any less of a scumbag move.

You can buy the expansion without the core game right now. It’s $50.

No game franchise has ever given discounts to existing players otherwise it would be no different than just marking it down completely to the lower price.

Let me point you out to Elder Scrolls Online, for example, that on their move to f2p gave several compensations to existing players that would continue the subscription to “ESO Plus”, as well as compensation for everyone that had a subscription even if they wouldn’t continue with it.

Stating that “No game franchise has ever given discounts to existing players” is just spreading misinformation to suit your opinion on the matter.

Ashen.2907:

Almeida.6458:

in my opinion PLAYERS THAT SUPPORTED THE GAME SINCE ITS LAUNCH ARE GETTING SHAFTED.

Fixed that for you.

I too am passing on the expansion, not because of some idea of it being a, “scumbag move,” because charging for the product you spent millions of dollars developing is not a scumbag move, but because the expansion doesn’t really have anything worth paying for IMO.

Yes, I’m sharing my opinion on the matter. And as far as I’m concerned, yes it is a scumbag move. Of course they have to charge, but it wouldn’t kill their launch if either the previous owners of GW2 got a discount on the expansion, or there was an option to buy the expansion NOT INCLUDING THE CORE GAME.

Yes, this is a move that’s getting more and more common in the games industry. Still, it doesn’t make it any less of a scumbag move.

Zeross.3576:

I’m not gonna spend 45€ for a expansion that includes the vanilla content, since I already bought GW2 vanilla on 2012.
It doesn’t seem right, I mean new players get base game+expansion at the same price old players get only the expansion?
If it was half the price for players who already own GW2 then I would have understood and maybe have bought it, but at the moment it doesn’t look very appealing.
And 1 character’s slot surely doesn’t cover the overprice of the expansion, let’s not even joke about it.

Exactly my thoughts. Although I like the general direction the game is taking, with it going f2p bringing new players into the community, the fact is THE PLAYERS THAT SUPPORTED THE GAME SINCE ITS LAUNCH ARE GETTING SHAFTED.

GW2 has been the best MMO I’ve played by far, with its unique story progression, constant world events, and the way it does PvP.
But this is just spitting in the face of those that allowed ANet to get to this point. Those that allowed ANet to hold off the “Free to Play” business model for 3 full years.

I’ll probably pass on the expansion. It’s just too much of a scumbag move.