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This is a specious response… at best. “generally from winning servers”. The real information we want is not how individual people transfering are, but filtering out the noise to find the signal. One only has to look at the Blackgate performance 2 days ago versus yesterday to realize that it is not about where the majority of people are transferring to and whether those servers are “winning”, but the number of wvw battles that are being impacted by blocks of people who play certain times transferring together. Blackgate wasn’t a “winning” server when the mass transfers happened. So yes… I am sure you aren’t lying about the statistic. But they are winning now by a large margin and THAT is the issue. Thank you for pretending not to see it.
I know it is common for developers and their forum mouthpieces to think their users are too stupid to notice logical fallacies in arguments… but this one is pretty glaring. To even attempt to make the argument that free transfers aren’t going to impact the top tier or 3 wvw battles is to completely ignore some pretty obvious evidence to the contrary…. and is sufficiently condescending that I would have stopped paying for this game if you had a monthly fee.
Most of the people I know have already stopped playing.
I’m not familiar with this situation at all. I’d simply like to point out a few things. You blast Colin for logical fallacies while providing nonsensical anecdotal “evidence” for your barely coherent point.
Colin was pointing out that the majority of transfers came off of high que time servers which tend to be winning servers. High que times correlate with wins and/or high tier status. He also pointed out that the destination servers tended to be low que time servers which tend to be losing and/or low tier status servers. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
I have to ask out of curiosity… if you don’t have the slightest clue what the situation I am referring to is, and that obviously causes you to not even remotely understand the point, why are you responding? I mean the obvious answer is “fanboi” but I figured I’d ask. I guarantee you Colin gets the point.
Here it is in short form for you:
allowing free server transfers, midweek, mid wvw “scoreboard” counting allows for people to freely flee to servers that are not necessarily winning and push them well ahead eventually causing anyone who wants to be competitive in scoreboard watching to eventually localize to a few well-covered servers. this will particularly be the case for concerted night time/early morning players transferring to otherwise competent realms who are already competitive in their current bracket (see: gate, black).
for your reference, blackgate went from being 20k behind after the first few days of the week to being 40k ahead in 1 day following a string of coordinated transfers from late nighters.
The last data I saw had an overwhelming majority of transfers from servers with long queu times (generally from winning servers), to servers with short queu times (generally to losing servers). There are some people going to the winning servers, but the simple truth is the vast majority are not.
That being said, we are working on long term improvements to queus, transfers, and WvW content in general. We’ll talk more about this in the future as features/plans get closed to being finalized.
This is a specious response… at best. “generally from winning servers”. The real information we want is not how individual people transfering are, but filtering out the noise to find the signal. One only has to look at the Blackgate performance 2 days ago versus yesterday to realize that it is not about where the majority of people are transferring to and whether those servers are “winning”, but the number of wvw battles that are being impacted by blocks of people who play certain times transferring together. Blackgate wasn’t a “winning” server when the mass transfers happened. So yes… I am sure you aren’t lying about the statistic. But they are winning now by a large margin and THAT is the issue. Thank you for pretending not to see it.
I know it is common for developers and their forum mouthpieces to think their users are too stupid to notice logical fallacies in arguments… but this one is pretty glaring. To even attempt to make the argument that free transfers aren’t going to impact the top tier or 3 wvw battles is to completely ignore some pretty obvious evidence to the contrary…. and is sufficiently condescending that I would have stopped paying for this game if you had a monthly fee.
Most of the people I know have already stopped playing.
