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do what i do go 0/0/30/30/10. with altruistic healing, writ of merciful, writ of exaltation, and battle presence.
with pure cleric’s gear u have passive aoe heals from writ of merciful and battle presence. also everyone in the symbol gets nearly permanent protection and every pulse on allies of the protection heals u with AH. Its the best support build i’ve found for party pve like dungeons. Nearly invincible and keeps party up like a champ
Which is better for 0/0/30/30/10 shout Guardian with Altruistic Healing and Tome of Courage?
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I use double bows in both PvE and WvW … Have anything to say ?? huh?
uh yeah bows are garbage for pve. the damage output is awful. aoe damage is pitiful and single target damage has v irtually no place in pve
lol man you are really, really bad at math if you think the SB damage is awful (bad compared to other classes maybe).
And then we add in the wonderful trait known as Piercing Arrows, mix in about 40% crit chance or more and a fire sigil and all of a sudden I am hitting everything in 1200 range in front of me and procing flame blasts consistantly.
No aoe indeed.
But I guess it’s so hilariously awful that we were all being deeply ironic in the thread flipping kitten after they nerfed the SB fire rate.
You do realize ANET has said that melee damage will ALWAYS be better than ranged damage due to the risk reward thing right? The more you try to defend the whole “Oh my bow is awesome for damage!” Argument the more you look like an idiot…
thats so kittening stupid. Warriors and all melee characters got more than enough gap closers to catch up to any ranger/range profession in less than a second.
No wonder warrios and thiefs are noobstompers with Anet giving them so many gap closers and making them even more powerfulI know right? It’s not like when a melee ranger closes the gap with hornets sting + monarch leap that they stick to the target like glue due to having 2 leaps+ a cripple in their auto attack chains! Oh wait….
ya and crippling mud, signet of the hunt, lightning reflex, spider, canines, entangle, and all of the shortbow skills are complete garbage for CC’ing your opponent… oh wait….
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I use double bows in both PvE and WvW … Have anything to say ?? huh?
uh yeah bows are garbage for pve. the damage output is awful. aoe damage is pitiful and single target damage has v irtually no place in pve
lol man you are really, really bad at math if you think the SB damage is awful (bad compared to other classes maybe).
And then we add in the wonderful trait known as Piercing Arrows, mix in about 40% crit chance or more and a fire sigil and all of a sudden I am hitting everything in 1200 range in front of me and procing flame blasts consistantly.
No aoe indeed.
But I guess it’s so hilariously awful that we were all being deeply ironic in the thread flipping kitten after they nerfed the SB fire rate.
again short bow in pve is awful. try sword or GS and then we’ll chat
I use double bows in both PvE and WvW … Have anything to say ?? huh?
uh yeah bows are garbage for pve. the damage output is awful. aoe damage is pitiful and single target damage has v irtually no place in pve
lol a lot of complaint about ranger in these threads. tbh what i see is bads being bad
Can’t be any worse than people who make claims that the Ranger is fine and then never back them up.
I also suppose the entire GW2 minmax community somehow missed this phantom aspect of the Ranger and they are secretly super duper good instead of being the hilariously bad joke class that new people pick because the pet looks cool.
haha cracks me up. i wrote entire guides about pve and pvp builds i use and how awesome they are. but no one really cared instead just more threads about how bad ranger is so i deleted em. tired of trying
i have a lvl 80 ranger btw. ranger is amazing in pvp for conditions / fight control / lasting the fight just as dev said.
not only that its great in pve as the GS has an evade built in to it which is amazing for zerker rangers.
if you’re that bad w/ ranger i can send u my builds and u can try em out and miraculously realize how great ranger is. or you could try getting better
Zerker Ranger…
I don’t even think anything more needs to be said…
Oh I bet you’re a PvE bow user. You’re right. nothing more does need to be said
lol a lot of complaint about ranger in these threads. tbh what i see is bads being bad
Can’t be any worse than people who make claims that the Ranger is fine and then never back them up.
I also suppose the entire GW2 minmax community somehow missed this phantom aspect of the Ranger and they are secretly super duper good instead of being the hilariously bad joke class that new people pick because the pet looks cool.
haha cracks me up. i wrote entire guides about pve and pvp builds i use and how awesome they are. but no one really cared instead just more threads about how bad ranger is so i deleted em. tired of trying
i have a lvl 80 ranger btw. ranger is amazing in pvp for conditions / fight control / lasting the fight just as dev said.
not only that its great in pve as the GS has an evade built in to it which is amazing for zerker rangers.
if you’re that bad w/ ranger i can send u my builds and u can try em out and miraculously realize how great ranger is. or you could try getting better
please delete thread
My perfect patch:
- Bring ranger on par with other classes
quite descriptive
i wish WARHORN lower the COOLDOWN !!!!
- 10 sec
- 20 sec
lol AoE permanent fury from just warhorn. i’m sure they’ll go for that
On the last occasion I encountered with a thief (1v1). Literally, all of my skills were on cool down. He went invisible, my pet went useless (as always in WvW). In 4 (!) seconds time I was dead. He was on full health.
I mean.. yeah if all of your skills are on cool down you should’nt expect to win any fight against any other class playing as ANY class. Seems like you’re just mad you died rofl
I accept that trade-off of lacking burst potential for having a better toolbox of things I can do to survive while outputting consistent DPS. I can see the longbow as maybe being a bit spiky, but nowhere near what a D/D can do. Maybe a trap ranger can get a bit bursty if they hit all 3 traps at once on a glass cannon, but Ranger to me isn’t a burst class – it’s a sustain and survive class.
You can’t really avoid a ranger’s sustained damage, but you can mitigate nearly all of a thief’s burst with really fast reaction and smart play.
^^ so true
Everyone wants ranger to be a thief or a guardian. Rangers are rangers, and that’s it.
First I just gotta say all this talk about long bow in pvp is garbage. Long bow is completely and utter crap for both PvE and PvP.
For PVP, Shortbow & Sword / Dagger on Ranger is amazing. The amount of crippling / bleeding / poison you get is EXACTLY the type of gameplay Rob is talking about. You outlast your opponent by dictating range and unloading conditions on them. This was the same concept used in GW1. Nobody EVER played glass cannon ranger in GW1 PvP and nobody complained that you couldn’t….
Everyone here shouting burst is all you need in WvW are just regurgitating false info because if a world / team were playing all thiefs and no other classes, they would get rolled, BADLY.
Saying the ranger doesn’t excel at anything is completely false. The Ranger is #1 for dictating range, bleeding, and crippling, and entangled’s immobilization is amazing (AoE infinite # of target immobilization WITH huge bleed damage, ya easily best elite in the game for PvP).
Every encounter needs conditions, survivability, and the ability to outlast. Thats what Rangers do.
I think it really is just a poor public perception of the class because nobody here has really taken the time to see what ranger’s excel at .
Conditions, dictating range, bringing the fight close when possible for sword/dagger combo , and being able to run from fights with signet of the hunt and muddy terain (which btw I’ve saved countless lives doing). On top of that we have a 25% speed buff from Signet of the Hunt.
Yes, Ranger is THIS good. If you don’t think Ranger is good you need a reality check.
I’ll continue playing my ranger in WvW and owning theifs, warriors, and guardians and if you all continue to complain about ranger (which to me really seems like a portrayal of your inability to play the class well) then so be it. Maybe ranger will get a buff
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No, the reason the ranger isn’t wanted is because the ranger is a memememe kind of character. They offer nothing to the rest of the group outside of raw DPS, and anyone and their dog can do that. The ranger doesn’t excel at DPS. Other classes hit much harder and put on the hurt much faster. Sure, the ranger is hard to master, but even mastering it doesn’t make you a king. It makes you barely on par with mediocre players at every other class, save maybe thieves. Oh boy, all that extra work just to pull my own weight, where the same amount of mastery could make me more effective playing something else. And pets are way bugged, and that which is not bugged is very poorly implemented. F2 skills that miss more than half the time, other skills you can’t control, which also miss, extremely low hit point tables, inability to evade, terrible pathing, non-existent AI, I’m sorry, why do these make us good? The ranger pet is regarded more as a handicap than it is a tool. A reason to not allow us to put out the raw weapon DPS of classes like warriors while simultaneously dragging us further down with its unreliability. Still not master class. Not an ounce of potential there until Anet gets off their lazy keisters and makes some adjustments.
Well you must not have invested much time in tweaking traits/abilities/skills with ranger.
My ranger provides permanent party regen + great healing and condition removal w/ healing spring. I also provide permanent party fury.
On top of that I have the ability to have my pet tank instead of other players, or have it draw attention away if we are running past trash mobs. I also have the ability to provide might and swiftness 50% of the time.
All of this while doing great damage with GS or SS / warhorn and my pet HARDLY ever dies and i have 0 points in beastmastery. Pet never dies because he gets every boon I Get and my build is full of boons (protection, swiftness, might, fury, stability, etc.).
I might post my build so some people realize how useful the ranger is in PvE (and PvP).
The problem that most people are having (myself included) is taht ranger takes WAY longer to create a viable / good build whereas other classes take no time at all.
Post your build. It sounds interesting
Just posted a thread
No, the reason the ranger isn’t wanted is because the ranger is a memememe kind of character. They offer nothing to the rest of the group outside of raw DPS, and anyone and their dog can do that. The ranger doesn’t excel at DPS. Other classes hit much harder and put on the hurt much faster. Sure, the ranger is hard to master, but even mastering it doesn’t make you a king. It makes you barely on par with mediocre players at every other class, save maybe thieves. Oh boy, all that extra work just to pull my own weight, where the same amount of mastery could make me more effective playing something else. And pets are way bugged, and that which is not bugged is very poorly implemented. F2 skills that miss more than half the time, other skills you can’t control, which also miss, extremely low hit point tables, inability to evade, terrible pathing, non-existent AI, I’m sorry, why do these make us good? The ranger pet is regarded more as a handicap than it is a tool. A reason to not allow us to put out the raw weapon DPS of classes like warriors while simultaneously dragging us further down with its unreliability. Still not master class. Not an ounce of potential there until Anet gets off their lazy keisters and makes some adjustments.
Well you must not have invested much time in tweaking traits/abilities/skills with ranger.
My ranger provides permanent party regen + great healing and condition removal w/ healing spring. I also provide permanent party fury.
On top of that I have the ability to have my pet tank instead of other players, or have it draw attention away if we are running past trash mobs. I also have the ability to provide might and swiftness 50% of the time.
All of this while doing great damage with GS or SS / warhorn and my pet HARDLY ever dies and i have 0 points in beastmastery. Pet never dies because he gets every boon I Get and my build is full of boons (protection, swiftness, might, fury, stability, etc.).
I might post my build so some people realize how useful the ranger is in PvE (and PvP).
The problem that most people are having (myself included) is taht ranger takes WAY longer to create a viable / good build whereas other classes take no time at all.
Does the 6th rune bonus of “+5% damage with companion” apply when the pet is downed?
Thanks
Yes OMG please add trait profiles. GW1 customization was amazing. I HATE being FORCED to teleport to cities to talk to trait trainers and spend almost 10 minutes respec’ing traits.
Please bring back what made GW1 great.