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Subscription-based Guild Wars 2

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GW2 is already sub based, it’s fee is:
(50 / x) USD a month where x is the number of months you plan to play the game.

Well, the difference is price certainty… but still, this is a good point. This entire discussion comes down to a single concern: value.

GW2 certainly gives you great value, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s more valuable than a subscription. Like you hinted at, if someone bought GW2 for $50, and only played it for a month, he’d get better ($/month) value out of buying a subscription game and playing for 6 months.

What sub game is that, where there’s no with no box price? And leave Freemium out of it.

I don’t know of any, but I don’t see your point either.

If you’re questioning my math here it is (I did say cost per month above):

GW2: 1 month at $50 = $50/month
Subscription Game: 6 months at $60 + $15×5 = $22.50/month

Value is inherent in how much you enjoy and use a thing. Just because something is cheap/free doesn’t mean it’s valuable. Some people might see great value in GW2, others may not… it’s an individual decision.

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Also, those people that claim “I don’t rent video games” as an argument against subscriptions are ignorant. If you bought GW2, then yes, you’re renting it… your access has an expiration date on it, just like any subscription. It’s just longer (which goes back to the value argument.)

Only partly true. I can play the game as long as the servers remain up, not until I stop handing over money. That’s where the rent analogy comes into it.

Sure, you’re talking about price certainty, which I also brought up in my post and has definitely has value to a great number of people.

But all you’re doing is basically paying up front for a lifetime sub because, in the end, you don’t “own the game” anymore than a subscriber owns their game. You’re “renting” it just as much as you’d “rent” a subscription game. The only difference is the actual cost and time (i.e. value).

Subscription-based Guild Wars 2

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GW2 is already sub based, it’s fee is:
(50 / x) USD a month where x is the number of months you plan to play the game.

Well, the difference is price certainty… but still, this is a good point. This entire discussion comes down to a single concern: value.

GW2 certainly gives you great value, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s more valuable than a subscription. Like you hinted at, if someone bought GW2 for $50, and only played it for a month, he’d get better ($/month) value out of buying a subscription game and playing for 6 months.

Also, those people that claim “I don’t rent video games” as an argument against subscriptions are ignorant. If you bought GW2, then yes, you’re renting it… your access has an expiration date on it, just like any subscription. It’s just longer (which goes back to the value argument.)

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Subscription-based Guild Wars 2

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What is stated here in this post is the current Subscription Myth. Sadly, followers of this myth are renting the games they play and paying high fees while doing so.

In short, no. I would not pay a subscription for GW2 or any other game. I am not a fool.

God, this mentality reeks of self-righteousness. This entire Sub vs F2P argument is reminiscent of the console war. It’s not enough for F2P crowd just to say they don’t like subs, they feel the need to take their zealotry so much further, wanting you to believe companies that charge a subscription are unethical, scamming, profiteers and anyone paying a sub is a complete fool.

You pay a subscription for a continuing service. If that service isn’t worth the price, then you don’t pay it. The analogy of comparing a sub to “renting” a game is silly beyond belief. That argument would only hold water if the game was static and there was never any value added. (Also, you do realize that you’re “renting” GW2 right? You just paid for it up front, instead of over time.)

And that’s the whole point of a sub—the value added over time. For GW2 (which is a great game) the value added is minimal and, rightfully so, they don’t charge for it. For other games, the value added is much more… and so you, the consumer, need to decide if it’s worth the charge. It’s a simple decision, requiring absolutely no need for outrage, insecurities or insults to be let loose.

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