Shifting your sleep schedule for a night is easier than shifting your work schedule for the vast majority of people. Not saying it’s easy, or recommended, but it’s a hell of a lot easier to take a nap and wake up for a late night reset (or just stay up late) once a week than to skip the last (several) hour(s) of your work day for a video game once a week.
Someone else determines when you’re allowed to come and go at work for most people. That doesn’t apply to sleep. Unless you still have a bedtime.
Now since they are hopefully going to split the reset times this topic is getting kinda pointless, but for the sake of argument I’ll still respond to this, even though the overall tone has been shifted to more sensible one already.
So I agree that changing the reset time 2 hours earlier does help the hardcore players (in west/central Europe) to some extent to actually stay up for wee bit after the reset (to maybe 2-3 am so giving them time for the initial SM race etc). But like it’s been said casual people don’t really mess up their daily life in general for the game and most of the hardcores don’t either. We’re not talking about getting 2 hours more play we’re talking about people actually taking part in the reset at all. I personally go to sleep around 11-12 pm so I would have to stay up an extra 3-4 hours to see the reset and then add X hours to actually play at all during it. Like I’ve said I’ve never been in the reset as I live in GMT +2 so atm the reset happens at 3 am, so I don’t really know how many people have been there personally, but I’ve heard not too many. The issue might not affect the T1-3 servers that much since they have quite a few NA/SA guilds for coverage anyway.
We hope this split happens ASAP ofc, we’re not trying to screw you here you know. But it seems Anet does want to give us a slightly more sensible reset time for now after 8 months, so try to see if you can somehow manage with it until the change.
How does changing the reset time make any changes to the queues though? Wouldn’t the queues be there regardless if the reset was as it is or 2 hours later? I thought the issue would be that there wouldn’t be enough to actually play during the reset on US servers if everyone was in work? Everybody is now claiming that some unknown mass is going to take their place, make them queue for hours and nobody in the US is getting to wvw. As it was EU had pretty much nobody playing in wvw during reset so servers with NA guilds had a big advantage to PvD all night/morning.
Yay for EU arrogance and assuming this is all about NA. Ever hear of the continent to the South? You know South America? That big land mass that is not part of the US or NA. The same landmass getting screwed over by this change. My server has a large contingent of Chilean and other players from all over SA. Guess they won’t be affected by this because they aren’t in NA, nope. Really? Why don’t you complain about the US and NA some more. My server had queues within 5 minutes of reset and that was for all 3 Bl and EB. Before this change, anyone not in EDT had a chance to be online and avoid the queue. Now we cannot be in game and therefore will have to queue. That is the effect that 2 hours has on everyone outside of EDT. Did I make it without queueing every reset, no, of course no,t but at least I had the oppurtunity to try. Because of the EU whinig and ANET caving, that choise has now been taken from myself and everyone else in 75% of the landmass of NA and SA.
Now I don’t really follow why you try to avoid the issue by complaining that I didn’t mention South America (if you have any ounce of reason you can understand that I’m talking about the general time zone of NA which involves… well people living on those latitudes). But I was simply saying that the server will still have people from the server in the wvw areas right? Just maybe not the ones who have in past come straight from work to sit on the queue lottery during the reset.
Like I’ve said I haven’t personally ever been in the reset since for me it’s been 2-3 am so I can’t tell how wonderful magical thing you’re going to miss because of this, but somebody else is still going to get the spot regardless.
Most people work Monday-Friday. Obviously not everyone is going to be happy, but Saturday morning (even 2 am, I could just go to sleep and wvw in the morning when the queues were gone, not really an option at 6 pm) would beat the hell out of the middle of the work day on Friday for most people. And “most people” is who they should be trying to make happy.
Basically, NA’s issue with this (aside from the obvious “it kittens us over completely”) is this:
EU’s options before:
1. stay up until ungodly hours of the morning to play during reset
2. go to bed, play in the morning
NA’s options now:
1. Quit our jobs (not a real option for most)
2. Try to go to sleep at 6 pm to wake up in the morning and play then (also not a real option for most, not even a little tired at 6 pm)
3. Sit in queue for 4+ hours on anything but the lowest tiers, give up, and go to bed then.
4. Luck out, make it through the queue, and solo/follow a zerg because no one else you know got in.
Worst case scenario, you “missed” friday because you went to bed. We’re now going to miss Friday while sitting at our desks in the queue lottery banging our heads against the wall for 5 hours. NA might as well officially have a 5 and a half day WvW week now (No Friday at all, Thursday only counts as half a day because the match is usually already decided and there’s no one to fight)
How does changing the reset time make any changes to the queues though? Wouldn’t the queues be there regardless if the reset was as it is or 2 hours later? I thought the issue would be that there wouldn’t be enough to actually play during the reset on US servers if everyone was in work? Everybody is now claiming that some unknown mass is going to take their place, make them queue for hours and nobody in the US is getting to wvw. As it was EU had pretty much nobody playing in wvw during reset so servers with NA guilds had a big advantage to PvD all night/morning.
At least for me changing the time 2 hours earlier doesn’t change much. It was 3am so now 1 am I still rather just hit the sack before it usually, since the wvw opens at 20 minutes past reset or so. But since I’ve never seen the actual reset I guess this would make it possible…
But if there really can’t be seperate reset timers than somebody is gonna get shafted somehow always. Although I’m pretty sure there is a fix just that it’s gonna take a lot of work to get done. Just hope they realise this is a serious problem that needs to be dealt with instead of just wiping it under the rug for another 8 months…
Seem GH has given up, today we capped entire GH side of EB and held´ it for 2 hours, til FR decide to try and take WC, But Thanks for some good time, hope for more fighting later.
just me or those frenchies drop wonderful 4 rares and a exotic without MF on a few hours :P
We haven’t given up, but it seems less and less people are joining wvw. There was really nothing we could do against your numbers. I do agree, that I’ve recieved a lot more exotics/rares from FR in a week than from FSP ever!
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