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End Game at 80?

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End game is a bullkitten term used by raiders to justify wanting more content. It’s too true. Gw2 is not a pve raiding game and if you purchased it for that reason just quit now. The way I see it Anet built this game around the sort of design League of legends and dota style games use. Their endgame is the same game you played when you first started, leveling just unlocks abilities, skills, and the like to improve your chsracter’s capability to perform in the already existing environment. I’m so pleased with Anet for going this route and not turning the game into a instance grind. The grind in gw2 is playing the game itself, more games should be built around this.

Thumbs up to this gentleman, he summarized everything I was going to say for me.

Its also a fantastic way to alienate a lot of players, and lose a lot of money and an excellent chance to overtake WoW as the most popular MMO out there.

I don’t mean this to sound harsh or offend anyone…

I think the best plan is to alienate them. There is no need to compete with WoW or try to beat it or anything… the games are just too different. If the only way to get those players to try GW2 is by turning it into GWoW, then they aren’t interested in changing games anyway.

I don’t like this idea of new games being forced to cater to the WoW crowd, using WoW-esque systems, with WoW-like reward patterns.

I can not stand playing WoW. It was ok for a while, but it was never really a -good- game in my opinion… rather just a popular one. I would love for GW2 to stay as far away from WoW as possible, which I think they’ve done pretty well.

You’re blinding yourself. This game is already not WoW. It’s surpassed WoW in the best way possible. The combat system. Adding in certain things that WoW and other MMOS have done well is not going to change that, or dilute what this game already has. It will only please more people, and make Arenanet more money. Which can only help the game grow.

End Game at 80?

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Posted by: Baarak.2486

Baarak.2486

End game is a bullkitten term used by raiders to justify wanting more content. It’s too true. Gw2 is not a pve raiding game and if you purchased it for that reason just quit now. The way I see it Anet built this game around the sort of design League of legends and dota style games use. Their endgame is the same game you played when you first started, leveling just unlocks abilities, skills, and the like to improve your chsracter’s capability to perform in the already existing environment. I’m so pleased with Anet for going this route and not turning the game into a instance grind. The grind in gw2 is playing the game itself, more games should be built around this.

Thumbs up to this gentleman, he summarized everything I was going to say for me.

Its also a fantastic way to alienate a lot of players, and lose a lot of money and an excellent chance to overtake WoW as the most popular MMO out there.

End Game at 80?

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Belcross just argued my point far more eloquently then I could have done. It’s not that I dont like Pvp, exploring, or DE’s I just also want there to be high end PvE as well.

Sky: If they changed systems this game would not be similar to Rift. Rift was just WoW with early DE’s and a confusing class system. GW2 would still have a great combat system, great pvp, great DE’s, and an excellent leveling system. It would add endgame PVE, that’s it.

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End Game at 80?

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the game doesnt feel rewarding enough at max level to keep me playiing for long, i like the game and it has potential but with no gear progression, raids or mounts i dont think i will be playing in 2 months (at least pve)

And lucky for you, I am certain WoW will still be around and available to you.

I get the preference, but I am so very happy that GW2 doesn’t follow the WoW model and instead provides a refuge for those gamers like me who despise the gear treadmill and boring “end-game” raids that end up being hours of waiting, prepping, and wipe recovery weighed against minutes of actual fighting time (most of which is spent doing the EXACT SAME THING as every other person who plays your class and/or role).

So we can both enjoy our games.

I don’t understand why this concept is mutually exclusive from the current game right now. It would be possible and perhaps necessary to implement high end PvE content. Most people playing this game instead of WoW are doing so for a reason. If GW2 had a similar PVE system to WoW, and kept what it has right now the game would appeal to everyone, and it would be phenomenal.

End Game at 80?

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I should preface this post with this: I understand the game has been out for only 10 days. I’ve really disliked the endgame so far. The pvp part of this game, is excellent. Sure there are some balancing issues but aside from that its been spectacular. End game PvE is nonexistent. Arah was really poorly done in my opinion. It was not difficult, or entertaining. The Zhaitan fight was very dull. I don’t understand why so many people playing this game are so quick to go after those of us who want to participate in end game PvE dungeons. Its an almost integral part of the MMO experience. As someone who wants to do both PVP and PVE this game is severely lacking in the latter area.

So you have 100% map completion then and have the explore sets from all the other dungeons? Thanks to scaling, your ‘endgame dungeons’ actually start at level 30, not 80. Sounds like plenty of content to me.

Why would I ever want to do that. The dungeons are dull and very easy. Do you mean 100% map completion in dungeons or in the world? I don’t really see that as a huge pull. Exploring is fun, but not as fun as dungeon diving and pvping.

End Game at 80?

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I should preface this post with this: I understand the game has been out for only 10 days. I’ve really disliked the endgame so far. The pvp part of this game, is excellent. Sure there are some balancing issues but aside from that its been spectacular. End game PvE is nonexistent. Arah was really poorly done in my opinion. It was not difficult, or entertaining. The Zhaitan fight was very dull. I don’t understand why so many people playing this game are so quick to go after those of us who want to participate in end game PvE dungeons. Its an almost integral part of the MMO experience. As someone who wants to do both PVP and PVE this game is severely lacking in the latter area.

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