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Actually, one of the worst things about this, is that all the folks who have been so angry about linking that they were not playing WvW during this time, where never given any notice or opportunity to vote.
So, the people who hated this the most were excluded from the polling. Talk about a fixed vote.
Also, please word the poll more straightforwardly. I read this incorrectly and voted incorrectly.
It should read simply
Do you want to keep world linking?
Yes
No
Simple and straightforward.
Plus your majority is messed up. What if you don’t get 75 percent either way?
This is exactly what someone does when they are trying to control the outcome and still be able to say “hey we had a poll”
I will say right now, THIS IS NOT A POLL and the results are already invalidated by the approach. I am INCREDIBLY disappointed in the backhand approach to this.
WHY has this poll not been announced? I think you should remove the results and start it OVER with full knowledge of the whole player base. Plus was this separated between NA and EU?
I feel VERY strongly like this is a setup.
As we get further into the beta, I thought I would like to report on the current state as viewed from a lower tier server.
1. We are seeing more of our folks who are refusing to play in WvW.
2. We are seeing some increased strain on those who do want to play. We cannot group up and play together due to the queues. We are lucky if we can get half of our group into the same map during prime time (8:00 p.m. – 11:00 p.m. eastern time) We are badly outnumbered to begin with as our guilds are smaller, and many people are not playing wvw due to the changes, so only having half our numbers makes us extremely vulnerable.
3. It is harder to recruit and harder to solicit funds for our website and teamspeak server.
4. Our guild is seeing folks drop into inactivity again after we had worked very hard to re-engage our members. Eredon Terrace had worked hard to rebuild itself and was doing so successfully. Its difficult to tell where we stand as a community at this point, but I would bet we have far less folks in WvW. Even some of our members who would only play WvW are simply not showing up now.
In short, all of the objections the lower tier servers expressed from the very beginning are very real concerns. They are not abating or resolving. Instead of balancing anything, I think this is simply killing the lower tier servers and the overall GW2 community is going to find this is going to accelerate the decreases in actual players which is what is causing this issue to begin with. This is not a solution.
Thank you for listening.
NA/Tier8/Eredon Terrace/Guest(sub)server currently linked with: Blackgate
Hello Everyone,
Last night I had the pleasure of speaking with an ArenaNet employee (on a boarderland wearing the ArenaNet tag), regarding concerns that ET has expressed on this and other forums about the beta population linking. We had a good conversation and I thank Hamm for taking the time to talk to us.
After we were done and as I was thinking about the conversation, I had some thoughts that I wanted to pass along to to the folks who are posting and reading this forum.
1. ArenaNet is paying attention. I strongly urge you continue to post on this forum. I also ask that you keep it positive and focused on addressing making things better.
2. One thing that might help is if you identify your situation (as I have at the start of this post) with if you are NA or EU, The tier you were in. Whether you are on a guest(sub) server and who you are linked with. This will give ArenaNet a better idea of who this has impacted the most and why we see things differently. The NA solution may end up looking different than the EU solution, for example, and it would be helpful is ArenaNet could see where you are.
3. I have spoken to a lot of folks and read so many posts that have great ideas and for the life of me, I could not think of them all last night. I think it would be VERY helpful to ArenaNet if you would have your best, brightest and most articulate folks post their thoughts on what a more productive approach to population balancing in WvW might look like. Maybe with the data, ideas and help from all of us, ArenaNet might be able to find something that is we could all live with happily. Which I do believe is their desire.
Two questions I think ArenaNet and all of us need to consider is does population balancing mean we need to all have exactly the same number of players, or is there there a way would could achieve a better population balance that still allows for some smaller (but more robust and not empty) servers to accommodate both sides of what is an obvious schism in how folks enjoy playing WvW? No one wants empty servers, they are not much fun. But not everyone wants servers that are so big everyone simply is a part of a huge collective rolling over other huge collectives on a map. And I believe there is truly a place for both.
The second is whether temporary server linking or permanent server mergers (with the hope that we will work out the population balancing issues first) would be the preferred method of putting the solutions into action?
Finally, ArenaNet, if there is anything I can do to help, please let me know. I love this silly game and my friends that I play it with. I understand that this is a tricky balancing act. Lets see what we can do when we work cooperatively.
Thank you all.
Hi Everyone,
I would like to clarify a couple of things. ET is not upset with Blackgate for any reason.
We simply feel that there are better ways to address the issues, then the approach taken by ANET atthis time.
We are upset (as I am sure any server would be if they were merged into ET and found themselves homeless suddenly “homeless.” Unable to even be a part of the system anymore.
Other than a few mocking comments while we were in Obsidian Sanctum last night (probably due to BG folks being upset that the queue was so bad, which isn’t our fault, but totally understandable), we have no idea what most players on Blackgate are like. So, Blackgate, I’m sure you are great folks who it would be a pleasure to get to know if it didn’t mean our identity was totally getting wiped out. Please do not take any of our comments as a personal affront. I feel badly that this has been misunderstood.
What we are upset about is that we are facing, the dissolution of our server, our community,.
We don’t know how long this Beta is going to last but here is our future as we know it right now.
1. We get moved and have to assimilate with a new server every 3 months. So we never get a chance to really belong to a community. We will have to maintain our own teamspeak and website, so that we don’t end up with nothing at some point. This will isolate us further from the servers we are “visiting.”
2. I am sure as we move from server to server we will lose people who are tired of being tossed around like leaves in the wind, until our guilds and our population is non-existent. Some will join the “host” servers but I’m hearing a lot of our folks seriously considering leaving the game. The loss of even MORE players is not going to help balance anything.
3. We will be forced into playing the way the “big” server that is “hosting” us feel we should play, to be polite if nothing else.
4. We will go from being leaders of our destiny (we seriously appreciate EVERY player on the small servers. We HAVE to, because we know how important having them is to our server! So, every member of ET is a big deal.) to small unimportant dots on a map where our presence is not important to anyone.
And I think that is what we are hearing the other smaller servers saying. This isn’t about Friday night queues, we could get used to that. Its not about our current “host” Its about who we are and how we enjoy playing the game. Yes, it may be different that what the developers intended, or how other servers enjoy playing the game, but that is part of what makes GW2 such an incredible game. There is room for all interests and play styles. This population beta for WvW narrows those choices. And that is a real shame.
I have been playing this game since pre-release on Eredon Terrace. In effect, by the changes you made tonight, you have taken our server away.
We had a great community and loved playing on our server. Now we don’t even have a borderland. In addition, you put us in a server that has so many people that we have been told there is no chance of getting in on reset night. You didn’t even make adjustments in how many people could be on a map. You did this without any input from us, without any warning and I feel your lack of allowing people who have been paying your salaries ANY input into something this important is a really incredibly bad business model.
I invite any developer who cares about this game, your customers, and who could consider the different modes of play to come that has grown out of the different server population sizes come and join us for a discussion of Eredon Terrace’s opinion of the changes. We would welcome you on our team speak to initiate a conversation.
There are better solutions to your population issues And since the server sizes are forcibly keeping your players from playing due to server OVER population, perhaps you should have considered going smaller NOT larger.
Please feel free to contact me should you care to discuss this further.
Thank you,
Ariel.6291
Friday night at the old time. I brought this up on at a server meeting last night and the overwhelming preference seemed to be Friday at the old time. I also think bringing back the old BL maps would help revitalize WvW.
So, you think you/your guild/your havoc group/your zerg busters, etc., are awesome. The opposition melts before you. Other servers quiver when they have to face you. But, is it you/your guild/your havoc group/your zerg busters, or is it just that you are on a server that regularly outnumbers your opposition? Are you good, or have you just found a server that makes “the other guys” easy pickings?
Find out – transfer to Eredon Terrace, a low population server with the heart of a lion. How will you do with us? Are you the best? Or just the MOST?
We have to fight harder for everything, so we are battle-tested. Our smaller zergs regularly destroy zergs twice our size and larger. We need people! It’s as simple as that. If you join us, you will be a big part of of our success, rather than just a small player on a highly populated server. Are you ready for that?
We meet every week on Friday evening (one hour before reset) on the Eredon Terrace TeamSpeak server. All ET residents are welcome to attend. All residents of ET also have access to our TeamSpeak server, all guilds get their own guild channels for use in WvW, PvP, and PvE, and all commanders use it to communicate with players and each other in WvW.
Eredon Terrace – The few, the proud, the brave!
Ursa Gwensdatter, The Forgers of Orr (TFoR) of Eredon Terrace